They'd better not push me on him,
or I'll just kick them
in the teeth on it.
Well, I think, if they...
Internal Revenue people that are kicking
Billy Graham around is Rosenberg.
He is to be out.
I don't give a goddamn
what the story is.
He went on television.
I have not. I've
already ordered Connally,
we're going after the Chandlers,
every one individually, collectively,
their income taxes
are starting this week.
Every one of those sons of bitches.
Well, this is something that
we can really hang Teddy or...
Yeah.
or the Kennedy clan with.
I'm gonna want to put
that in Colson's hands.
And we're gonna want to run with it.
A controversial day in politics.
A man arrested trying to bug the offices
of the Democratic National
Committee in Washington
turns out to be an employee
of President Richard Nixon's
re-election campaign committee.
He is one of five persons
surprised and arrested yesterday
inside the headquarters of the
Democratic National Committee
in Washington.
And guess what else he is.
A consultant of
President Richard Nixon's
re-election campaign committee.
The trial started today
at the federal courthouse
for the five burglars
caught breaking into
the Democratic National
Party headquarters.
Stand by for camera.
John Dean, the ex-White
House Counsel, testified today
that President Nixon knew
about the Watergate cover-up.
At one point in the conversation,
I recall the President telling me
to keep a good list of the
press people giving us trouble
because we will make life difficult
for them after the election.
Dean read through a 245-page statement
characterizing a president
who was easily outraged
over war protesters and
political adversaries,
and outlining a range of offenses,
including wiretapping of newsmen,
a Charles Colson plan to firebomb
and burglarize the
Brookings Institution,
and spying on Senator
Kennedy and other Democrats.
The misuse of power is the
very essence of tyranny.
And consider, if you will,
the frightening implications
of that for a free society.
The President today accepted the
resignation of three of his closest aides.
Out is H.R. Haldeman, Chief of Staff.
Also quitting under
fire is John Ehrlichman.
Ehrlichman was a key political advisor.
Good morning. The Supreme Court
has just ruled on the tapes controversy,
and here is Carl Stern,
who has that ruling.
It is a unanimous decision,
Doug, eight to zero.
Justice Rehnquist took
no part in the decision
ordering the President of the
United States to turn over the tapes.
It's an eight-to-zero
unanimous opinion.
A White House aide told NBC News today
that impeachment of the President
by the full House of Representatives
now is a virtual certainty.
These are, with no serious doubt,
the last hours of the 37th
presidency of the United States.
This is indeed an historic day,
the only time a president
has ever resigned from office
in our nearly 200 years of history.
You see the White House
there, and in the White House,
in just a few moments now,
President Nixon will be
appearing before the people,
perhaps for the last time as
President of the United States.
Okay, that's five, four, three...
Good evening. This is the 37th time
I have spoken to you from this office
where so many decisions have been made
that have shaped the
history of our nation.
I remember exactly where I was.
My father called. The phone rang,
my father called and he said,
"Turn on the TV right now.
Richard Nixon's going down."
I was at home with friends, and we
were watching television at home.
We stayed up and, like
everyone else, I'd been glued to
the Select and Judiciary Committee
hearings night after night.
And then finally, it had come to this.
Therefore, I shall resign the
presidency effective at noon tomorrow.
But instead of the satisfaction
I imagined I'd feel,
I just got angrier and angrier,
because there was no admission of guilt.
There was no apology.
Little did I know
that I would one day be part of the team
that would try and elicit that apology.
To leave office before
my term is completed
is abhorrent to every
instinct in my body.
I have never been a quitter.
And that that team would be led
by the most unlikely of white knights,
a man with no political
convictions whatsoever,
a man who, as far as I know, had
never even voted once in his life.
But he was a man who had one big
advantage over the rest of us.
He understood television.
And now, the host of
Frost Over Australia,
Mr. David Frost!
Thank you, thank you.
Hello. Good evening.
And with the eyes of the world
focused on the White House,
here in Australia,
burglars have broken into
a meat factory in Brisbane
and stolen a ton of pork sausages.
The Queensland police are looking
for men in a long, thin getaway car.
Now, my first guest tonight...
Well, we in the Nixon camp
really didn't know that
much about David Frost,
other than he was a
British talk show host
with something of a playboy reputation.
He'd had a talk show here in
the US that had won some awards
but hadn't syndicated well and
had been dropped by the network.
He ended up taking it down to Australia,
which is, I believe, where he
was when the President resigned.
Next week's guest will
be Evonne Goolagong.
We'll see you then. God bless.
Great show, David. Thanks, Noah.
Come and look at this.
Nixon leaving the White House.
A dark day for Richard
Nixon, who has drawn crowds
to the vast Ellipse south
of the White House before.
What, this is live? Yeah.
But those were triumphs. This is not.
What time is it in Washington?
Why didn't he wait?
It's 6:00 in the morning
on the West Coast.
Half his audience is still asleep.
All right, you blokes, let's
get the set broken down.
are witnesses to the saddest
day in the life of Richard Nixon,
his last moments as President
of the United States,
a moment unlike any other in
the history of this country.
Richard Nixon, who goes now
from the power of the presidency
to a form of exile in California.
Find out the numbers for
this, will you? Worldwide.
I remember his face.
Staring out the window.
Down below him, a liberal
America cheered, gloated.
Hippies, draft dodgers, dilettantes,
the same people who'd spit on
me when I got back from Vietnam.
They'd gotten rid of Richard
Nixon, their bogeyman.
So what's so important that it
couldn't wait, that it had to be today?
I've had an idea, John, rather
a bold idea for an interview.
Fish and chips, please.
And in a moment...
Well, it's too late now. It's done.
I've called his people...
You?
Beans, peas and lamb, please.
And made an offer.
Now, if the subject were to say yes,
well, he's rather a big fish
that swims in not-untricky waters.
So it goes without saying
that I'd want a dear friend
and the finest producer
I know by my side.
So who is it?
Richard Nixon.
Richard Nixon?
Well, come on, don't look like that.
Well, how would you expect me to look?
I spent yesterday evening watching
you interview the Bee Gees.
Weren't they terrific?
Come on, John, we've done
political interviews before.
So, okay, so what kind of interview?
A full, extensive look-back
over his life, his presidency.
And?
And what? Come on, David.
Surely the only thing
that would interest anyone
about Richard Nixon
would be a confession.
A full, no-holds-barred
confession.
Well, we'll get that, too.
From Richard Nixon?
Come on, John.
Just think of the numbers it would get.
Do you know how many people watched
his farewell speech in the White House?
Four hundred million.
But in the end, David heard nothing.
And soon after arriving in California,
Nixon was rushed to hospital
with an acute attack of phlebitis.
I think it was around
this time that Gerald Ford,
who was the new President,
and who was desperate to move
the agenda on from Watergate,
gave Nixon a full, free
and absolute pardon.
Now therefore, I, Gerald R. Ford,
President of the United States,
have granted, and by
these presents do grant,
a full, free and absolute pardon
unto Richard Nixon for all
offenses against the United States.
It meant that the man who had
committed the greatest felony
in American political history
would never stand trial.
It was like he slipped
out the back door.
A public opinion poll indicates
a two-to-one disapproval of
the pardoning of Richard Nixon.
One telegram from Virginia said,
"Roosevelt had his New Deal,
"Truman had his Fair Deal, now
Ford has his crooked deal. "
There was no deal, period.
I don't think the truth
will ever come out.
The American people
need to know the truth,
and I don't think it will
ever now be fully known.
So how do we want to
address the college protests?
Well, do we want to lift some quotes
from the "stand up and be
counted" speech in 1970?
Sir? You know, maybe
we're just better off
using the whole Lincoln Memorial memo.
Just include the whole thing.
Mr. President, Swifty Lazar is here.
Okay. No, no, stick around.
You're gonna get a kick out of this.
This is my literary
agent from Hollywood.
Hygiene obsessive.
Mr. President, good to see you.
Nice to see you.
These are folks helping me with my book.
Diane Sawyer, Frank
Gannon, Irving Lazar.
Nice to meet you. Miss Sawyer.
Pleasure. Mr. Gannon.
Okay, that's it. I'll
see you after lunch.
So how you feeling, sir?
I'm better, thank you. Though
not yet well enough to golf,
thank God. I despise that game.
Imagine, six weeks out of office
as President of the United States,
and they'd have me putting
in my hospital room.
Never retire, Mr. Lazar.
To me, the unhappiest people
of the world are retired.
No purpose.
What makes life mean
something is purpose.
A goal. A battle. A struggle.
Well, even if you don't win it.
When my doctor declared me unfit
to give testimony in
the Watergate trial,
everybody thought I'd be relieved.
Well, they were wrong.
That was the lowest I got.
Well, if it's a challenge you
want, here's one you might enjoy.
How to spend $2 million,
It's what I got for your memoirs.
Well, thank you.
Eh...
It might be a little
short of what I wanted,
but let me assure you, it's a
whole lot more than they wanted.
That book is important to me.
It's probably the only chance I'm
gonna get to put the record straight
and remind people the
Nixon years weren't all bad.
You know, if you're trying
to put the record straight,
I'd at least talk to him.
Who?
David Frost. English talk show guy.
Why would I want to talk to David Frost?
Well, a while back, he wrote
asking for an interview.
No.
Well, we didn't get back to him.
Frankly, we didn't find him appropriate.
Well, I thought that we
were doing one with CBS.
We are. I just figured
doing it with Frost
would be a whole lot easier
than doing it with Mike Wallace.
It would, but it would have a
lot less, you know, credibility.
True, true. Could
probably get more money.
Really? Look.
We'll always have 350
on the table from CBS.
But if I could get Frost to pay
more and secure better terms,
it might be a shame to pass.
It'd be interesting to
know where he is right now.
We tied him to railway
tracks, and he escaped.
We buried him alive, and he walked free.
Today we're lowering escape artist
Derek Harrison into the water
to see if he can miraculously
cheat death once more.
Good evening, and
welcome to Great Escapes.
My name is David Frost.
Okay, that is a cut.
Thank you.
In any deal, you need to know
your opponent's breaking point.
To assess that, you might call them
late at night or at the weekend.
If they take the call,
you know they're desperate.
And from that moment on, you
know you have the upper hand.
Hello?
Mr. Frost? Irving Lazar.
Who?
Swifty Lazar. I
represent President Nixon.
What time is it?
Bad time?
No! Not at all.
I'm calling with regard to
your request for an interview
and to say, having considered it,
my client is not necessarily
opposed to the idea.
Really? Well, that's terrific news!
For God's sake.
I got $500,000.
Is that good?
Mr. President, it's a half a
million dollars for a news interview.
It's unprecedented.
Yeah? Well, what's the catch?
With Frost? None.
It'll be a big wet kiss.
This guy'll be so grateful
to be getting it at all,
he'll pitch puffballs all night
and pay a half a million
dollars for the privilege.
Well, you think you could get 550?
I got 6.
David, how could you
have done that? What?
$600,000. That's a fortune.
Don't worry about the money.
My God. Most Americans
think he belongs in jail.
You're making him a rich man.
Plus, by outbidding them,
you've already made enemies
of the networks. They're just jealous.
They're already sounding off
about checkbook journalism.
And if the networks are against you,
syndication's always
going to be a struggle.
No syndication, no advance sales.
No advance sales, no commercials.
No commercials, no revenue.
And here's the bigger question,
why do it? You don't need it.
Your career's in great shape.
This will just spread you
across three continents,
jeopardize the other shows.
Isn't it true that
Channel Nine in Australia
want you to do another season
of your talk show for them?
Yes. And London, too?
Yes, but that would be
London and Australia.
This would be... What?
You wouldn't understand, John.
You were never part of
the show in New York,
but it's indescribable.
Success in America is
unlike success anywhere else.
And the emptiness when it's gone.
And the sickening thought
that it may never come back.
You know, there's a restaurant
in New York called Sardi's.
Ordinary mortals can't get a table.
John, the place was my canteen!
You know, I'd be happier
if I heard some kind of vision
that you had for this interview.
Excuse me, Mr. Frost.
I'd heard you were going to be here.
Would you mind? Of course.
But I don't. I just hear a man doing it
because it would create headlines
or give him a place at the top table.
And that is what makes me nervous.
And you do nervous so beautifully, John.
"Hello, good evening and welcome."
I don't actually say that.
Hello, Mr. Frost.
Champagne?
No, thank you.
Another glass, sir?
You don't like champagne?
Not on airplanes.
Yes, it dehydrates one terribly.
The trick is to have a glass
of water on the go, too.
Like the Viennese serve coffee.
Well, I've never been to Vienna.
Oh. Well, you'd like it.
It's like Paris without the French.
What's your name?
Caroline.
David.
Yes, I know. David Frost.
"Hello and good evening and welcome."
You know, I heard an interview
with you recently on the radio.
You were giving it from the
back of your Rolls-Royce.
Bentley.
On the phone.
They said that you were a person
who defined the age we live in.
Really? Mmm.
You and Vidal Sassoon.
But what made you
exceptional, they said,
was that you were a person
who had achieved great fame
without possessing any
discernible quality.
How kind. Mmm-hmm.
And that you fly around a great deal.
Well, that's true.
Why?
I like to keep busy.
Why?
I find it more interesting
than keeping still.
You know, you have very sad eyes.
Do I? Mmm.
Has anyone told you that before?
No.
Are you a sad person?
Let's talk about you a little bit.
Of course, you feel more
comfortable asking questions.
How right you are!
This is your captain speaking.
You may have noticed we've begun
our final descent into Los Angeles.
If you could please return to your
seats and fasten your seat belts,
we'll be landing very
shortly. Thank you.
So how about you? Where are you going?
To meet Richard Nixon.
Really?
You know, they say he has
the most enormous head,
but the sexiest voice.
Where is he now?
In some dark underground
cave licking his wounds?
Actually, no. In his
rather smart beachside villa
in California.
Really? Richard Nixon
in a beachside villa?
How incongruous.
You can come if you'd like.
To meet Nixon?
Why not?
Are you sure?
You know, I would love that.
Cabin crew, please prepare for arrival.
Well, I'll get my office to call
you first thing in the morning
and send a car with a phone.
Oh.
He did, too. Money no object.
Everything glittered and was golden.
Well, on the outside.
Of course, what I didn't
know was that in the meantime,
he'd gone to all the major networks
to try and get interest
in the interviews.
I'm sorry, David, but we have a policy
of not paying for a news interview.
Look, we love your
work as an entertainer.
That Guinness show?
Love it. You're a funny guy.
But an interview like this?
You're asking us to pay
a British talk show host
to interview an American president
with absolutely no editorial
controls whatsoever in return?
Well, you can't say it's
not a fresh approach.
I know you're very busy.
I'm not gonna keep you from it.
Thank you for coming in.
I'm gonna have to get back to you.
Okay, thank you so much for your time.
David, good luck.
He never let on to anyone at the time,
not even me. You know,
that would have meant...
Thanks.
... admitting failure, and
David doesn't do failure.
There you are.
See, you don't have
to do a thing yourself.
Well.
You found it okay.
Yes, thank you.
Pleasure to meet you, Mr. Frost.
And you, sir.
May I present Caroline Cushing?
Miss Cushing.
Hello. Your house is very beautiful.
Really. Very romantic.
Well, thank you.
And my producer, John Birt.
Nice to meet you. How do you do?
This is Mr. Lazar, and
this is Jack Brennan.
Now, Miss Cushing, would
you like to take a tour,
you know, maybe stretch your
legs after your long journey?
Yes, please. I'd love that. Thank you.
Come on in. This is my office.
Now, this is where Brezhnev
and I had our summit.
Yeah. Brezhnev was there, and
Gromyko there, Dobrynin there.
We talked for nine hours straight.
After the meeting, as
a souvenir of the visit,
I remember that we had
a Lincoln specially made.
Dark blue, cherry wood, leather.
Well, we got inside
for the photographers,
when the next thing you
know, he steps on the gas.
Now, the first rule of political life is
you never let a president get
behind the wheel of a car, ever.
I mean, we're not used to doing anything
for ourselves, let alone drive.
And the Chairman, Jesus,
the way he put his foot down,
my guess is the last thing he drove was
a tractor on some Ukrainian potato farm.
He crashed into curbs.
He went over speed bumps.
He went twice around my whole estate.
Finally, we ended up at some
remote point on the coast,
out there overlooking the sea.
He turns off the gas,
and he talks for two hours
about his favorite subject, steel mills.
He said, "Mr. President,
most politicians
"have tragedy in their early lives."
Well, I told him that I lost
two brothers to tuberculosis.
And he watched his father die from
the cancer he caught in the steelworks.
He was a sad man and a noble adversary.
I wouldn't want to be a Russian leader.
They never know when
they're being taped.
Okay, I guess that's it then, huh?
Until March. I look forward to it.
Well, thank you, Mr. President. So do I.
You know, it's a funny thing that
I've never been challenged
to a duel before.
I guess that's what this is.
Yeah, well, not really.
Of course it is.
And I like that.
No holds barred, eh? No holds barred.
Mr. Frost, there's still
the small matter of the...
Of course.
I do beg your pardon.
Right. $200,000.
I do hope that isn't coming
out of your own pocket.
Well, believe me, sir, I wish
my pockets were that deep.
Made out in the name of?
Irving Paul Lazar.
Richard M. Nixon.
Here you go.
Okay, smile.
There. Now you can put that
in your apartment in New York,
and all your liberal friends
can use it as a dartboard.
Well, actually, I'm living
in Monte Carlo at the moment.
Really?
Yes. Goodbye, Mr. President.
Hey. Take my advice.
You should marry that woman.
Yes. Lovely, isn't she?
More important than that,
she comes from Monaco.
They pay no taxes there.
Bye-bye. Goodbye.
I bet you it did.
What?
Come out of his own pocket.
You know, he couldn't
look me in the eye.
Well, I hear the networks aren't biting.
Without the networks, the ad
agencies don't want to know.
So if you ask me, there's a good chance
this whole thing may never happen.
Really? So that meeting we just
had might have cost him $200,000?
Correct.
Had I known that, I would
have offered him a cup of tea.
Say, did you notice his shoes?
No.
Italian. No laces. What do you think?
My people tried to get me
to wear a pair like that.
I think a man's shoes
should have laces, sir.
You do?
Yeah. Personally, I find those
Italian shoes very effeminate.
Yes, quite right.
I'm sorry, David, but it's a no.
Try to look at it
from our point of view.
Why would an American
network hire a total outsider,
and someone who's already had his
own show canceled, incidentally?
I see. Well, I'm sorry
you feel this way.
Obviously, I think you're
making a terrible mistake.
NBC.
Well, that's the
networks out, all of them.
Well, that's the end of that, then.
I'm sorry, David.
Not so fast.
Where's your adventurer's spirit?
The idea is we pay for the program
and syndicate it ourselves,
completely bypassing the networks.
Just imagine it, we'd be our
own network for the night.
Hey, Bob. How does that grab you?
Hey, come on in. David's on the phone.
No, never been done before.
Historic stuff.
Just think about it,
okay? And call me back.
Yeah? Yeah.
David, I'd like you to meet
Jim Reston and Bob Zelnick,
our two prospective corner men.
Delighted to meet you.
Come on in. Make yourselves at home.
Bob's been Washington correspondent
for Public Radio for the past 10 years.
Moving to ABC in the new year.
The general feeling, David,
is that I have been wasting
my matinee idol looks on radio.
Jim here teaches at the
University of North Carolina
and is writing a book about the
criminal dishonesty, corruption,
paranoia and abuses of
power of Richard Nixon.
Second on the subject.
Fourth.
Well, delighted to have you both aboard.
Actually, before I sign
on, I would like to hear
what you were hoping to
achieve with this interview.
What I want to achieve?
Yeah.
Jim, well, I've secured 12 taping days.
That's close to 30 hours
with the most compelling
and controversial politician
of our times.
Isn't that enough?
Well, not for me.
Look, I'd be giving up a year
of my life. I'm leaving my family
to work on a subject
matter that means more
than you can probably imagine,
and the idea of doing all that
without achieving what
I want to, personally,
would be unthinkable to me.
No, all right.
Well, what is it that
you want to achieve?
I'd like to give Richard
Nixon the trial he never had.
Of course, we'll be
asking difficult questions.
Difficult questions.
The man lost 21,000 Americans
and a million Indo-Chinese
during his administration.
He only escaped jail
because of Ford's pardon.
Yes, but equally, going after
him in some knee-jerk way,
you know, assuming he's a terrible guy,
wouldn't that only create more
sympathy for him than anything else?
You know...
Right now, I submit it's impossible
to feel anything close to
sympathy for Richard Nixon.
He devalued the presidency,
and he left the country
that elected him in trauma.
The American people need a
conviction, pure and simple.
The integrity of our political system,
of democracy as an idea,
entirely depends on it.
And if in years to
come, people look back
and say it was in this interview
that Richard Nixon exonerated himself,
that would be the worst crime of all.
Did you know that Mike Wallace
is doing a piece on this?
And that in the bars around
Capitol Hill and Georgetown
this entire project is a joke?
Come on. Jim, come on.
Thanks for that, Jim.
Could you give us a couple of minutes?
You're unbelievable. I'm sorry, Bob.
You know, Jim, I went
way out on a limb for you.
I mean, some of us
actually want this job.
I want it, too, if it's done right.
Well, how do you know
they're not gonna do it right?
Little Lord Fauntleroy in there?
Sympathy for Richard Nixon?
What the... He's full of shit, man!
How do you know that?
Is Mike Wallace doing a piece on this?
Apparently.
Why didn't you tell me?
It isn't relevant.
What's the angle?
"British talk show host,
"good with actresses, not so good
with stonewalling presidents."
That's the general idea, yeah.
Right.
It's hard not to feel a
little insulted by that.
Well, Bob's obviously a pro.
What are we gonna do about Reston?
Well, the man's an
idiot. He's overemotional.
Send him home.
Well, I think he should stay. Why?
I liked his passion.
He will drive us all bloody mad.
Well, maybe, but sometimes
being out of your comfort zone
is a good thing, I'm told.
He stays.
I took my seat next to Mrs.
Mao at the banquet table.
Now, one of the challenges
of life as a president
is the endless round of cocktail
parties, social engagements, banquets.
And people who know me would tell you
that small talk is not one of
my strong suits, either. No.
Particularly not in Mandarin.
So Mrs. Mao and I, we just, well,
you know, stared at one another.
And then across the table, Mrs.
Nixon and Chairman Mao himself, well,
they stared at one another, too.
And then further down, Dr. Kissinger
and their foreign minister, well,
you're getting the picture now.
I can't stand it, Jack!
Reducing the presidency to
a series of banal anecdotes.
I feel like a circus
animal doing tricks.
And I thought I made it clear!
I didn't want to take any
questions on Watergate, damn it!
Soon as it came to question time,
all those sons of bitches ever
want to hear about is Watergate!
It's as if all my other
achievements have ceased to exist.
Well, sir, you're gonna get a chance
to talk about them
sooner than you think.
Yeah? How?
Frost got there. He got the money.
What?
I understand most of it's borrowed,
that his friends have bailed him out.
But the point is, we start
taping at the end of March.
Really? Now, that's terrific.
How much time is devoted to Watergate?
What are the other three divided into?
Domestic Affairs, Foreign Policy,
and Nixon the Man.
"Nixon the Man"?
As opposed to what? Nixon the horse?
Well, I imagine it's some
kind of biographical piece.
I can see it now. The father that
neglected me, the brothers that died.
Spare me.
Still, now, the fact it's come
together, now, that's a good thing, no?
Mr. President, it's fantastic.
Frost is just not in your
intellectual class, sir.
You're gonna be able to dictate
terms, rebuild your reputation.
If this went well, if enough people
saw it, revised their opinion,
you could move back East way,
way earlier than we expected.
You think? I'm certain.
It would be so good to go
back to where the action is.
You know?
The hunger in my belly
is still there, Jack.
I guess it all boils
down to Watergate, huh?
Well, that's nothing
to worry about, sir.
It's not as if there's
gonna be any revelations.
That stuff's been combed
over a million times.
No one has pinned anything on you.
Yeah, still, it's been a while
since I spoke about it on the record.
I'm gonna start doing my homework.
Hey, you know what would be an
interesting thing to find out?
What his strategy is.
Now, where's he staying?
I believe The Beverly Hilton.
The Beverly Hilton, you say.
Well, I got the numbers someplace
of some fellows that we could send in.
Cubans with CIA training.
Jesus, Jack, it was a joke.
Yes, sir.
A week later, we said
goodbye to our families,
we hopped on a plane, and we
moved into The Beverly Hilton.
And that's where we started
to dig into our research
and prepare for the interviews.
Yeah, as it happens, we took
the whole question of
security very seriously.
And from day one, we kept all
our files in a locked safe.
Who was the guy that Mike
interviewed? Was that Haldeman?
Haldeman. Haldeman. And Ehrlichman, too.
I always get the Germans mixed up.
I'm a little confused by that.
What is Haldeman's
official... Hello, darling.
As for the work over the months,
we divided it into three sections.
Birt took Vietnam, Bob took
Foreign and Domestic Policy,
and I got Watergate
and the abuses of power.
And David, we never
really saw much of David.
All right, so what
about the Huston Plan?
You can see the seeds of dirty tricks.
Essentially, it's an attempt
to legalize dirty tricks.
That's why you gotta get David
to put it in the question.
Wiretapping students.
But they've traced the money to him.
Opening people's mail.
What about wiretapping?
How many people has he wiretapped?
This guy wiretapped 17 people.
Seventeen?
Including his own brother.
But you know what? We can't
ask him about his brother,
'cause frankly, if Donald
Nixon was my brother,
I'd wiretap him, too.
But wait, okay, so we
have breaking and entering.
We have wiretapping, conspiracy
to foster prostitution.
And that's Liddy, right?
Delivery courtesy of Nate 'n Al's
finest deli selection.
We're going to need napkins.
We'd better have some napkins.
How do we frame a
question about Cambodia,
about the illicit bombing of Cambodia?
I think you should say,
"How far do you take executive privilege
"before it becomes an
undemocratic event?"
I think you frame the
question to him as a Quaker.
"How do you feel as a Quaker about
annihilating an entire people?"
Come on. Are they really
interested in buying time?
Are they going to give us the money?
How serious are they?
You have to set up that he has
an anti-democratic personality.
There's a reason they
call him Tricky Dick.
Because I had written about
and watched Nixon for years,
I got to play him in our rehearsals.
You know, the fellas
would throw me a question,
and I would try and anticipate
what his response might be.
Okay, the White House taping system.
Ours is not the first
administration to use taping systems.
Lyndon Johnson's White House
used them. So did Kennedy's.
Huston Plan. Wiretapping
and alleged abuses of power.
Let me tell you, other
administrations were up to far worse.
And just for fun, your
close friend Jack Kennedy.
That man, he screwed
anything that moved,
fixed elections and
took us into Vietnam.
And the American people,
they loved him for it!
Whereas I, Richard Milhous Nixon,
worked around the clock in
their service, and they hated me!
Look. Look. Now I'm sweating.
Damn it! Damn it!
And Kennedy's so goddamn
handsome and blue-eyed!
And women all over him!
He screwed anything that
moved, and everything.
Had a go at Checkers once.
The poor little bitch
was never the same!
Gentlemen, finally a friend
in the American press.
Jack Anderson in The Washington Post,
"When Richard Nixon faces
the television cameras
"for his first interview since
he abandoned the White House,
"he'll be cross-examined as if
he were on the witness stand.
"Frost has hired three
crack investigators
"to help him with the research.
"Clearly the famous TV
interviewer will pull no punches."
"Crack investigators"?
Can I be Crack One?
Can I be Deep Crack?
David, can I talk to you for a sec?
After researching my last book,
I was pretty certain Colson...
You know, Charles Colson?
His darkest henchman?
Colson, right. Colson
had a meeting with Nixon
sometime before June 23,
but I never knew the exact date,
so I couldn't find the transcript.
But if you gave me a week back in
the Federal Courthouse library...
A week? Goodness, Jim, we
can't lose you for that long.
I think this is really good stuff, Dave.
Would there be something
I could help you with?
You know, if we're gonna nail
Nixon in these interviews,
we're gonna have to ambush him.
We're gonna have to
take him by surprise.
Don't worry, Jim. We'll get him anyway.
Hang on a second. David, Jack Brennan.
He sounds a little emotional.
I'll take it in here.
He'll be right with you. Yeah.
Jack. Watergate.
Yes, Jack.
Our lawyers want us to agree
on a definition of the word.
Well, I believe it's a large hotel
and office complex in Washington, Jack.
You know what I'm talking about.
For the interviews.
We want to propose that Watergate
be an umbrella term
for everything negative.
Hold on a minute.
So all the other domestic charges
against him, the Brookings Institute,
the Plumbers Union, the Enemies List,
you're saying all that
goes into Watergate?
Correct.
That is absurd and a clear breach
of the terms of our agreement.
Okay. How would you define Watergate?
Well, that it covers just that.
The Watergate break-in of June 17th
and the subsequent
cover-up and investigation.
Fine. In which case, the deal is off.
Fine. In which case,
you can expect a lawsuit
for something in excess of $20 million
in damages and loss of earnings.
The terms of the
contract clearly stipulate
that Watergate take up no
more than 25% of the time.
Yes, but nowhere does it say
that for the rest of the 75%
he gets to drone on
and sound presidential.
"Drone on"? Jesus Christ.
Where's your respect?
You remember who you're
talking about here.
You know as well as I do that 60%
of what he did in office was right,
and 30% may have been wrong, but
he thought it was right at the time.
Yes, but that still leaves 10%
where he was doing the
wrong thing and knew it.
You goddamn media
people. You are so smug.
Well, I can guarantee you
if you screw us on the 60%,
I will ruin you if it
takes the rest of my life.
Prick.
Look at you. Gorgeous.
Good night, sweet princes.
Cheerio. Bye.
See you in the morning.
Why the monkey suit?
David has a film premiere
he needs to attend.
What? The night before we start taping?
What's the movie?
It's The Slipper and the Rose.
The Cinderella movie?
Yeah. David's the executive producer.
You don't think it might be
an idea for our interviewer
to be rested and focused
on the job in hand?
Don't worry.
David is a performer
of the highest caliber.
He's been in these pressure
situations many times before.
Come the hour, he'll be fine. Okay?
What did he say? Did he say "performer"?
Yeah. That's the word he used?
Yeah, he said "performer."
Not "journalist" or "interviewer"?
No. He said "performer."
Out of curiosity, where are
you at this moment? Psychically?
I am imagining the dust, the darkness,
the agony and the
unimaginable Ioneliness
of the wilderness I am
about to be dispatched to
by my Washington political colleagues.
So any opportunity you get, go right
to foreign policy, go right to Mao,
go right to Khrushchev.
Just go right!
You could do all day
on foreign policy, sir.
I disagree that the Mao
banquet story is stale.
Excuse me, sir. Something
I think you should see.
People love that story.
Why don't we save it for the book?
Yeah, right, come on.
David. Mr. Frost.
David, some people in
the media have suggested
that you're not the
right man for the job,
that you'll be too
soft on the President.
What will you do if he stonewalls you?
Well, I shall say so again and again.
But I should say right
now that I'm not expecting
his approach to be to stonewall.
I'm hoping that it'll be
that of a cascade of candor.
REPORTER 1. "A cascade of candor"?
From Richard Nixon?
You think that's what you'll get?
No, I just thought it was a
phrase that might appeal to you.
So what about the money?
That's a strange fellow.
Started life as a comic, you know.
Is that so? Mmm-hmm.
Almost married Diahann Carroll.
Who?
The singer.
Isn't she black?
Yes, sir.
Right here in the Frost
file, which we put together
as part of our general preparations.
Okay. Let's get back to work.
That's fact, this is fiction.
So now it's about The
Slipper and the Rose.
It's a cracker of a movie.
I hope you'll all
come and see it, and...
I shouldn't have ordered that coffee.
Just don't drink any more.
Good luck. Thank you.
I'll be thinking of you.
Dick. Wait.
For the record, I'm gonna
be starting with John's idea.
"Why didn't you burn the tapes?"
No. Fuck.
Please, God, no! You can't.
David, you can't do that.
It would be a disaster.
It would get us into Watergate
way ahead of the agreed time.
What is the point of
having contractually set
specific times to deal
with certain subjects
if you're just going to
ignore it right off the bat?
'Cause it's war, isn't it? Gloves off.
I like it. It's ballsy.
Strategically, it'll
give us the upper hand.
It's insanely risky.
He could walk right off the set,
and there's nothing
we could do about it.
Worse, he could sue you!
We were sadly unable to do
the taping at Casa Pacifica
because of the Coast
Guard radio interference,
so we ended up at the rather
more modest Smith house,
which was owned by a local
Republican businessman.
Right here!
Mr. Frost, look over here.
Over here, sir!
Here we go. Back up behind the curb.
A few questions, please.
Right here, Mr. Frost.
David! David! David!
Well, hello there.
Excuse me, fellas.
Nixon, there's blood on your hands!
Liar!
Here comes the President!
Mr. President!
Mr. President!
How are you feeling, Mr. President?
The Smith family requested that
the furniture be put back in place.
They talked to you about that, too?
They're bugging everybody.
You know, I've written
four books about him,
but this is the first time I've
actually seen him in the flesh.
He's taller than I imagined, and tanned.
The least he could do is look ravaged.
You gonna shake his hand?
Am I gonna shake...
Are you kidding me?
After everything that
prick's done to this country?
I'm not gonna shake his hand.
Gentlemen.
May I present Bob Zelnick,
my executive editor?
How do you do?
Pleasure, Mr. President.
And Jim Reston, one of my researchers.
Pleasure to meet you, Mr. Reston.
Mr. President.
Excuse me, sir? Got a
room for you right here.
Wow. That was devastating, withering.
I mean, I don't think he's
ever gonna get over that.
Yeah, fuck off.
I got you guys set up back here.
Now this is your green room.
And the President will
be on the large monitor.
Craft services is that way.
Keep it about that temperature, okay?
Mr. President?
Yeah.
Before we start, I just want to say
how delighted we all are
by Mrs. Nixon's recovery.
Well, thank you. It's true.
She's much better now.
She's just getting round to the
business of replying to all the cards.
And from our point of view, well,
I'd just like to say how pleased we are
that you got this all together.
Thank you.
As I understand it, it's
been quite a struggle.
Well...
How much has it cost?
You mind me asking? Hey, come on.
Come on, it's just between us.
Very well. Two million.
Two million? Jeez. I didn't
realize we were making Ben-Hur.
But tell me something.
You raised it all now?
Not quite. But we're getting there.
Everyone's been kind and deferred fees.
Well, not quite everyone.
David, I'm gonna go
in with you on camera.
Excuse me.
I want to put a
handkerchief here, if I may.
Is that out of shot?
That's fine, Mr. President.
Contractually, I think that we made
an agreement that after each question
I might dab my upper
lip before answering it.
Which you won't show, you
know, when you cut it together.
You're probably aware of my
history with perspiration.
If you're referring to your TV
debate with Jack Kennedy in 1960.
They say that moisture on my
upper lip cost me the presidency.
People who heard it on the
radio, well, they thought I'd won.
But television and the close-up,
they create their own sets of meanings.
So now they insist I
bring a handkerchief
and that I have my eyebrows trimmed.
Sixty seconds, everyone.
You trim yours? No.
No, of course not.
Yeah, you're light-skinned. Yeah.
You got blue eyes. You've got no
troubles with perspiration, I imagine.
No, not that I'm aware.
You were obviously
born to be on the tube.
Stand by to roll tape in 30 seconds.
Settling.
Those shoes.
They're Italian, aren't they?
My shoes? I believe so.
Yeah, that's interesting.
You don't find them too effeminate?
No.
Well, I guess somebody in your field
can get away with them, you know.
Manolo, just check my collar, will you?
David, starting with camera two,
in four, three, two. Cue David. And...
Mr. President. Now, we're going
to be covering a lot of subjects
in a great deal of detail over
the course of these interviews,
but I'd like to begin
completely out of context
by asking you one question,
more than any other,
almost every American
and people all over the
world want me to ask.
Why didn't you burn the tapes?
Son of a bitch!
Well, Mr. Frost, I'm
surprised by your question
since we have an agreement, a
contractual agreement, I believe,
that we would cover Watergate
in our last taping session.
But if your viewers really
do have a major concern,
then perhaps I should
briefly respond to it now.
What probably very few people realize
is that the taping
system in the White House
was set up by my predecessor,
President Johnson,
partly to avoid the necessity of
having a secretary in every meeting,
and partly to ensure there was
a record kept of every verbal agreement,
no matter how off the cuff or casual.
Now, initially, on coming
into the White House,
I insisted on dismantling the system.
I hadn't liked the idea at
all, but the former President,
President Johnson, had repeatedly said
how crazy it would be
to remove the system,
which he felt was the best way...
Well, in boxing, you know,
there's always that first moment,
and you see it in the challenger's face.
It's that moment that he feels
the impact from the champ's first jab.
It's kind of a sickening
moment, when he realizes that
all those months of
pep talks and the hype,
the psyching yourself up,
had been delusional all along.
You could see it in Frost's face.
If he didn't know the caliber of the man
that he was up against
before the interview started,
he certainly knew it halfway
through the President's first answer.
You see, since the best advice is
almost always of the
confidential variety,
now the tapes have been made public,
people are unlikely
ever to feel comfortable
speaking in confidence
at the White House.
They're less likely to offer
that advice. So in the end,
it's the whole political system and,
by implication, it's
the country that suffers.
So much for our "ballsy" opening.
So when did you actually decide...
At what moment did you know
you were going to resign?
That's good. That's good.
I remember exactly. It was July 23.
After it was clear
the Southern Democrats
that were still against impeachment had
had the screws put on them
by the Speaker of the House.
That night I said to Al Haig, "Well,
that's it. There goes the presidency."
And, of course, you know, being Al,
he tried to talk me out of it.
And Vice President Ford,
I mean, let's not forget
he had the most to gain
personally from my stepping down,
he was still absolutely convinced that
we were gonna win the impeachment vote,
and comfortably. John,
we have to do something.
We have to move this along.
This is desperate, John. Do something.
Twenty-three minutes on one question?
Okay, let's take a break.
Let's change the tapes. Come on, man.
Stop tape.
I'm sorry, gentlemen.
We have to take a break. Tape change.
Oh. Okay, how's that?
You getting what you need?
It's fantastic.
Good. Good. Thank you.
Excuse me. One moment, sir.
Yeah, sure. Take your time.
What are you doing, David?
You've got to stop him rambling.
It's all right. These are
just introductory exchanges.
But this session only lasts two hours.
Nearly half of it's gone, and we're
wasting valuable material, okay?
The moment that he made
the decision to resign,
we should be scoring
points with that stuff.
Want me to switch to Vietnam?
No. No. We've got to get something
out of that resignation
night. All right?
That was Nixon at his lowest
point, a total wreck. On his knees?
Praying with Kissinger? Come on,
you can nail him with that stuff.
Listen, was that okay?
Perfect, sir.
It didn't sound too
arrogant or self-serving?
Not at all. You sounded controlled,
even-handed, statesmanlike.
Good.
Now continue exactly the same way.
Long answers. Control the space.
Don't let him in.
Okay, got you.
Set. And roll.
We're coming back on camera
three in four, three, two and...
Reading the account of those
extraordinary final days,
it seems your most emotional moment came
in that heart-to-heart you
had with Henry Kissinger.
Was that perhaps the most
emotional moment of your career?
Good, good. Yes.
I would say it was about as
emotional a moment as I've ever had.
Except, well, you know, it's hard to say
what is the most emotional moment,
because each is different.
I remember the day Eisenhower died.
For God's sake.
And the day I walked my eldest
daughter Tricia down the aisle.
And the day during the
impeachment hearings
when Julie, that's my youngest,
she came into my office,
she threw her arms around me, she
kissed me. She cried, you know?
And she so seldom cries.
She said, "Daddy, you're
the finest man I know. "
"Daddy, you're the finest man I know"?
"And whatever you do,
I will support you.
"You just gotta go through the
fire, you know, a little longer."
This is beautiful.
So Kissinger and I were in
the Lincoln Sitting Room,
and together we began to reminisce
about some of the great decisions
that we'd participated in.
There was China, the Soviet Union,
the peace settlement in Vietnam.
Now, let me tell you something
that I never told anybody.
Whenever I have had a really
tough decision to make...
Now, we were in the Lincoln
Sitting Room at that time.
I have come into this room
for the purpose of praying.
"Now, Henry, I'm a Quaker. You're a Jew.
"Neither of us is particularly orthodox,
"but I'd like to think that
each of us in our own way
"has a deep religious sensitivity.
"So if you don't mind, could we
just have a moment of silent prayer?"
So we knelt down. Now, this
was in front of that table where
Lincoln signed the
Emancipation Proclamation.
And then after a few moments, we
both got up again, and Henry says...
Is there... I'm sorry.
Is there a problem?
That's time.
We're over two hours.
Really? So soon?
Well, Mr. President, I
gather our time is up.
Gee, now, that's a pity.
You know, I was beginning to enjoy that.
That was terrific, both of you.
We're getting some great material.
You know, it's so funny, too,
because I was expecting
questions on Vietnam.
And we prepared for
that, hadn't we, Jack?
Yes, so did I.
I guess we just got caught
up, you know, reminiscing.
Indeed.
So, day after tomorrow, 10:00, right?
Yes, indeed.
I look forward to it. Bye-bye.
There's no need to say anything.
Mr. President! Mr. President!
Mr. President!
Mr. President, please!
What are you gonna tell him?
I'm gonna tell him
he's gotta get involved.
He's gotta be able to shut him up. Shh.
David, we have some fundamental
problems in our approach that I think...
Don't worry, Bob. I'm on it.
We can use some of the Kissinger stuff.
Yeah, but we need to discuss
it sooner rather than later...
Look, I'm disappointed, too.
But I wonder, could we possibly
spare the post-mortem for now?
I don't mean to minimize it. It's
just I've got to get back to LA
to meet some people from Weed Eater.
Thanks, everyone! Great work!
Marv, Lloyd, great day. Bye, David.
I'll see you soon. God bless!
What the hell is Weed Eater?
It's a horticultural mechanism.
One of our sponsors.
What happened to Xerox?
What about General Motors or IBM?
I gather that not all of the
blue-chip accounts came through.
We do have Alpo.
Dog food?
Wait, John. We're already taping.
So we're close, right? We're very close?
That's probably a question
you should ask David.
Are we close, John?
I believe we're at 30%.
To go? Or 30% sold?
Again, that's probably
a question you should...
Sold, 30% sold.
Jesus...
I thought we were
practically fully financed.
We were. But the financing was always
conditional on advertising sales,
and no one predicted that
they'd fall apart like this.
Well, why have they fallen
apart? Based on what?
Credibility of the project. What
else are advertising sales based on?
Listen, I understand your concern.
But could I ask you to go a little easier
on David over the next couple of days,
bearing in mind the extraordinary
pressure that he's under?
'Cause at the moment, he's effectively
paying for all this himself.
So he's in it for a lot more
than just his reputation.
And we're not?
You seemed very confident last time.
I don't understand. Why
this sudden change of heart?
All right, this is just
madness. It's Richard Nixon.
These interviews will do
mid-30s audience share, minimum.
Jimmy! Yes. Yes, back again,
like the proverbial bad penny.
Look, I hate to do this to a friend,
and I know you're already
in for more than I asked for,
but I need you to dig a little deeper.
I'm right up against it now.
So, I had a chance to
review yesterday's tapes.
And?
Honestly? Far too soft, David.
Go on. Beat me, John.
Beat me with a stick.
Look. No, I'm serious.
You have got to make it
more uncomfortable for him.
You can start by sitting
forward. You've gotta attack more.
If he starts tailing off, bang,
jump in with another question.
Don't trade generalizations.
Be specific.
And above all, don't let him give
these self-serving, 23-minute homilies.
Right. And keep your distance
before the tape starts running.
He was toying with you yesterday.
All that shit about Ben-Hur and
struggling to raise the money.
Those are mind games. Don't engage.
Never forget, you are in
there with a major operator.
Got it.
Ah.
The Grand Inquisitor!
No, just your friendly
neighborhood confidant.
It's okay. We just blew a bulb.
This is why I got all these
Secret Service guys around.
There's nothing to worry about.
As a president, you get
used to this kind of stuff.
Ed, we gotta get in here and
change out this 750, ASAP.
Focus, sir. Yeah.
Okay, we are back. Okay,
take it on my count.
Okay, stand by to roll tape. 30 seconds.
Settling.
You have a pleasant evening last night?
Yes, thank you.
Did you do any fornicating?
David, we're starting
with camera two in four,
three, two and...
Mr. President, you came
to office promising peace,
but no sooner did you
get into the White House
than US involvement in Vietnam
deepened and the war was prolonged
with calamitous consequences.
Did you feel that you'd betrayed
the people that had elected you?
Well, Vietnam was not my war.
It was my inheritance.
And it looked to me... Jump in.
...as if the reason for our being there
had perhaps not been adequately
understood by the American people.
It seemed to me they hadn't realized
how important a test this
was of American credibility.
The whole world was watching to see
if we have the character
to see it through.
Now, look, I could have
bugged out. I could have.
I could have blamed
it on my predecessors.
I could have pulled the
troops out of Vietnam early,
and very possibly, I would have won
some Scandinavian peace
prize into the bargain.
But I believed in the cause.
And sometimes, you know, what you
believe in, it's the harder path.
You might even say that I was the
last casualty of the Vietnam War.
Yeah, tell that to the paraplegics.
Come on, David, Cambodia.
And Cambodia? An invasion which
everybody advised you against.
All the CIA and Pentagon
intelligence suggested it would fail.
So why did you do it?
Well, first of all,
as a result of our incursion into
Cambodia, we picked up 22,000 rifles,
That's all belonging
to the North Vietnamese,
which would only otherwise
have been directed
right onto American soldiers.
But one of the principal justifications
you gave for the incursion
was the supposed existence of
the "headquarters of the entire Communist
military operation in South Vietnam,"
a sort of "bamboo Pentagon"
which proved not to exist at all.
No, no. Wait a minute there.
No, I was... And by sending...
And by sending B-52s to
carpet bomb a country,
wiping out whole civilian areas,
you end up radicalizing
a once moderate people,
uniting them in anti-American sentiment
and creating a monster
in the Khmer Rouge
that would lead to civil war...
All right!... and genocide.
Yes, good, good, good. There it is.
Okay, run VT.
Roll tape.
Well, sir, I'm sure you'd agree,
some pretty stirring images there.
Look, it was never US policy to kill
civilians. That's the enemy's way.
Well, I'm not suggesting...
And if you're asking the question
do I regret the casualties on both sides
in the war, yeah, sure, of course I do.
Let me tell you something.
It can just wear you down.
Well, all right, sir, when you
are faced with someone who...
But whenever I have had my doubts,
I remembered the construction
worker in Philadelphia,
because he came up to me
and he said, "Sir, I got only one
criticism of that Cambodia thing.
"If you'd gone in earlier,
"you might have captured the gun
"that killed my boy three months ago."
So you're asking me, do I
regret going into Cambodia?
No! I don't. You know what?
I wish I'd gone in sooner and harder.
Got him. Safe!
It was horrifying. It was
horrifying. And he was so confident.
What are you gonna say about Watergate?
Sorry, boys, just all
talked out, you know?
Better?
It was. Unquestionably better.
What's next?
Foreign policy.
Great. Russia, China,
the big power stuff.
Yeah, so?
So if he beats him up
like that on Vietnam,
imagine what he's gonna do
with his real achievements.
It ain't gonna be pretty.
The answer was grow by six inches.
It was agony to watch.
Now, that's when Khrushchev
called me, begging me to intervene.
You see, he and Mao didn't get along,
and Khrushchev knew that the Chairman
would talk to me, no one else.
You see, I was the only one that Mao
would trust personally, man-to-man.
When David tried to lay a finger on him,
Nixon made mincemeat out of him.
What "revolution," David?
You just let Richard Nixon claim
the country was in a
state of revolution?
What, with protestors "bombing"
and "assaulting" police officers?
That's not how I remember it.
What I remember is people protesting
peacefully and legitimately
against the Vietnam War!
That's what I remember.
Music off, please. Off.
By the end, wiretapping students
and breaking into journalists' homes
was beginning to sound
like a rational response.
Well, I'm sorry you feel this way,
but I simply cannot share your view.
About what exactly?
About any of it, frankly!
I thought today was a huge improvement.
Are you nuts?
Let me tell you how
bad things were today.
After the taping finished, I
overheard two members of the crew say
they never voted for him
when they had the chance,
but if he ran for office again
today, he'd get their support.
You're making him look
presidential, for Christ's sake!
And forget about the trivia, David.
Who cares whether Nixon took
the White House bed to Europe
when he traveled? I do!
Well, it's irrelevant!
And it's just the sort of banal
anecdote that would distract a talk...
A what?
Go on. No, say it.
What, you were gonna
say "talk show host"?
Yeah. Yeah, I was.
All right, look, it's useless
me trying to answer your points.
Frankly, I don't share any of
your sense of pessimism or alarm.
And this ridiculous self-flagellation,
in my view, is just depressing.
No!
And threatening to derail
the whole enterprise.
Look. If there is anyone here
who thinks we're gonna fail,
they better leave now,
or it'll infect everyone else.
No one?
Right.
Good.
Now, I suggest instead of festering
around the hotel for the next five days,
we all go our separate ways over Easter.
But before we go, Caroline
and I would like you
to join us for a little
celebratory dinner
at Patrick Terrail's new place.
Celebrate? Celebrate what, David?
The fact that we're all gonna
be working at Burger King?
What are we celebrating?
It's my birthday, Bob!
I'd like to celebrate my
birthday with a few friends.
Look, is that Neil Diamond?
Frost and Nixon, Frost and Nixon
And is that Sammy Cahn?
Go together like Prancer and Vixen
David, did you hear that?
Soaring through the airwaves
Jesus, that's Hugh Hefner.
Oh, my God.
Hoping for several hefty paydays
Yeah, I think it is. With Michael York.
That's gotta be Bunnies.
Those are Bunnies?
Those are real Bunnies?
Frost and Nixon, Frost and Nixon
Go together like Mason and Dixon
David, just putting it all together it's
the most extraordinary accomplishment.
Frost lines up with Dicky...
No one else could have done that.
And these interviews are always
gonna be around for future generations
of academics and political historians.
That bad?
He saved it
He wrote a book Now here's the hook
David!
Patrick.
He's not a crook He's paid by David
My, what a festive atmosphere.
Please, don't get up.
I take it from this that the
interviews have gone well?
Better than that, ma'am. It's a shutout.
The President's
sitting on an 11-0 lead.
Really? Well. Yeah.
Well, that is most gratifying.
I'm so glad it's all
gone according to plan.
I see.
Is there nothing we can do?
Really?
Right. Well, thanks for letting me know.
It's true. They've dropped
the Australian show.
Oh, no, David.
They felt that I needed to
reevaluate my priorities.
Now my producer's worried that
the London show will follow.
I'm in this for everything I've got,
and there's still no guarantee
it'll ever see the light of day.
What have I done? What was I
thinking? Why didn't anyone stop me?
They should have physically stopped me!
No, no, no. Shh.
Look, we don't have to go out
tonight. Why don't we stay in?
Hmm?
I'll go down to Trader Vic's
and bring something back.
Steak or fish?
David?
Don't worry. I'll call
from the restaurant.
I'll have a cheeseburger.
Mmm. That sounds good. I
used to love cheeseburgers,
but Dr. Lundgren made me give them up.
He switched me to cottage
cheese and pineapple instead.
He calls them my Hawaiian burgers,
but they don't taste
like burgers at all.
They taste like Styrofoam.
I hope I'm not disturbing.
No.
It's a Friday night.
You've probably got somebody
there whom you're entertaining.
No.
Well, then what are you doing?
A handsome young fellow,
an eligible young bachelor
alone on a Friday night.
If you must know, I'm
preparing for our final session.
The all-important final session.
Yes. Watergate.
'Cause I guess the way you
handle Watergate's gonna determine
whether these interviews
are a success or a failure.
Should I be nervous?
Well, I'm gonna give it my best shot.
Quite right. No holds
barred. No holds barred.
You know, it's strange.
Now, we have sat in chairs
opposite one another,
talking for hours,
it seems, days on end,
and yet I've hardly gotten to know you.
One of my people, as
part of the preparation
for this interview, she
did a profile on you.
And I'm sorry to say that I just
got around to reading it tonight.
There's some interesting stuff in there.
Your Methodist background,
the modest circumstances,
and then you're off to a grand
university full of richer, posher types.
What was it? Oxford?
Cambridge.
Did the snobs there
look down on you, too?
Of course they did. That's our
tragedy, isn't it, Mr. Frost?
No matter how high we get,
they still look down at us.
I really don't know what
you're talking about.
Yes, you do.
Now, come on. No matter how many awards
or column inches are written about you
or how high the elected office
is for me, it's still not enough.
We still feel like the little man,
the loser they told us
we were a hundred times.
The smart-asses at college,
the high-ups, the well-born,
the people whose respect we
really wanted, really craved.
And isn't that why we work so hard
now, why we fight for every inch,
scrambling our way up
in undignified fashion?
If we're honest for a minute, if we
reflect privately just for a moment,
if we allow ourselves a glimpse into
that shadowy place we call our soul,
isn't that why we're
here now? The two of us?
Looking for a way back into the sun,
into the limelight, back
onto the winner's podium.
Because we could feel it slipping away.
We were headed, both
of us, for the dirt!
A place the snobs always
told us that we'd end up.
Face in the dust.
Humiliated all the more for
having tried so pitifully hard.
Well, to hell with that!
We're not gonna let that
happen, either of us.
We're gonna show those bums.
We're gonna make them choke
on our continued success,
our continued headlines, our
continued awards and power and glory!
We are gonna make those
motherfuckers choke!
Am I right?
You are. Except only one of us can win.
Yes.
And I shall be your fiercest adversary.
I shall come at you
with everything I got,
because the limelight can
only shine on one of us.
And for the other,
it'll be the wilderness,
with nothing and no one for company
but those voices ringing in our head.
You can probably tell I've had a drink.
It's not too many. Just one or two.
But you believe me,
when the time comes, I'm gonna
be focused and ready for battle.
Good night, Mr. Frost.
Good night,
Mr. President.
So with or without
cheese? I brought burgers.
David?
I've got to work.
Well, who was the asshole that did?
Jesus, is that Liddy?
He must be a little nuts.
Yeah, he is.
I mean, he just isn't
well screwed on, is he?
Isn't that the problem?
Yeah, screw the Cabinet
and the rest of those.
But no more sucking around.
From now on, they come to me.
There is one thing that I want done,
and I don't want any argument about it.
I want you to direct the
most trusted person you have
in the Immigration Service
that they are to look over all the
activities at the Los Angeles Times.
AII, underlined. And they are
to send their teams in to see
whether they are violating
the wetback thing.
Is that clear? Yes, sir.
You open that scab, there's
a hell of a lot of things that
we just feel that it
would be very detrimental
to have this thing go any further.
Hello?
Jim, it's David.
Hey. What time is it?
How much longer are you
gonna be in D.C. for?
Tuesday. Till Tuesday.
Great. Well, you remember you mentioned
going to the Federal Courthouse library?
Honey, can you check on him, please?
Yes, for the Colson stuff?
Well, I've been doing a
little light reading this end,
and you remember that hunch
you had about the meeting
between Nixon and Colson?
Uh-huh. What are you thinking?
Hey. Hey.
Good morning.
And?
Excuse me, sir.
It's 8:30. Bob, have you seen David?
No. No Frost, no Reston.
Morning. Good morning.
Come on, let's go.
What's that about?
First time he's late.
Mr. President!
Morning.
Mr. President.
Mr. Frost.
Thirty seconds to tape roll!
Thirty seconds. Settling. Settle.
Well, if today's session is anything like
our phone call, it should be explosive.
What phone call?
The phone call to my hotel room.
David, starting on camera
three in four, three, two and...
Now, looking back on
your final year in office,
do you feel you ever obstructed justice
or were part of a conspiracy
to cover up or obstruct justice?
No.
And I'm interested that you used
the term "obstruction of justice."
Now, you perhaps have
not read the statute
with regard to the
obstruction of justice.
As it happens, I have.
You have, you say? Well, then, you'll
know it doesn't just require an act.
It requires a specific corrupt motive.
And in this case, I didn't
have a corrupt motive.
What I was doing was in the
interests of political containment.
Be that as it may,
the direct consequences
of your actions would have been
that two of the convicted burglars
would have escaped criminal prosecution.
Now, how can that not be a
cover-up or obstruction of justice?
Well, I think the
record shows, Mr. Frost,
that far from obstructing justice,
I was actively facilitating it.
When Pat Gray of the FBI
telephoned me, this was July 6,
I said, "Pat, you go right
ahead with your investigation."
That's hardly what you'd
call obstructing justice.
Well, that may be, but for
two weeks prior to July 6,
we now know that you were desperately
trying to contain or
block the investigation.
No, no. Hang on a
minute there. I wasn't...
No, no. Obstruction of justice
is obstruction of justice,
whether it's for a
minute or five minutes,
and it's no defense to
say that your plan failed.
I mean, if I try to rob a bank
and fail, that's no defense.
I still tried to rob the bank.
Will you just wait one
minute there, Mr. Frost?
There is no evidence of
any kind that I was...
Well, the reason there is no evidence
is because 18 and a half minutes
of the conversation with Bob
Haldeman from this June period
have mysteriously been erased.
That was an unfortunate oversight.
And Bob Haldeman is a rigorous
and a conscientious note taker.
His notes are there for all to see.
Well, we found something
rather better than his notes,
a conversation with Charles Colson,
which I don't think
has ever been published.
Okay, here we go.
It hasn't been published, you say?
No, but one of my researchers
found it in Washington
where it's available to anyone
who consults the records.
Well, I just wondered,
you know, if we'd seen it.
More than seen it, Mr. President.
You spoke the actual words.
Now, you've always claimed you first
learned of the break-in on June 23.
Yeah.
But this transcript of a
tape made three days earlier
clearly shows that to be a falsehood.
Now, in it you say to Colson,
"This whole investigation rests
"unless one of the seven begins to talk.
"That's the problem."
Well, what do we mean when we say
"one of the seven beginning to talk"?
Then moving on to a conversation
you had with John Dean
on March 21, the following year.
In one transcript alone,
there in black and white,
I picked out, and these are your words,
one, "You could get $1 million,
and you could get it in cash.
"I know where it could be gotten."
Two, "Your major guy to
keep under control is Hunt."
Three, "Don't we have to
handle the Hunt situation?"
Four, "Get the million bucks.
"It would seem to me
that would be worthwhile."
Five, "Don't you agree that you'd
better get the Hunt thing going?"
Six, "First you've got the Hunt problem.
"That ought to be handled."
Seven, "The money can be provided.
"Ehrlichman could provide
the way to deliver it."
Eight, "We've no choice with Hunt
"but the $120,000 or
whatever it is, right?"
Nine, "Christ, turn
over any cash we've got."
And I could go on. Now, it seems to me
that someone running a cover-up
couldn't have expressed it more
clearly than that, could they?
Look, let me just stop
you now right there,
because you're doing something here
which I am not doing, and I will not do
throughout these entire broadcasts.
You're quoting me out of context,
out of order. And I might add,
I have participated
in all these interviews
without a single note in front of me.
Well, it is your life, Mr. President.
Now, you've always maintained
that you knew nothing about
any of this until March 21.
But in February, your personal
lawyer came to Washington
to start the raising of $219,000
of hush money to be
paid to the burglars.
Now, do you seriously
expect us to believe
that you had no knowledge of that?
None. I believed the money
was for humanitarian purposes.
To help disadvantaged
people with their defenses.
Well, it was being delivered on the
tops of phone booths with aliases,
and at airports by
people with gloves on.
That's not normally the way
lawyers' fees are delivered, is it?
Look, I have made statements
to this effect before.
All that was Haldeman
and Ehrlichman's business.
I knew nothing. Okay, fine. Fine!
You made a conclusion there.
I stated my view, now let's move on.
Let's get on to the rest of it.
No, hold on. No, hold on.
No, I don't want to talk...
If Haldeman and Ehrlichman were
the ones really responsible,
when you subsequently
found out about it,
why didn't you call the
police and have them arrested?
Isn't that just a
cover-up of another kind?
Yeah, maybe I should have
done that. Maybe I should have.
Just called the feds into my office
and said, "Hey, there's the two men.
"Haul them down to the dock,
"fingerprint them and then
throw them in the can."
I'm not made that way.
These men, Haldeman, Ehrlichman,
I knew their families.
I knew them since they were just kids.
Yeah, but you know, politically,
the pressure on me to let them
go, that became overwhelming!
So I did it. I cut off one arm,
then I cut off the other,
and I'm not a good butcher!
And I have always maintained
what they were doing,
what we were all
doing, was not criminal.
Look, when you're in office,
you gotta do a lot of things
sometimes that are not always,
in the strictest sense of the
law, legal, but you do them
because they're in the greater
interests of the nation!
Right. Wait, just so
I understand correctly,
are you really saying
that in certain situations,
the President can decide whether it's
in the best interests of the nation
and then do something illegal?
I'm saying that when the President
does it, that means it's not illegal.
I'm sorry?
That's what I believe.
Oh, my God.
But I realize no one
else shares that view.
So, in that case, will you accept, then,
to clear the air once and for all,
that you were part of a cover-up
and that you did break the law?
Oh, my God, we got him. I...
Shit!
Okay, let's take a break there.
What the fuck is going on?
Cut it. Cut it.
Excuse me? Shut it down.
Shut it down now.
That's not my call. You're gonna
have to talk to the director.
He's in that truck out
there. Get him in here.
Listen, we have an issue in here.
Jack, what are you doing? A break?
Change the tapes.
David, can I talk to
you for a minute, please?
What the hell is going on, Jack?
He was about to blow and you know it.
Fellas, this is a critical
moment in his life.
You realize we could sue you for this?
You have deliberately
sabotaged the interview, Jack.
Look, we're all in this together.
I'm sure we can find a solution.
A solution? What the hell are you
talking about? It's an interview!
Bob, may I remind you...
This is a breach of
contract. We could sue.
For heaven's sake, Jim. Why
don't you give him a week off?
Give him a year off!
Give him a fucking massage!
Watch your language,
for crying out loud.
What'd you do? Throw in the towel, Jack?
Did you take pity on me?
Sir, I just felt that
if you were going to make some
kind of emotional disclosure,
that we should just take a moment
to think it through, sketch it out.
I just want to impress upon you
how crucially important this moment is
and how many potentially
devastating consequences
unplanned emotional
disclosures could have.
I know.
But to go on and carry
on denying it all...
I appreciate the gesture.
We ought to call it a snafu.
Jack, are we on?
We're on. Okay, he's had
plenty of time to cook up
some sort of slippery new
bullshit, so stay on your toes.
Listen, it's gonna be fine.
Pick up where you left off.
Thirty seconds, everyone.
Ten seconds.
David? Four, three, two, and...
Mr. President, we were talking about
the period March 21 to April 30,
and the mistakes you made,
and so on, and I was wondering
would you go further than "mistakes"?
The word that seems not enough
for people to understand.
Well, what word would you express?
My goodness.
All right.
Since you've asked me, I
think there are three things
that people would like to hear you say.
One, that there was
probably more than mistakes.
There was wrongdoing.
And, yes, it might
have been a crime, too.
Secondly, that "I did abuse
the power I had as President."
And thirdly, "I put the American people
"through two years of needless agony,
"and I apologize for that."
And I know how difficult it is
for anyone, especially you,
but I think the people need to hear it.
And I think that unless you say it,
you're going to be haunted
for the rest of your life.
Well, it's true. I made
mistakes, horrendous ones,
ones that were not
worthy of a president,
ones that did not meet
the standards of excellence
that I always dreamed of as a young boy.
But, if you remember,
it was a difficult time.
I was caught up in a five-front war
against a partisan media, a
partisan House of Congress,
a partisan Ervin Committee.
But, yes, I will admit there were times
I did not fully meet that responsibility
and I was involved in a
cover-up, as you call it.
And for all those mistakes
I have a very deep regret.
No one can know what it's
like to resign the presidency.
Now,
if you want me to get down
on the floor and grovel...
No! Never!
I still insist they were
mistakes of the heart.
They were not mistakes of the head.
But they were my mistakes.
I don't blame anybody.
I brought myself down.
I gave them a sword,
and they stuck it in,
and they twisted it with relish.
And I guess if I'd been in their
place, I'd have done the same thing.
And the American people?
I let them down.
I let down my friends.
I let down the country.
And worst of all,
I let down our system of government.
And the dreams of all those young people
that ought to get into government,
but now they think, "It's all
too corrupt," and the rest.
Yeah.
I let the American people down,
and I'm gonna have to
carry that burden with me
for the rest of my life.
My political life is over.
You know, the first and greatest
sin or deception of television
is that it simplifies, it diminishes,
great, complex ideas, tranches of time.
Whole careers become
reduced to a single snapshot.
At first, I couldn't understand why
Bob Zelnick was quite as euphoric
as he was after the interviews,
or why John Birt felt
moved to strip naked
and rush into the ocean to celebrate.
But that was before I really understood
the reductive power of the close-up.
Because David had
succeeded on that final day
in getting, for a fleeting moment,
what no investigative journalist,
no state prosecutor,
no judiciary committee
or political enemy had managed to get.
Richard Nixon's face,
swollen and ravaged by Ioneliness,
self-Ioathing and defeat.
The rest of the project and its
failings would not only be forgotten,
they would totally cease to exist.
Who came out on top, Mr. President?
Is this what you call a dachshund?
Mmm-hmm.
Very sweet.
The NixonlFrost interviews
were wildly successful.
I think they attracted the
largest audience for a news program
in the history of American television.
David was on the cover of Time
magazine and Newsweek magazine.
And even the political press corps,
the hard-bitten political press corps,
called David up with messages
of contrition and congratulation.
David, I want to say congratulations.
The interviews?
No, I didn't watch them. I couldn't.
Hey.
Hello.
I believe David saw the former
President just one more time.
Before he left California
for London again,
he drove down to San
Clemente to say goodbye.
Hey, Mr. Frost. It's nice to see you.
Miss Cushing. Hello.
Please excuse my golf outfit.
It's the official
uniform of the retired.
Are you on your way home?
Yes.
Into a bright new dawn of fresh
enterprises and challenges, eh?
Well, let's hope so.
Good for you.
I didn't catch the
interviews as they went out,
but they tell me that
they were a great success.
I gather the journalists
that were so positive
about you weren't so kind to me.
Yes, I was sorry to see that.
There's no condolences necessary.
I've grown to expect nothing
else from those sons of whores.
Yeah.
Jeez, please forgive me, Miss Cushing.
You know, I would've
said "sons of bitches,"
but Manolo here is a lover of dogs,
and he hates me to defame animals.
Can I get something for somebody?
Yes. Would you like
some tea or champagne?
Hey, you know, we got that
caviar the Shah of Iran sent me.
No, thank you. You sure?
Come on. It'll be no trouble at all.
No, really, we must be...
Okay, fine, fine. Thanks for coming by.
You were a worthy opponent.
Goodbye, Mr. President.
Bye-bye.
Goodbye, Mr. President.
Goodbye.
Oh, God! I almost forgot. I...
I brought you a present,
those shoes you admired.
I brought you a pair.
Well, jeez. Thank you.
I'm touched. Safe trip, now.
Oh! Say, David, you think I could speak
to you, privately, just for a minute?
Do you know those parties of yours?
The ones that I read
about in all the papers?
Do you actually enjoy those?
Of course.
You got no idea how
fortunate that makes you.
You know? Liking
people, and being liked.
Having that facility,
that lightness, that charm.
I don't have it. I never did.
It kind of makes you
wonder why I chose a life
that hinged on being liked.
I'm better suited to a life of thought,
debate, intellectual discipline.
Maybe we got it wrong.
Maybe you should have been a politician
and I the rigorous interviewer.
Maybe.
David.
Did I really call you that night?
Yes.
Did we discuss anything important?
Cheeseburgers.
Cheeseburgers?
Goodbye, sir.
Well, New York, London and Sydney
welcomed David back with open arms,
as did his friends and investors,
who've made a fortune
from these interviews.
He got back all of his shows.
He even got back his table at Sardi's.
As for Richard Nixon,
well, he certainly never achieved
the rehabilitation he
so desperately craved.
His most lasting legacy
is that today any political wrongdoing
is immediately given the suffix "gate."