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Car Crash: Who's Lying? (2018)
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This programme contains very strong language. For me, as the senior investigating officer that evening, I never envisaged that the case would unfold in such an unusual way. As I approached the car, you could see it had been in a catastrophic collision. It was overturned, and on top was a young lad, sat cross-legged. I've never had that before. He was clearly shaken. He said there was other people in the vehicle. He had identified himself as the driver. I asked him what his name was, he told me it was Dannylee. Danny, stand still, fella. Stand still, all right? It's not a problem, mate. We've just got to make sure you're OK, OK? Don't worry, don't worry. Everything will be good. We'll make sure everything's OK. I don't know, mate. I haven't had a look yet. You told me you were driving. You said, it's Dad's car. You said, it's Dad's car and you took the keys. So, how many were in the car with you, mate? Two others? You and two. What were their names? What are their names, Danny? I asked Dannylee for the names of the other persons in the car, and how many other people were in there. And he was flipping between two and three. It would be, "It's two. No, three." Remember your friends' names? DANNY MUMBLES INCOHERENTLY And that, for me, is very strange. It makes me wonder what's going through his head. You're provisional. No, I'm not going to arrest you. No, no, no. He was acting in a very emotional manner. Stay there a minute. I can't hug you because I don't know what injuries you've got. He couldn't clarify any accurate detail for me. All right, buddy. All right. He came across as being scared. Danny, I've got everyone with them, mate. I've got everyone with them. As far as we are aware, the driver's saying that there were three people within the vehicle including him. Including him. Yes. OK. Looking at the vehicle, immediately said, "Right, I'm going to have to get in there." I was faced with a casualty who was pretty much unresponsive, and I remember seeing a really large wound to the back of his head. That is so bad. Fuck! Let's go and walk down the road. So you don't see your mates. Come on. I shouted to the rest of the crew outside, "Look, he's going to have to come out now." I mean, "He will die in this vehicle, if he doesn't." Getting the second fellow out, there was a lot of blood coming from his head. I remember it all trickling down the side of my face. He was in a really bad way. I had to deal with him. I had to get him out. It's all right. No, no. They're coming out now, mate. Look, they're coming out now, so they'll look after him, won't they? Stand there for me. I've got to see him, please. You can't see him, mate. They're looking after him. I haven't attended a crash scene like that. You're thinking to yourself, "Is anyone really going to survive this?" They were just young lads. Can I just stop? Sorry. They were in the back seat. Both of them in back seat? Both of them were in the back seat. Yeah. I wonder why there was no-one in the front. Just for the log, two males have been brought from the vehicle. One of them, at this time, is breathing. However, the third male is currently having CPR. Fuck! Fuck. That night, I was at Sonny's with Sonny's sister. He was texting me all night, "Come out, mate. "Jump in the car." I was like, "No, mate," you know. "I'm going to stay in. Just chill out." And then he just went quiet. Didn't hear from him after that. I spoke to Luke at half-past eight, Saturday evening. He said to me that he was at his friend, Greg's. And I just thought, you know, "He's safe." Sometime while he was out, Dannylee showed up at the door asking where Luke was. I told him Luke had gone out to hang out with a mate, then they went on their way. At three in the morning, I was still at Sonny's house. All of a sudden, "Bam, bam, bam." I looked out the window, it was the Old Bill. So, I'm like, "Oh, crap, what's going on here?" I shouted upstairs, called Sonny's mum. They told me there and then that Sonny had had a serious crash. He's in the hospital. Got to the hospital, and it was then when it really hit me. They had to put him in a coma, and to see all these machines, bolts in his brain, couldn't breathe, he was on a respirator. He literally had a 50-50 chance of living. When I got there, I couldn't really look at Sonny. I never want to see anyone like that, and especially one of my mates. He always wanted to do something fun, like, enjoy himself. We just got along, that was it. That was probably the worst night of my life. Nothing prepares you for children to die before you. When a mother loses a child, or even thinks they're going to lose their child, it's a despair that you can't explain. Danny, you are under investigation at the moment, all right? Because you are suspected of driving whilst unfit to do so through drink or drugs. Do you consent to provide a specimen of blood which will be taken by a doctor? Yeah. Come to about three o'clock in the morning, I get a knock on the door. My first thought is, "OK, Luke is home really late "and I'm going to kill him." Put my dressing gown on, I go downstairs, open the door, two police officers standing there. About half-past three, my phone rang. I was actually away for the weekend, and it was my oldest son, Adam, and he told me that it was about Luke. I said to him, "What's he done?" And he said, "They need to come and see you." And it's really strange, the things that go through your head in a split second. It was silly things like, you know, he'd been caught camping illegally and was spending the night in the cells. In my head, I just went, "Let him spend the night there, "he will learn." I just had to tell her, over the phone, I had to tell her that Luke's dead. That's the hardest thing I've ever done. Dannylee, unfortunately, this is quite serious and you're going to have to listen to what I say, OK? I'm now arresting you on suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving, OK? I'm also further arresting you on causing death whilst driving whilst uninsured and unlicensed. If Dannylee said jump, Luke would be in the air saying, "How high?" Which wasn't often the case with Luke. He trusted Dannylee, as I did. He was welcomed in as part of the family. You put your trust in someone, and then, you know, it's just the wrong person. Unfortunately, things have gone a little bit wrong. The next day, the investigation's handed over to our team, the Serious Collision Investigation Unit. For us, it wasn't a unique investigation, or a unique set of circumstances. By far, the highest statistic for people that are killed or injured in crashes is young males. The more passengers you have in your car, the more likelihood is there's going to be a crash. This is the one that clearly shows the tree that's done the damage. The day after the crash, we were faced with one fatality, one seriously injured, and we had one in custody, Dannylee Ross-Barringer. I don't know if there's some pictures in there when they put it back on its wheels. I think they're probably here somewhere. On the face of it, it was quite a simple investigation. However, after he was arrested, Dannylee changed his account. He goes from saying that he was the driver of the car at the time of the crash to saying that it was his cousin, Zax Ross-Harris, who was driving the car at the time. However, there was no-one else at the scene. It was just two lads in the back of the car, and Dannylee. Nevertheless, the cousin was visited by police in the early hours of the morning. The good news is that, Zax, you're not one of the persons that's unconscious, so we've established that. He was in bed, he had no injuries. And you were with Dad tonight after work. You went to the... Harbour Lights, OK. He had an alibi for where he was at the time. We were faced with trying to work out what was going on. Why Danny changed his story we don't know. Whether it was to cover up for his own wrongdoing, to get himself out of trouble or was he just telling the truth? Whatever reason, it's a homicide, essentially, and we need to investigate that to the fullest. I found out the next day. Some of Luke's family came round, and they said he was gone. I was sitting there in shock for about an hour or so. I posted it to Facebook and let all of his friends know. I was out playing football with Greg's brother. We got this phone call from Greg's mum, and she said, "Get back quick." I was like, "Why is she saying that? "There must be something wrong." So, I was checking Facebook, saw RIP Luke. I was like, "What?" We literally just ran, and ran, and ran, until we got to the front door. It was just devastating. He was like a brother to us. I met Luke in school. There were some kids who were picking on me. And Luke stepped in to try and stop them, but it went downhill and we both got thrown into a bush. Luke was one of them people everyone knew in Paulsgrove, and everyone got along with him. His personality was phenomenal. He wasn't ashamed of who he was. MUSIC: All Of Me by Jasmine Thompson At college, he did drama and theatre art. He absolutely loved expressing himself. He said that he'd want to start on the stage, and then progress to film. And then he'd giggle and say, "Cos that's where the money is, Mum." He just brought everyone to life. Me, Greg, Danny and Luke were all close. We were really shy, and Dannylee, he had so much confidence. It did destroy us as a unit. We obviously lost all respect for Dannylee. We trusted him. We never thought he could do something like that. OK, your first name, is it Dannylee as in one name? Yes. OK. You've obviously been arrested last night on suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving. I was tasked to conduct the first interview with Dannylee. You all right? Whilst Danny had said his cousin was driving, there was a big part of me that thought, "He'll just admit to it." He was just going to want to get this dealt with and off his chest. So, just start, tell me all about yesterday and everything that happened. It's fair to say he was concerned about those people that were involved in the crash. Yeah, right, we can live with that. But my feelings at that time was, "Was this genuine remorse? "Was it guilt? Was it him trying to cover up his tracks?" It was all a bit difficult to work out where his emotions were at. In the interview, he maintained that account. "It wasn't me driving, it was Zax driving." Obviously, there are a number of times when you admit to being the driver. Everyone is different, aren't they? Everyone deals with things differently. I felt that Dannylee was lying. We had a lot of work to do, to prove that he was lying. So, we'll start with the car. What car is it? OK. Any concerns with the steering at all? He was clearly quite passionate about his car, the way he talked about it. As to whether he would let his cousin drive it, I don't know. Any more questions at the moment? Right, the time when I'm pressing stop is 19.08, and we'll turn the recorders off. Paulsgrove, everyone knows everyone. Sonny's mum, she was close to Dannylee's uncle. Dannylee and Sonny, they considered each other like family. Them two were like always into the same type of stuff, like, punk rock and things I would never do. But I guess that's when Sonny mostly come out of his shell, was around Dannylee. He wanted to be in with him. But he seemed all right, to be honest, Dannylee. But I think he thought he was a bit, you know, "Yeah, I've got a car, mate," flashy type of geezer. Dannylee's car was his prized possession. He wouldn't let no-one drive it. It was like his baby. It's like any guy, when you first get your first car, it's the best thing. Like, you've got freedom, you can do what you want. Everyone wants to take it out for a spin, like, "Let me jump in it, mate," you know? Usually, when people do that, it's like, go up the top of the hill and have a burger. The hill is a beautiful place. A lot of people love to go up there and see the view over Portsmouth. A lot of young people like to drive along the road and test their car's speed. What's the point in getting a car if you can't rag it about a bit, you know, have a bit of fun? It's dangerous, in a way, yeah. It's dangerous. But I think people think, like, "Enjoy yourself. "This is our time, we're young," you know? If Danny's account was true at that point, it meant Zax had run away from the scene, left two dying boys in the back of the car, and left his cousin Danny to take the rap for what ultimately he'd done. If Danny's account was true. If you could please state your name and date of birth. After the interview with Dannylee, we had a lot of questions we had to put to Zax. Whilst he did have some minor injuries, they were explainable. The purpose of the first interview was very much just to get a bit more detail about where he had been that evening. But also, it was quite important to get his reaction at that early stage as to what Dannylee had said. Zax gave the account that he had been at work all day, and then after work had gone to the pub with his dad. He certainly was the polar opposite to Danny. He wasn't upset, he wasn't emotional. The fact that he was so chilled, there's two ways to look at it. He just doesn't care, or the other option is, he knows he's not responsible and he's got nothing to worry about. When anyone young loses their life, it just has ripples throughout families, communities, but in a close-knit community like this, it really had a massive effect. Finding out they were out on bail, it was like, "What the fuck?" Sonny's still, you know, in a coma. I heard a lot of gossip going around on the street, sort of Danny is getting a lot of hatred thrown at him, him being called a murderer. Zax, people were starting on him. Everyone likes to get involved in a bit of drama, I guess. I couldn't go out and do my normal shopping. The fear of bumping into them, I didn't know what my reaction would be. There was loads of people talking about, "No, he was driving, no, he was driving." It was driving us insane. You want to blame someone in that situation. The whole time, I knew that one of them's lying, and one of them's telling the truth. It was torture. So, to corroborate Zax's account, we started off by just going back where he told us he'd been. We got statements from two bar staff at the pub where Zax had been drinking. They were able to remember him being in the pub. From the receipts, we could conclusively say they've consumed at least seven to eight pints. It was, in fact, the bar staff that called the taxi that took them to the kebab shop. We found the CCTV evidence of both Zax and his dad in the kebab shop. It's apparent that they're both drunk, but particularly Zax. And in his account, they went home, ate the food and went to bed. There was quite a lot of Zax's story that was corroborated by the evidence that we were gathering. It was just the timing wasn't quite right. In fact, they'd left some time earlier than he'd said. The one person that could tell us what was taking place inside that car, without any doubt, was Sonny. He's the only one that knew what went down that night. He knows what... ..what's gone on. And if he doesn't wake up, how are we going to know? And if he wakes up, is he going to remember? All them things that'll go through your mind. When I was sat next to his bed, I remember stroking his arm as gently as I could. I said, "Mummy's here, it's OK, darling. "I'm right next to you." He just looked like a little boy. Just laying there. Even though he was bigger than the hospital bed, he was a fragile little boy. They were trying to wean Sonny off the morphine to bring him out of the coma. They were worried. No-one really knew how his brain was going to be after he came out of the coma. But he came out the coma, so I screamed for the nurses. They didn't panic at all. They're used to it. I was the one that was like, "Oh, my God!" I stroked his hair, I told him it was OK. I just wanted my boy. As soon as he woke up, it was about Luke. As soon as his eyes opened up, "Mum, where's Laura? Laura's dead." See, he was so confused. What could you remember? Nothing, really. I just... Yeah... Just Luke. That's just the main thing that stuck in my head. Yeah... Sorry, I was miles away. Miles away. But as soon as I got up, that was one of the very first things I said, was about Laura. "Make sure that he's OK." It's all I was concerned about. Luke is Laura, an alter ego type thing. And, apparently, that's what I just kept saying to my mum. "Laura, is Laura OK? Is Laura dead?" Laura was Luke's female persona. He was really good at creating characters and just diving into them. Laura was a fun-loving girl. She just wanted to enjoy herself. At first it was a bit, "OK." But you know, he was just, he was very funny. I thought so, anyway. His confidence when he was Laura was just amazing. He wasn't afraid of who he was. We all loved him for it. On the night of the crash, we were at Greg's. Luke was dressed in men's clothes, but he was wearing the purple wig and make-up. We were writing stories online, and we'd had a few drinks. We were all having a laugh until Luke was invited to go out for a drive. Danny called him on Facebook. He asked us all to go out for a drive. We all said no. Luke said yes. We didn't want him to go, because we wanted him to stay with us. I just had a bad feeling. But he was insistent on going. In the end, I told Luke to have fun and I'd see him in the morning. I think it was about a month after I come out of hospital, if not a little bit longer, I then went and did the interview. Right, the videos are running. OK. I told them what I could remember. My job is to try and get an account from you about what you witnessed. Some of the stuff, I'd got answers to, some of the stuff, I didn't. Your account, your truthful account, is important. It all just gets a bit hazy. I can't remember what come before when, or anything like that. Do you remember seeing or hearing or feeling anything that may have been a reason why the car went out of control? I don't think I can remember an occasion when someone with a significant head injury has woken up and been able to remember anything, so it was a surprise, what he had to say. There were some vague parts, but his account was very much in line with what one of the other two lads had already told us. So, before the crash, before the accident happened, how was the driving at that point? He specifically remembered that Zax was driving the car at the time of the crash. Having said that, there was a big concern around the evidence that Sonny provided us. And the concern being, is Sonny going to try and protect Danny? So, Dannylee, how do you know him? Sonny and Dannylee were close, the wider families are close. If we were to talk about allegiances, then Sonny had a much greater allegiance to Danny, so I was sceptical, could this still be a fabricated account Danny has fed to Sonny? At what point did you remember what had happened? OK, so, literally as soon as you woke up? If I'm sat there thinking, this could be an attempt to frame Zax and get Danny out of trouble, then at a trial at a later date, it's certainly something a defence lawyer may try and suggest. Brilliant. Nothing else? OK. At this stage, I genuinely had no idea who was driving that car. And that's it. We'll get you home. During the investigation, we ended up in total seizing seven mobile phones. All seven phones were submitted for analysis. What that meant was, we could read through the text messages that were sent between both Zax and Danny on that night. Text conversation, it starts off with a text message from Dannylee's phone to Zax's phone. Zax's phone replies. Then it goes back, saying, "Do you fancy putting a tenner "in the car and coming out for a drive?" There's a bit of a gap, and then there's a message from Dannylee's phone. It was clear from the evidence that Zax had agreed to go out for a drive. One of the other enquiries that we made was in relation to the petrol station. So, the account given by Dannylee gave us the petrol station that they went to. We then got the CCTV. What that showed us is that the car driven by Dannylee arrives on the forecourt, and then we see two lads walk up to the petrol pump. And then a person walks towards the night kiosk. Quite clearly, that is Zax. So, after they filled up with petrol, Zax gets into the back of the car. We now have evidence that clearly disputes what we've been told by Zax. So, we know, at that point, Zax is in the car with Dannylee and Sonny. This was before they picked up Luke, so it's just the three of them in the car. But what the CCTV doesn't show is anyone other than Dannylee driving the car. And we still can't say whether Zax was even in the car when it crashed. We now know Zax has lied to us. You're now at that point where you think, I am going to prove which one of these two was driving. I am going to get an answer for the family. We are going to prosecute someone for this. We had exhausted witnesses, we had exhausted CCTV. I knew that it was going to come down to forensics. We had one chance left, which was around testing the seat belts for fibre-plastic fusion. When a vehicle hits something, it's had an accident, that energy of somebody being thrown against the seat belt, it's a bit like you having a rope pulled through your hands and the heat and the rope burn that you get. Well, that's what the seat belt does to the clothing. The energy transforms into heat, and then at that split second, it will melt the clothing. So, if we can find this melted material on the seat belts that could have originated from the jackets that they were wearing, we could identify who was driving that vehicle at the point of the accident. I was apprehensive about these sorts of tests. It's not something that has a particularly high success rate, and with forensic testing, there's always a long wait. It took a long time for them to sort the investigation. None of my questions seemed to be being answered. At the time, it was really difficult. Well, I'm his mum, I should know. You know, I'm allowed to know. And they were all, "No, you're not." It's really frustrating, really frustrating. And it was a lot of crying. Luke was the gel that seemed to make everything work, and he made our family work. There you go, sweetie. I thought it was Dannylee driving. What young man lets someone else drive their car? We were a long way into the investigation by the time we got all of the forensic evidence around the seat belts. As you're about to open the report, this is make or break, really. This is going to solve the investigation, or we're going to be in a position where we still don't know. Having read the report, it was a massive relief, massive relief. The front passenger seat had the fibre-plastic fusion - we could prove who was actually sat in that seat at the time of the accident. Also, we'd found about ten hairs, all with roots on, from the driver's seat belt. The laboratory reported back that, in their opinion, those would have been pulled from the head at the point of the impact. They went on to do DNA analysis, and that came back with a full profile. We made the decision to bring both cousins back in for interview. We needed to interview both of them, to challenge their account. But from the evidence we had established at that point, there was only really one main suspect. We knew who the driver was of that car. But he has to have the opportunity to see the evidence and make comment on it. There's also an element of, this might be the point he decides, "I'm going to admit to what I've done." The tactic for the interview was to bring the evidence in, one piece of evidence at the time. So, if he lied each time, we could just disprove what he was saying. Just to show, really, that the account he was giving was just not plausible. But you told me that you'd never been in the car, so... Eventually we got to the forensic evidence. He basically then closed down. The interview went exactly to plan, he couldn't explain anything away. We proved everything he said was a pack of lies. It ended with an aggressive, angry Zax. We have no idea how he got home or what route he took to get away from the scene, but we knew Zax was the driver on that night when the car came off the road. It turned out that Dannylee was telling the truth, and so was Sonny. Luke was such a laugh to have around. As soon as we got in the car, everyone was laughing and having a good time. Zax was proper, "Come on, cuz, let me drive. "Give me a driving lesson." As soon as they switched, it was a hell of a lot faster than what the speed limits were. Yeah, he was just laughing and joking around. "OK, cool, we'll go faster, we'll go faster." "No, we don't want to go faster." I genuinely thought he was either drunk, or on something because he was too hectic. Luke's seat belt didn't work properly, he was just kind of holding it in place. He should have... he should have slowed down. At the end of the day, I feel sorry for everyone in that car. Even Zax. You know, he's killed someone. He's got to live with that. Dannylee - you know, he's got to live with the fact that he's lost his best mate. He's got to live with the fact that he was the one who had the car. Sonny, I feel sorry for like, he's not the same, he's never going to be the same. I don't think I was this paranoid with people before my accident. I fly off the handle a hell of a lot more than I used to. It's like something small will happen, or something will slightly change, and it will just completely do my head in and I won't be able to cope with it. I felt bad towards Dannylee in the beginning, I felt that he felt too guilty over it. I can't really have that much of an issue with him if he's holding his hands up to what he's done. But with Zax, I really could not give a damn. He wasn't man enough to hold his hands up and admit what he's done. I blame Dannylee as much as I blame Zax for Luke's death. In some ways a little bit more. Had it not been for Dannylee, Luke wouldn't have been in the car. It just goes through your head, "Why Luke?" You know, "Why was it Luke that was killed, and not the driver or, "you know, the front seat passenger, why was it him?" I know it's selfish, but it does go through your head. Luke was innocent... ..and it's not fair. # You can't cry # Put your glad rags on and let's sing along # To that lonely song # You're the train that crashed my heart # You're the glitter in the dark # Oh, Laura # You're more than a superstar. # |
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