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Give Me the Banjo (2011)
AMERICAN FOLK MUSIC,
BLUE GRASS AND COUNTRY PROUDLY CALL THE BLUE RIDGE MOUNTAINS HOME. NOT ONLY A SPOT ON THE MAP, BU AN EMOTIONAL TERRAIN AS WELL. YOU MAY WONDER WHY ME, AND WHY THE BANJO. I'M NOT A BANJO PLAYER MYSELF, BUT THE INSTRUMEN IS STILL CENTRAL TO MY OWN MUSICAL LINEAGE. OF COURSE MY FATHER, JOHNNY CASH, GREW UP HEARING THIS MUSIC IN ARKANSAS, AND THEN MARRIED INTO THE CARTER FAMILY, WHO GAVE BIRTH TO MODERN COUNTRY MUSIC. TONIGHT'S FILM, "GIVE ME THE BANJO," CELEBRATES THIS ART FORM IN ALL ITS SPLENDOR. A COMBINATION OF TRADITIONAL CELTIC SONGS MELDED WITH AN AFRICAN SLAVE BANJO HAS CREATED A SOUND AND A MOOD BOTH FOOT POUNDING AND HEART WRENCHING, AND HAS AN INFECTIOUSNESS AND A SPIRIT UNIQUELY AMERICAN. OUR FILM TONIGHT IS PRESENTED BY STEVE MARTIN, NO STRANGER HIMSELF TO THE LURES OF THE BANJO, AND AN ACCOMPLISHED PLAYER. PLUS, OF COURSE, SO MANY LEGENDS. EARL SCRUGGS, PETE SEEGER, BELA FLECK AND MORE. SO GET COMFY BECAUSE THERE'S GONNA BE A LO OF TOE TAPPING MUSIC AHEAD. ENJOY "GIVE ME THE BANJO,". THE SOUTHERN HUMANITIES MEDIA FUND. 507 INDIVIDUAL DONORS ON KICKSTARTER. INNOVATIVE FILMS, INC. THE TIDES FOUNDATION. MASSACHUSETTS HUMANITIES... AND OTHERS. A COMPLETE LIST IS AVAILABLE FROM PBS. [ APPLAUSE ] TO OPEN THE SHOW TONIGHT, WE WOULD LIKE TO PLAY OUR FIRST SONG. [ LAUGHTER ] SO, LET'S KICK IT OFF. 1, 2, 3, 4! I THINK PEOPLE ARE CONTINUALLY TRANSFIXED BY THE FIVE-STRING BANJO, IN SOME MYSTERIOUS WAY. THE BANJO REALLY HAS A COMPLICATED AND CHECKERED PAST. THE BANJO HAS ALWAYS COMPLICATED AND CHECKERED PAST. THE BANJO HAS ALWAYS SYMBOLIZED SOMETHING OTHER THE BANJO HAS ALWAYS SYMBOLIZED SOMETHING OTHER THAN JUST MUSIC IN OUR CULTURE. SYMBOLIZED SOMETHING OTHER THAN JUST MUSIC IN OUR CULTURE. EVERY TIME YOU PICK UP A BANJO, THAN JUST MUSIC IN OUR CULTURE. EVERY TIME YOU PICK UP A BANJO, IT'S GOING TO SYMBOLIZE EVERY TIME YOU PICK UP A BANJO, IT'S GOING TO SYMBOLIZE WILD, RURAL, SIMPLE, IT'S GOING TO SYMBOLIZE WILD, RURAL, SIMPLE, AND EVEN CLOWNISH. WILD, RURAL, SIMPLE, AND EVEN CLOWNISH. THE BANJO'S BEEN AND EVEN CLOWNISH. THE BANJO'S BEEN AN EMBLEM OF AMERICAN CULTURE. THE BANJO'S BEEN AN EMBLEM OF AMERICAN CULTURE. IT'S BEEN A... AN EMBLEM OF AMERICAN CULTURE. IT'S BEEN A... A STEREOTYPE IT'S BEEN A... A STEREOTYPE FROM ITS BEGINNING HERE. A STEREOTYPE FROM ITS BEGINNING HERE. IT WAS AN AFRICAN INSTRUMEN FROM ITS BEGINNING HERE. IT WAS AN AFRICAN INSTRUMEN WHEN IT CAME HERE. IT WAS AN AFRICAN INSTRUMEN WHEN IT CAME HERE. IT BECAME AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN WHEN IT CAME HERE. IT BECAME AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN INSTRUMENT HERE IT BECAME AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN INSTRUMENT HERE AND EVENTUALLY BEGAN INSTRUMENT HERE AND EVENTUALLY BEGAN BEING PLAYED AND EVENTUALLY BEGAN BEING PLAYED BY THE EUROPEAN-AMERICANS. BEING PLAYED BY THE EUROPEAN-AMERICANS. ONE OF THE GREAT DARK SECRETS BY THE EUROPEAN-AMERICANS. ONE OF THE GREAT DARK SECRETS OF THE BANJO IS THA ONE OF THE GREAT DARK SECRETS OF THE BANJO IS THA IT REALLY IS OF THE BANJO IS THA IT REALLY IS AN EMOTIONAL INSTRUMENT. "GIVE ME THE BANJO!" WROTE MARK TWAIN IN 1865, "WHEN YOU WANT GENUINE MUSIC, WROTE MARK TWAIN IN 1865, "WHEN YOU WANT GENUINE MUSIC, MUSIC THAT WILL COME RIGHT HOME "WHEN YOU WANT GENUINE MUSIC, MUSIC THAT WILL COME RIGHT HOME TO YOU, MUSIC THAT WILL COME RIGHT HOME TO YOU, SUFFUSE YOUR SYSTEM TO YOU, SUFFUSE YOUR SYSTEM LIKE STRYCHNINE WHISKEY, SUFFUSE YOUR SYSTEM LIKE STRYCHNINE WHISKEY, RAMIFY YOUR WHOLE CONSTITUTION LIKE STRYCHNINE WHISKEY, RAMIFY YOUR WHOLE CONSTITUTION LIKE THE MEASLES RAMIFY YOUR WHOLE CONSTITUTION LIKE THE MEASLES AND BREAK OUT ON YOUR HIDE LIKE THE MEASLES AND BREAK OUT ON YOUR HIDE LIKE PINFEATHER PIMPLES AND BREAK OUT ON YOUR HIDE LIKE PINFEATHER PIMPLES ON A PICKED GOOSE. LIKE PINFEATHER PIMPLES ON A PICKED GOOSE. WHEN YOU WANT ALL THIS, ON A PICKED GOOSE. WHEN YOU WANT ALL THIS, JUST SMASH YOUR PIANO WHEN YOU WANT ALL THIS, JUST SMASH YOUR PIANO AND INVOKE JUST SMASH YOUR PIANO AND INVOKE THE GLORY BEAMING BANJO!" [ CHEERING AND APPLAUSE ] [ BANJO PLAYING ] WE'RE GONNA PLAY FOR FISH. THAT'S RIGHT, WE'RE GONNA PLAY FOR THE HALIBUT (HELL-OF-IT). THAT'S RIGHT, WE'RE GONNA PLAY FOR THE HALIBUT (HELL-OF-IT). HERE'S AN OLD SONG FOR THE HALIBUT (HELL-OF-IT). HERE'S AN OLD SONG CALLED "CRIPPLE CREEK." IT WAS GOOD BEING HERE, KNOWING THAT THERE ARE OTHER BLACK PEOPLE KNOWING THAT THERE ARE OTHER BLACK PEOPLE WHO PLAY BANJO, PLAY AND STUDY OLD-TIME MUSIC. AND IT'S FUN JUST SEEING PEOPLE IN GENERAL, I DON'T CARE WHAT COLOR THEY ARE, TAKE AN INTEREST IN ANYTHING INVOLVING GOOD MUSIC. GOIN' ON THE RUN GOIN' UP T' CRIPPLE CREEK HAVE A LITTLE FUN YOU KNOW, IT'S A SMALL CLUB. IF THERE'S A HUNDRED BLACK BANJO PLAYERS IN THE WORLD, THAT'S A VERY SMALL MINORITY. AND IT WAS FUN TO SEE TWO DOZEN OF THEM. YOU KNOW, IT'S, OH, I'M NOT ALONE! GOIN' ON THE RUN GOIN' UP T' CRIPPLE CREEK HAVE A LITTLE FUN Martin: AMERICANS HAVE BEEN REDISCOVERING AND REINVENTING THE BANJO AND ITS MUSIC REDISCOVERING AND REINVENTING THE BANJO AND ITS MUSIC FOR TWO CENTURIES OR MORE. THE BANJO AND ITS MUSIC FOR TWO CENTURIES OR MORE. IN 2005 AND AGAIN IN 2010, FOR TWO CENTURIES OR MORE. IN 2005 AND AGAIN IN 2010, MUSICIANS AND SCHOLARS CAME IN 2005 AND AGAIN IN 2010, MUSICIANS AND SCHOLARS CAME TO BOONE, NORTH CAROLINA, MUSICIANS AND SCHOLARS CAME TO BOONE, NORTH CAROLINA, FOR THE BLACK BANJO GATHERING, TO BOONE, NORTH CAROLINA, FOR THE BLACK BANJO GATHERING, TO CELEBRATE THE BANJO'S FOR THE BLACK BANJO GATHERING, TO CELEBRATE THE BANJO'S AFRICAN, CARIBBEAN, TO CELEBRATE THE BANJO'S AFRICAN, CARIBBEAN, AND AFRICAN-AMERICAN ORIGINS. FOR SOME, LIKE RHIANNON GIDDENS, IT WAS A CHANCE TO RECLAIM A MUSICAL HERITAGE. Giddens: ALL THESE MUSICIANS ARE ALL HERE DOING THIS CONCER BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE IN THE MISSION, GETTING PEOPLE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT WHERE THIS INSTRUMEN COMES FROM, 'CAUSE THEY AIN' HERE FOR THE MONEY. THEY AIN'T HERE FOR THE GLORY. IS THAT BETTER? OH, PLAY IT! Giddens: THERE'S SO MUCH HISTORY IN THIS MUSIC THAT IS Giddens: THERE'S SO MUCH HISTORY IN THIS MUSIC THAT IS NOT IN PUBLIC VIEW. HISTORY IN THIS MUSIC THAT IS NOT IN PUBLIC VIEW. THE GOOD STUFF NOT IN PUBLIC VIEW. THE GOOD STUFF AND THE BAD STUFF. THE GOOD STUFF AND THE BAD STUFF. [ BLOWING KAZOO ] THE CULTURAL RICHNESS OF IT, THE HISTORICAL RICHNESS OF IT, AND THEN THE MUSIC ITSELF THE HISTORICAL RICHNESS OF IT, AND THEN THE MUSIC ITSELF FILLS A HOLE, AND THEN THE MUSIC ITSELF FILLS A HOLE, AND IF WE CAN GET CLOSER FILLS A HOLE, AND IF WE CAN GET CLOSER TO FILLING THAT HOLE, YOU KNOW, AND IF WE CAN GET CLOSER TO FILLING THAT HOLE, YOU KNOW, I THINK EVERYBODY IS TO FILLING THAT HOLE, YOU KNOW, I THINK EVERYBODY IS ENRICHED BY IT. I THINK EVERYBODY IS ENRICHED BY IT. DON'T GET TROUBLE ENRICHED BY IT. DON'T GET TROUBLE IN YOUR MIND DON'T GET TROUBLE IN YOUR MIND DON'T GET TROUBLE IN YOUR MIND DON'T GET TROUBLE IN YOUR MIND TROUBLE, TROUBLE TROUBLE IN MY MIND IF TROUBLE DON'T KILL ME TROUBLE IN MY MIND IF TROUBLE DON'T KILL ME I'M SURE I'LL LIVE FINE IF TROUBLE DON'T KILL ME I'M SURE I'LL LIVE FINE DON'T GET TROUBLE I'M SURE I'LL LIVE FINE DON'T GET TROUBLE IN YOUR MIND DON'T GET TROUBLE IN YOUR MIND DON'T GET TROUBLE IN YOUR MIND DON'T GET TROUBLE IN YOUR MIND DON'T GET TROUBLE IN YOUR MIND DON'T GET TROUBLE IN YOUR MIND DON'T GET TROUBLE IN YOUR MIND DON'T GET TROUBLE IN YOUR MIND DON'T GET TROUBLE IN YOUR MIND DON'T GET TROUBLE IN YOUR MIND DON'T GET TROUBLE IN YOUR MIND WEEER-EEER-EEER-EEER... [ WINDING SPRING ] YOU CAN'T TALK ABOU THE HISTORY OF THE BANJO IF YOU CAN'T TALK ABOUT RACISM, THE HISTORY OF THE BANJO IF YOU CAN'T TALK ABOUT RACISM, SLAVERY, MISOGYNY, IF YOU CAN'T TALK ABOUT RACISM, SLAVERY, MISOGYNY, APPROPRIATION, EXPLOITATION -- SLAVERY, MISOGYNY, APPROPRIATION, EXPLOITATION -- ALL OF THE THINGS THAT RUN APPROPRIATION, EXPLOITATION -- ALL OF THE THINGS THAT RUN COUNTER TO WHAT WE LOVE ALL OF THE THINGS THAT RUN COUNTER TO WHAT WE LOVE ABOUT THE BANJO. WE'RE AT A POINT IN OUR UNDERSTANDING OF THE HISTORY OF THIS INSTRUMENT THAT IT'S NO LONGER ACCEPTABLE TO PRETEND THESE OTHER THINGS DON'T EXIST. [ ORCHESTRA PLAYS ] Male chorus: IN THE EVENING BY THE MOONLIGHT... THE MINSTREL STAGE WAS LIKE GOING TO THE MOVIES TODAY. I MEAN, IT WAS THE MOST POPULAR FORM OF ENTERTAINMEN FROM ROUGHLY 1830 UNTIL THE END OF THE CENTURY THAN ANY OTHER ENTERTAINMEN IN THE WORLD. BECAUSE IT WAS SO POPULAR, ALL OF THAT WAS A PAR OF THIS CARICATURE ALL OF THAT WAS A PAR OF THIS CARICATURE THAT BEGAN AS A REALISTIC WAY OF THIS CARICATURE THAT BEGAN AS A REALISTIC WAY OF TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THAT BEGAN AS A REALISTIC WAY OF TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE BLACK COMMUNITY, OF TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE BLACK COMMUNITY, BUT SHORTLY, THE BLACK COMMUNITY, BUT SHORTLY, BECAME A WAY OF DEGRADING BUT SHORTLY, BECAME A WAY OF DEGRADING AND BECAME A WAY OF TRIVIALIZING BECAME A WAY OF DEGRADING AND BECAME A WAY OF TRIVIALIZING THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY. AND BECAME A WAY OF TRIVIALIZING THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY. THE BANJO BECAME THE INSTRUMEN THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY. THE BANJO BECAME THE INSTRUMEN THAT WAS THE IMAGE THE BANJO BECAME THE INSTRUMEN THAT WAS THE IMAGE OF SLAVE LIFE. IF YOU TAKE AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN INSTRUMENT, WITH ITS AFRICAN ROOTS, AFRICAN-AMERICAN INSTRUMENT, WITH ITS AFRICAN ROOTS, AND YOU ADD TO I WITH ITS AFRICAN ROOTS, AND YOU ADD TO I THE CELTIC MUSICAL TRADITIONS AND YOU ADD TO I THE CELTIC MUSICAL TRADITIONS AND WESTERN EUROPEAN THE CELTIC MUSICAL TRADITIONS AND WESTERN EUROPEAN MUSICAL TRADITIONS AND WESTERN EUROPEAN MUSICAL TRADITIONS THAT THESE WHITE PERFORMERS HAD, MUSICAL TRADITIONS THAT THESE WHITE PERFORMERS HAD, WHAT YOU WIND UP WITH THAT THESE WHITE PERFORMERS HAD, WHAT YOU WIND UP WITH IS SOMETHING THAT'S TOTALLY NEW, WHAT YOU WIND UP WITH IS SOMETHING THAT'S TOTALLY NEW, THAT COME TOGETHER IS SOMETHING THAT'S TOTALLY NEW, THAT COME TOGETHER FOR THE FIRST TIME AND MAKE THAT COME TOGETHER FOR THE FIRST TIME AND MAKE SOMETHING TRULY AMERICAN. THE STAGE IS SET VERY SIMPLY WHEN WE SEE THE TWO CULTURES COMING TOGETHER. IT DIDN'T TAKE ENTERTAINERS LONG TO FIGURE OUT, WOW, IF I GO OUT TO THE CIRCUS OR IF I GO DOWN TO MY LOCAL MUSIC PARLOR AND I PLAY THIS BANJO, WHICH NO ONE'S EVER SEEN A WHITE MAN PLAY BEFORE, AND I PLAY THIS MUSIC THAT NO ONE'S EVER HEARD BEFORE, I WILL MAKE MONEY. Martin: JOEL WALKER SWEENEY BROUGHT THE BANJO TO CENTER STAGE OF AMERICAN CULTURE. BORN IN APPOMATTOX, VIRGINIA, AROUND 1810, SWEENEY FOUND HIS CALLING WHEN HE HEARD THE "HALF-BARBARIC TWANG" OF THE GOURD BANJO AS PLAYED BY HIS NEIGHBOR SLAVES. FROM THEM HE LEARNED THE DOWNSTROKE STYLE AND HOW TO BUILD HIS OWN INSTRUMENT. HE MADE A NAME FOR HIMSELF AS A BLACK-FACE SONG-AND-DANCE MAN IN THE CIRCUS AND THEN CAME TO NEW YORK'S BOWERY THEATERS WITH THE BANJO ON HIS KNEE. IT'S THE FIRST BIG BANG OF THE BANJO. ALL THE GUYS WHO HAD BEEN DOING BLACK FACE ALL OF THE SUDDEN WANTED TO PLAY BANJO. NEW YORK WAS NOT ONLY THE JUMPING-OFF PLACE, BUT IT WAS ALSO A PLACE THE JUMPING-OFF PLACE, BUT IT WAS ALSO A PLACE FOR ALL THESE ACTS BUT IT WAS ALSO A PLACE FOR ALL THESE ACTS TO INTERMINGLE AND MIX FOR ALL THESE ACTS TO INTERMINGLE AND MIX AND COMPETE AND STEAL MATERIAL TO INTERMINGLE AND MIX AND COMPETE AND STEAL MATERIAL FROM EACH OTHER. AND COMPETE AND STEAL MATERIAL FROM EACH OTHER. AND SO HE FELL RIGHT INTO THAT. FROM EACH OTHER. AND SO HE FELL RIGHT INTO THAT. Martin: NEW YORK AUDIENCES AND SO HE FELL RIGHT INTO THAT. Martin: NEW YORK AUDIENCES WERE ALREADY WELL-ACQUAINTED Martin: NEW YORK AUDIENCES WERE ALREADY WELL-ACQUAINTED WITH BLACK-FACE ENTERTAINERS. WERE ALREADY WELL-ACQUAINTED WITH BLACK-FACE ENTERTAINERS. BUT THE SEEMINGLY AUTHENTIC WITH BLACK-FACE ENTERTAINERS. BUT THE SEEMINGLY AUTHENTIC PLANTATION SONGS BUT THE SEEMINGLY AUTHENTIC PLANTATION SONGS AND PLAYING STYLE MADE SWEENEY PLANTATION SONGS AND PLAYING STYLE MADE SWEENEY INTO ONE OF THE HOTTEST TICKETS AND PLAYING STYLE MADE SWEENEY INTO ONE OF THE HOTTEST TICKETS ON THE BOWERY STAGE. INTO ONE OF THE HOTTEST TICKETS ON THE BOWERY STAGE. FOLLOWING IN SWEENEY'S ON THE BOWERY STAGE. FOLLOWING IN SWEENEY'S FOOTSTEPS, FOUR BLACK-FACE FOLLOWING IN SWEENEY'S FOOTSTEPS, FOUR BLACK-FACE PERFORMERS JOINED FORCES FOOTSTEPS, FOUR BLACK-FACE PERFORMERS JOINED FORCES IN A BOWERY BOARDINGHOUSE PERFORMERS JOINED FORCES IN A BOWERY BOARDINGHOUSE AND CALLED THEMSELVES IN A BOWERY BOARDINGHOUSE AND CALLED THEMSELVES THE VIRGINIA MINSTRELS. AND CALLED THEMSELVES THE VIRGINIA MINSTRELS. IN THE WINTER OF 1843, THE VIRGINIA MINSTRELS. IN THE WINTER OF 1843, THEY DEBUTED A NEW FORM IN THE WINTER OF 1843, THEY DEBUTED A NEW FORM OF POPULAR ENTERTAINMEN THEY DEBUTED A NEW FORM OF POPULAR ENTERTAINMEN THAT WOULD DOMINATE OF POPULAR ENTERTAINMEN THAT WOULD DOMINATE THE AMERICAN STAGE THAT WOULD DOMINATE THE AMERICAN STAGE FOR THE NEXT HALF CENTURY -- THE AMERICAN STAGE FOR THE NEXT HALF CENTURY -- THE FIRST FULL-LENGTH FOR THE NEXT HALF CENTURY -- THE FIRST FULL-LENGTH BLACK-FACE MINSTREL SHOW. THE FIRST FULL-LENGTH BLACK-FACE MINSTREL SHOW. BECAUSE THE BANJO COMES BLACK-FACE MINSTREL SHOW. BECAUSE THE BANJO COMES INTO AMERICAN POPULAR MUSIC BECAUSE THE BANJO COMES INTO AMERICAN POPULAR MUSIC IN THE PERIOD OF THE EARLY 1840s INTO AMERICAN POPULAR MUSIC IN THE PERIOD OF THE EARLY 1840s WITH PLAYERS LIKE IN THE PERIOD OF THE EARLY 1840s WITH PLAYERS LIKE DANIEL DECATUR EMMET WITH PLAYERS LIKE DANIEL DECATUR EMMET AND JOEL WALKER SWEENEY, DANIEL DECATUR EMMET AND JOEL WALKER SWEENEY, THEY WERE BOTH, WE COULD SAY, AND JOEL WALKER SWEENEY, THEY WERE BOTH, WE COULD SAY, A VERY EARLY EXAMPLE THEY WERE BOTH, WE COULD SAY, A VERY EARLY EXAMPLE OF WHITE BOYS PLAYING THE BLUES. JUST AS A CENTURY LATER, ERIC CLAPTON OR JEFF BECK OR JIMMY PAGE IN BRITAIN LEARNED TO PLAY BLACK MUSIC FROM LISTENING TO RECORDINGS OF BLACK MUSICIANS, JOE SWEENEY AND DAN EMMET IN THE 1840s LEARNED TO PLAY THE BANJO FROM BLACK MODELS, IN THE 1840s LEARNED TO PLAY THE BANJO FROM BLACK MODELS, FROM BLACK MUSICIANS. THE MINSTREL SHOW WAS THE FIRST REAL STATEMENT ABOU THE UNIQUENESS OF AMERICAN CULTURE. WE WEREN'T IMPORTING SHAKESPEARE. WE WEREN'T TRYING TO EMULATE EUROPEAN CULTURE. WE WERE TRYING TO CREATE OUR OWN NATIONAL IDENTITY THROUGH THIS MUSIC, AS DEBASED AS IT MIGHT BE, BUT AN ATTEMPT TO CREATE SOMETHING OF NATIONAL TYPES BUT AN ATTEMPT TO CREATE SOMETHING OF NATIONAL TYPES THAT QUINTESSENTIALLY SOMETHING OF NATIONAL TYPES THAT QUINTESSENTIALLY IDENTIFY US. THAT QUINTESSENTIALLY IDENTIFY US. Martin: BY 1844, IDENTIFY US. Martin: BY 1844, OVER TWO DOZEN MINSTREL Martin: BY 1844, OVER TWO DOZEN MINSTREL COMPANIES WERE TOURING OVER TWO DOZEN MINSTREL COMPANIES WERE TOURING THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY. COMPANIES WERE TOURING THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY. MINSTREL TROUPES ON WAGON TRAINS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY. MINSTREL TROUPES ON WAGON TRAINS AND SHIPS ENTERTAINED PEOPLE MINSTREL TROUPES ON WAGON TRAINS AND SHIPS ENTERTAINED PEOPLE TRAVELING TO CALIFORNIA AND SHIPS ENTERTAINED PEOPLE TRAVELING TO CALIFORNIA TO SEARCH FOR GOLD. TRAVELING TO CALIFORNIA TO SEARCH FOR GOLD. WHEREVER AMERICANS WENT, TO SEARCH FOR GOLD. WHEREVER AMERICANS WENT, SO DID THE MINSTREL SHOW, WHEREVER AMERICANS WENT, SO DID THE MINSTREL SHOW, AND WITH IT, THE BANJO. SO DID THE MINSTREL SHOW, AND WITH IT, THE BANJO. THE MINSTREL SHOW TRANSFORMED AND WITH IT, THE BANJO. THE MINSTREL SHOW TRANSFORMED THE BANJO THE MINSTREL SHOW TRANSFORMED THE BANJO FROM A BLACK FOLK INSTRUMEN THE BANJO FROM A BLACK FOLK INSTRUMEN INTO THE NEW MUST-HAVE ICON FROM A BLACK FOLK INSTRUMEN INTO THE NEW MUST-HAVE ICON OF POP CULTURE. INTO THE NEW MUST-HAVE ICON OF POP CULTURE. Wunderlich: BY THE 1840s, OF POP CULTURE. Wunderlich: BY THE 1840s, WE'RE BEGINNING TO SEE Wunderlich: BY THE 1840s, WE'RE BEGINNING TO SEE A TRANSFORMATION OF THE BANJO WE'RE BEGINNING TO SEE A TRANSFORMATION OF THE BANJO FROM A PURELY CRAFT, A TRANSFORMATION OF THE BANJO FROM A PURELY CRAFT, HANDMADE INSTRUMEN FROM A PURELY CRAFT, HANDMADE INSTRUMEN BEING MADE BY THE PERFORMER, HANDMADE INSTRUMEN BEING MADE BY THE PERFORMER, TO SOMETHING THAT'S NOW BEING BEING MADE BY THE PERFORMER, TO SOMETHING THAT'S NOW BEING MANUFACTURED IN MAJOR CITIES. TO SOMETHING THAT'S NOW BEING MANUFACTURED IN MAJOR CITIES. THE DISSEMINATION IS INCREDIBLE MANUFACTURED IN MAJOR CITIES. THE DISSEMINATION IS INCREDIBLE AND VERY QUICK. THE DISSEMINATION IS INCREDIBLE AND VERY QUICK. IT ALMOST SEEMS, AS YOU GE AND VERY QUICK. IT ALMOST SEEMS, AS YOU GE TOWARDS THE CIVIL WAR, IT ALMOST SEEMS, AS YOU GE TOWARDS THE CIVIL WAR, THERE AREN'T ENOUGH TOWARDS THE CIVIL WAR, THERE AREN'T ENOUGH MANUFACTURERS THERE AREN'T ENOUGH MANUFACTURERS ABLE TO PRODUCE BANJOS MANUFACTURERS ABLE TO PRODUCE BANJOS TO MEET THE NEED. ABLE TO PRODUCE BANJOS TO MEET THE NEED. Martin: THE BITTER AND BLOODY TO MEET THE NEED. Martin: THE BITTER AND BLOODY CIVIL WAR HAS BEEN CALLED Martin: THE BITTER AND BLOODY CIVIL WAR HAS BEEN CALLED THE MOST MUSICAL WAR CIVIL WAR HAS BEEN CALLED THE MOST MUSICAL WAR IN OUR HISTORY. THE MOST MUSICAL WAR IN OUR HISTORY. MINSTRELSY REMAINED EQUALLY IN OUR HISTORY. MINSTRELSY REMAINED EQUALLY POPULAR ON BOTH SIDES MINSTRELSY REMAINED EQUALLY POPULAR ON BOTH SIDES OF THE MASON-DIXON LINE. POPULAR ON BOTH SIDES OF THE MASON-DIXON LINE. [ BAND PLAYING "DIXIE" OF THE MASON-DIXON LINE. [ BAND PLAYING "DIXIE" ON OLD RECORDING ] [ BAND PLAYING "DIXIE" ON OLD RECORDING ] A YANKEE, DAN EMMETT, ON OLD RECORDING ] A YANKEE, DAN EMMETT, AND HIS BLACK NEIGHBORS A YANKEE, DAN EMMETT, AND HIS BLACK NEIGHBORS FROM OHIO, THE SNOWDENS, AND HIS BLACK NEIGHBORS FROM OHIO, THE SNOWDENS, PROVIDED THE UNOFFICIAL FROM OHIO, THE SNOWDENS, PROVIDED THE UNOFFICIAL CONFEDERATE ANTHEM. PROVIDED THE UNOFFICIAL CONFEDERATE ANTHEM. THE BANJO GAVE SOLACE CONFEDERATE ANTHEM. THE BANJO GAVE SOLACE AND DIVERSION TO FOOT SOLDIERS, THE BANJO GAVE SOLACE AND DIVERSION TO FOOT SOLDIERS, CIVILIANS AND GENERALS. AND DIVERSION TO FOOT SOLDIERS, CIVILIANS AND GENERALS. LINCOLN'S BODYGUARD PLAYED BANJO CIVILIANS AND GENERALS. LINCOLN'S BODYGUARD PLAYED BANJO TO LIFT THE PRESIDENT'S SPIRITS. LINCOLN'S BODYGUARD PLAYED BANJO TO LIFT THE PRESIDENT'S SPIRITS. MINSTRELSY EMERGED FROM THE WAR TO LIFT THE PRESIDENT'S SPIRITS. MINSTRELSY EMERGED FROM THE WAR AS A NATIONAL PHENOMENON. MINSTRELSY EMERGED FROM THE WAR AS A NATIONAL PHENOMENON. BUT IT WASN'T LONG BEFORE AS A NATIONAL PHENOMENON. BUT IT WASN'T LONG BEFORE ENTREPRENEURS OF THE GILDED AGE BUT IT WASN'T LONG BEFORE ENTREPRENEURS OF THE GILDED AGE SAW THE VALUE IN ELEVATING ENTREPRENEURS OF THE GILDED AGE SAW THE VALUE IN ELEVATING THE BANJO'S IMAGE. SAW THE VALUE IN ELEVATING THE BANJO'S IMAGE. BANJO MAKERS LIKE A.C. FAIRBANKS THE BANJO'S IMAGE. BANJO MAKERS LIKE A.C. FAIRBANKS AND S.S. STEWAR BANJO MAKERS LIKE A.C. FAIRBANKS AND S.S. STEWAR DESIGNED ORNATE INSTRUMENTS AND S.S. STEWAR DESIGNED ORNATE INSTRUMENTS INTENDED FOR RESPECTABLE DESIGNED ORNATE INSTRUMENTS INTENDED FOR RESPECTABLE MEN AND WOMEN TO PLAY IN INTENDED FOR RESPECTABLE MEN AND WOMEN TO PLAY IN PARLORS, COLLEGE BANJO CLUBS, MEN AND WOMEN TO PLAY IN PARLORS, COLLEGE BANJO CLUBS, AND CONCERT HALLS. PARLORS, COLLEGE BANJO CLUBS, AND CONCERT HALLS. NEW PATENTS IN CONSTRUCTION AND CONCERT HALLS. NEW PATENTS IN CONSTRUCTION TURNED THE FOLK INSTRUMEN NEW PATENTS IN CONSTRUCTION TURNED THE FOLK INSTRUMEN INTO AN INDUSTRIAL MARVEL. TURNED THE FOLK INSTRUMEN INTO AN INDUSTRIAL MARVEL. BUT REINVENTING THE INSTRUMEN INTO AN INDUSTRIAL MARVEL. BUT REINVENTING THE INSTRUMEN WASN'T ENOUGH. BUT REINVENTING THE INSTRUMEN WASN'T ENOUGH. THEY HAD TO REINVENT THE MUSIC WASN'T ENOUGH. THEY HAD TO REINVENT THE MUSIC AND THE WAY IT SHOULD BE PLAYED. THEY HAD TO REINVENT THE MUSIC AND THE WAY IT SHOULD BE PLAYED. THEY CALLED IT "CLASSIC." AND THE WAY IT SHOULD BE PLAYED. THEY CALLED IT "CLASSIC." Carlin: AND SO THEY WANTED THEY CALLED IT "CLASSIC." Carlin: AND SO THEY WANTED TO SEPARATE OU Carlin: AND SO THEY WANTED TO SEPARATE OU THIS INSTRUMENT FROM TO SEPARATE OU THIS INSTRUMENT FROM BLACK CULTURE. THIS INSTRUMENT FROM BLACK CULTURE. THEY WEREN'T SELLING TO BLACKS, BLACK CULTURE. THEY WEREN'T SELLING TO BLACKS, THEY WERE SELLING TO WHITES. THEY WEREN'T SELLING TO BLACKS, THEY WERE SELLING TO WHITES. IT'S JUST ONE STEP REMOVED THEY WERE SELLING TO WHITES. IT'S JUST ONE STEP REMOVED FROM SAYING, IT'S JUST ONE STEP REMOVED FROM SAYING, "THIS IS AN AFRICAN WAY FROM SAYING, "THIS IS AN AFRICAN WAY AND THIS IS A EUROPEAN WAY." "THIS IS AN AFRICAN WAY AND THIS IS A EUROPEAN WAY." OR THIS IS THE OLD WAY, AND THIS IS A EUROPEAN WAY." OR THIS IS THE OLD WAY, THIS IS THE MODERN WAY. OR THIS IS THE OLD WAY, THIS IS THE MODERN WAY. THIS IS THE SLAVE WAY, THIS IS THIS IS THE MODERN WAY. THIS IS THE SLAVE WAY, THIS IS THE WHITE, MIDDLE-CLASS WAY. MEMPHIS IS A REALLY AMAZING PLACE FOR THE BLUES AND FOR BLACK MUSIC IN GENERAL. WHEN BOSS CRUMP WAS RUNNING THE SHOW AROUND HERE, THERE WAS A LOT OF MUSIC AND THERE WAS A LOT OF ENTERTAINMENT THAT WAS AROUND THE CITY. I'M GOIN' DOWN TO MEMPHIS GOIN' DOWN FOR SOME BEER I'M GOIN' TO MEMPHIS GOIN' DOWN FOR THE BEER IF I CAN'T FIND ROBERTA I'M GONNA HAVE TO FIND LUCILLE I'M GONNA HAVE TO FIND LUCILLE SHE'LL SEE ME ANY TIME I WANT. LUCILLE SHE'LL SEE ME ANY TIME I WANT. YOU GET TO SEE LIKE RAGTIME SHE'LL SEE ME ANY TIME I WANT. YOU GET TO SEE LIKE RAGTIME AND BRASS BAND MUSIC AND BLUES, AND COUNTRY BLUES AND OLD-TIME FIDDLING BANJO MUSIC AND THE SONGSTER MUSIC THAT WAS IN THERE. ALL PUT TOGETHER IN A REALLY AMAZING MELTING POT. Martin: GUS CANNON WAS A BANJO-PLAYING SONGSTER WHO EMBODIED THE CULTURAL CROSSROADS A BANJO-PLAYING SONGSTER WHO EMBODIED THE CULTURAL CROSSROADS THAT WAS MEMPHIS. EMBODIED THE CULTURAL CROSSROADS THAT WAS MEMPHIS. HIS LONG CAREER LINKS THAT WAS MEMPHIS. HIS LONG CAREER LINKS BLACK FOLK STYLES AND MINSTRELSY HIS LONG CAREER LINKS BLACK FOLK STYLES AND MINSTRELSY WITH THE POPULAR MUSIC BLACK FOLK STYLES AND MINSTRELSY WITH THE POPULAR MUSIC OF THE 1920s. WITH THE POPULAR MUSIC OF THE 1920s. THE SON OF A SHARECROPPER OF THE 1920s. THE SON OF A SHARECROPPER AND FORMER SLAVE, GUS WAS BORN THE SON OF A SHARECROPPER AND FORMER SLAVE, GUS WAS BORN IN 1883 ON THE NEWELL PLANTATION AND FORMER SLAVE, GUS WAS BORN IN 1883 ON THE NEWELL PLANTATION IN THE NORTH MISSISSIPPI IN 1883 ON THE NEWELL PLANTATION IN THE NORTH MISSISSIPPI HILL COUNTRY. IN THE NORTH MISSISSIPPI HILL COUNTRY. HE WAS COMING FROM HILL COUNTRY. HE WAS COMING FROM A PLACE IN WHICH YOU HAD HE WAS COMING FROM A PLACE IN WHICH YOU HAD THIS HUGE BANJO CULTURE. THERE WAS FIDDLING AND BANJO PLAYING IN THE FAMILY. HE LEARNED TO FIDDLE FIRST, WHEN HE WAS STARTING, AROUND 8 YEARS OLD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND HE STARTED PLAYING BANJO WHEN HE WAS 12. Martin: EVERY SPRING, FROM WHEN HE WAS 12. Martin: EVERY SPRING, FROM THE TIME HE WAS 13 YEARS OLD, Martin: EVERY SPRING, FROM THE TIME HE WAS 13 YEARS OLD, HE JOINED THOUSANDS OF OTHER THE TIME HE WAS 13 YEARS OLD, HE JOINED THOUSANDS OF OTHER BLACKS SEARCHING HE JOINED THOUSANDS OF OTHER BLACKS SEARCHING FOR SEASONAL WORK. BLACKS SEARCHING FOR SEASONAL WORK. BY THE TIME HE WAS 20, HE HAD FOR SEASONAL WORK. BY THE TIME HE WAS 20, HE HAD SHARECROPPED, BUILT LEVEES, BY THE TIME HE WAS 20, HE HAD SHARECROPPED, BUILT LEVEES, DUG DITCHES, AND LOADED SHARECROPPED, BUILT LEVEES, DUG DITCHES, AND LOADED RIVERBOATS. DUG DITCHES, AND LOADED RIVERBOATS. WHEREVER CANNON HAPPENED TO BE RIVERBOATS. WHEREVER CANNON HAPPENED TO BE WORKING, HE AND A FEW OF HIS WHEREVER CANNON HAPPENED TO BE WORKING, HE AND A FEW OF HIS BUDDIES PLAYED FOR COUNTRY WORKING, HE AND A FEW OF HIS BUDDIES PLAYED FOR COUNTRY DANCES, SUPPERS AND SPECIAL BUDDIES PLAYED FOR COUNTRY DANCES, SUPPERS AND SPECIAL EVENTS. DANCES, SUPPERS AND SPECIAL EVENTS. CANNON PRIDED HIMSELF ON BEING EVENTS. CANNON PRIDED HIMSELF ON BEING A PROFESSIONAL ENTERTAINER, CANNON PRIDED HIMSELF ON BEING A PROFESSIONAL ENTERTAINER, A "SONGSTER," PUTTING HIS A PROFESSIONAL ENTERTAINER, A "SONGSTER," PUTTING HIS DISTINCTIVE MARK ON WHATEVER HIS A "SONGSTER," PUTTING HIS DISTINCTIVE MARK ON WHATEVER HIS AUDIENCE WANTED TO HEAR. DISTINCTIVE MARK ON WHATEVER HIS AUDIENCE WANTED TO HEAR. THE TEENAGE CANNON WAS ALSO AUDIENCE WANTED TO HEAR. THE TEENAGE CANNON WAS ALSO PICKING UP ON A BLACK FOLK STYLE THE TEENAGE CANNON WAS ALSO PICKING UP ON A BLACK FOLK STYLE THAT WOULD SOON BE KNOWN AS PICKING UP ON A BLACK FOLK STYLE THAT WOULD SOON BE KNOWN AS THE BLUES. IN CLARKSDALE, MISSISSIPPI, A LOCAL GUITARIST SHOWED HIM HOW TO SLIDE A KNIFE ALONG THE FRETS OF HIS INSTRUMENT TO PRODUCE A METALLIC MOAN. WHILE THE YOUNGER MUSICIANS PREFERRED THE GUITAR FOR PLAYING THIS NEW STYLE, CANNON PUT IT ON THE BANJO. GUS CANNON WAS AMAZING BECAUSE HE COULD PLAY ALL THESE DIFFERENT STYLES. SO GUS CANNON'S THE ONLY ONE THAT I KNOW OF THAT WAS RECORDED PLAYING THAT FINGER STYLE WITH BLUES. I MEAN, EVERYBODY ELSE, IF THEY'RE PLAYING, THEY'RE PLECTRUM PLAYING. THEY'RE PLAYING, THEY'RE PLECTRUM PLAYING. YOU KNOW, OR THEY'RE PLAYING THEY'RE PLECTRUM PLAYING. YOU KNOW, OR THEY'RE PLAYING A FOUR-STRING DOING CHORDAL YOU KNOW, OR THEY'RE PLAYING A FOUR-STRING DOING CHORDAL STUFF FOR JAZZ AND BLUES. A FOUR-STRING DOING CHORDAL STUFF FOR JAZZ AND BLUES. BUT HE'S THE ONLY ONE THAT'S STUFF FOR JAZZ AND BLUES. BUT HE'S THE ONLY ONE THAT'S DOING THIS OFF-TIME PICKING AND FINGER PICKING STYLE THAT WORKS FOR THE BLUES. BUT I GUESS I'LL HAVE TO CATCH A FRISCO OU IN THIS LAN' CATCH A FRISCO OUT Martin: THE ASPIRING SONGSTER ALSO HAD TO KEEP UP WITH THE LATEST POPULAR TUNES. "COON SONGS," AS THEY WERE COMMONLY CALLED, SWEP TIN PAN ALLEY IN THE 1890s. THESE SONGS TOOK THE MINSTREL SHOW CARICATURES TO NEW EXTREMES. ALONG WITH RAGTIME MUSIC AND THE CAKEWALK DANCE CRAZE, COON SONGS WERE FAVORITE DIVERSIONS FOR A COUNTRY INCREASINGLY DOMINATED BY THE BRUTAL RACISM OF JIM CROW. IRONICALLY, THEY PROVIDED A GATEWAY FOR AFRICAN-AMERICANS INTO MAINSTREAM SHOW BIZ. Flemons: HIS PERFORMANCE STYLE WAS ONE OF THE FIRST TIMES I WAS REALLY HEARING A BLACK STYLE WAS ONE OF THE FIRST TIMES I WAS REALLY HEARING A BLACK PERSON, NOT SO MUCH DOING I WAS REALLY HEARING A BLACK PERSON, NOT SO MUCH DOING THE STEREOTYPES OF THE MINSTREL PERSON, NOT SO MUCH DOING THE STEREOTYPES OF THE MINSTREL BUT HE WAS PLAYING UP TO THOSE THE STEREOTYPES OF THE MINSTREL BUT HE WAS PLAYING UP TO THOSE PERFORMANCE TYPES AND HE WAS BUT HE WAS PLAYING UP TO THOSE PERFORMANCE TYPES AND HE WAS MAKING IT A REALISTIC STATEMENT, PERFORMANCE TYPES AND HE WAS MAKING IT A REALISTIC STATEMENT, A PERSONAL STATEMENT. MAKING IT A REALISTIC STATEMENT, A PERSONAL STATEMENT. HE ADAPTED HIS COUNTRY STYLE OF A PERSONAL STATEMENT. HE ADAPTED HIS COUNTRY STYLE OF BANJO PLAYING INTO HE ADAPTED HIS COUNTRY STYLE OF BANJO PLAYING INTO THE POPULAR SONGS OF THE DAY. Martin: FROM 1914 UNTIL THE EARLY 1930s, GUS CANNON TOURED WITH MEDICINE SHOWS THE EARLY 1930s, GUS CANNON TOURED WITH MEDICINE SHOWS THROUGHOUT THE COTTON SOUTH. HE MADE A NAME FOR HIMSELF AS "BANJO JOE," BILLED AS THE COLORED CHAMPION BANJO PUGILIST OF THE WORLD. IN BETWEEN THE PITCHES FOR KICKAPOO SAGWA, WIZARD OIL AND VIMTONE, BANJOISTS, BLACK-FACE COMEDIANS, AND BLUES SINGERS WERE FAVORED ENTERTAINMENTS. THE LINEAMENTS AND SALVES PROMISED TO BE "GOOD FOR WHAT AILS YOU." PROMISED TO BE "GOOD FOR WHAT AILS YOU." BUT THE HEALTHIEST TONIC WAS WHAT AILS YOU." BUT THE HEALTHIEST TONIC WAS PROBABLY THE MUSIC ITSELF. BUT THE HEALTHIEST TONIC WAS PROBABLY THE MUSIC ITSELF. SO JUST THE WHOLE IDEA OF PROBABLY THE MUSIC ITSELF. SO JUST THE WHOLE IDEA OF THE MEDICINE SHOWS BEING SO JUST THE WHOLE IDEA OF THE MEDICINE SHOWS BEING AN ENTERTAINMENT MELTING PO THE MEDICINE SHOWS BEING AN ENTERTAINMENT MELTING PO SORT OF APPEALS TO ME. AN ENTERTAINMENT MELTING PO SORT OF APPEALS TO ME. THERE ARE NO STRICT RULES. YOU CAN JUST TAKE FROM HERE AND TAKE FROM THERE AND JUST MIX AND MATCH AND PUT IT ALL TOGETHER ON THE STAGE AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS. Martin: WHEN HE WASN' TOURING IN THE DOCTOR SHOWS, CANNON JOINED THE THRIVING BLACK TOURING IN THE DOCTOR SHOWS, CANNON JOINED THE THRIVING BLACK MUSIC SCENE IN MEMPHIS. CANNON JOINED THE THRIVING BLACK MUSIC SCENE IN MEMPHIS. THE CONCENTRATION OF MUSICIANS MUSIC SCENE IN MEMPHIS. THE CONCENTRATION OF MUSICIANS DREW THE ATTENTION OF LEGENDARY THE CONCENTRATION OF MUSICIANS DREW THE ATTENTION OF LEGENDARY TALENT SCOUT RALPH PEER. DREW THE ATTENTION OF LEGENDARY TALENT SCOUT RALPH PEER. HE WAS LOOKING FOR THE NEXT BIG TALENT SCOUT RALPH PEER. HE WAS LOOKING FOR THE NEXT BIG THING IN RACE RECORDS. HE WAS LOOKING FOR THE NEXT BIG THING IN RACE RECORDS. CANNON WAS READY TO JUMP ON THING IN RACE RECORDS. CANNON WAS READY TO JUMP ON THE OPPORTUNITY. CANNON WAS READY TO JUMP ON THE OPPORTUNITY. HE ASSEMBLED A NEW BAND THE OPPORTUNITY. HE ASSEMBLED A NEW BAND ESPECIALLY FOR THE SESSIONS. HE ASSEMBLED A NEW BAND ESPECIALLY FOR THE SESSIONS. HE CALLED THEM ESPECIALLY FOR THE SESSIONS. HE CALLED THEM "THE JUG STOMPERS." [ SINGING "TEAR IT DOWN" ] Martin: JUG BANDS BECAME FIXTURES OF THE BUSTLING MUSIC SCENE ON BEALE STREE FIXTURES OF THE BUSTLING MUSIC SCENE ON BEALE STREE IN MEMPHIS. SCENE ON BEALE STREE IN MEMPHIS. BLACK STRING BANDS WITH IN MEMPHIS. BLACK STRING BANDS WITH A TWIST, FEATURING NOVELTY BLACK STRING BANDS WITH A TWIST, FEATURING NOVELTY INSTRUMENTS WITH AN EMPHASIS ON A TWIST, FEATURING NOVELTY INSTRUMENTS WITH AN EMPHASIS ON THE HOMEMADE AND THE RUSTIC. INSTRUMENTS WITH AN EMPHASIS ON THE HOMEMADE AND THE RUSTIC. THE BRASHNESS OF THE BANJO FI THE HOMEMADE AND THE RUSTIC. THE BRASHNESS OF THE BANJO FI WELL WITH THE SCRAPE OF THE BRASHNESS OF THE BANJO FI WELL WITH THE SCRAPE OF THE WASHBOARD AND THE BASS BUZZ WELL WITH THE SCRAPE OF THE WASHBOARD AND THE BASS BUZZ OF THE JUG. THE WASHBOARD AND THE BASS BUZZ OF THE JUG. NO FASHIONABLE PRIVATE PARTY, OF THE JUG. NO FASHIONABLE PRIVATE PARTY, PICNIC OR RIVERBOAT CRUISE COULD NO FASHIONABLE PRIVATE PARTY, PICNIC OR RIVERBOAT CRUISE COULD TAKE PLACE WITHOUT THE MUSICAL PICNIC OR RIVERBOAT CRUISE COULD TAKE PLACE WITHOUT THE MUSICAL ANTICS OF A JUG BAND. TAKE PLACE WITHOUT THE MUSICAL ANTICS OF A JUG BAND. Wilson: THESE INSTRUMENTS, ANTICS OF A JUG BAND. Wilson: THESE INSTRUMENTS, THE STEREOTYPE IS, Wilson: THESE INSTRUMENTS, THE STEREOTYPE IS, NUMBER ONE, THIS IS FUN MUSIC. THE STEREOTYPE IS, NUMBER ONE, THIS IS FUN MUSIC. JUST GRAB ANYTHING AND PLAY NUMBER ONE, THIS IS FUN MUSIC. JUST GRAB ANYTHING AND PLAY ANYTHING AND JUST HAVE FUN. JUST GRAB ANYTHING AND PLAY ANYTHING AND JUST HAVE FUN. NUMBER TWO, OH, THE POOR, THEY ANYTHING AND JUST HAVE FUN. NUMBER TWO, OH, THE POOR, THEY COULDN'T AFFORD REAL NUMBER TWO, OH, THE POOR, THEY COULDN'T AFFORD REAL INSTRUMENTS. COULDN'T AFFORD REAL INSTRUMENTS. AREN'T THOSE PEOPLE SO INSTRUMENTS. AREN'T THOSE PEOPLE SO INVENTIVE? AREN'T THOSE PEOPLE SO INVENTIVE? NO. IT'S NOT ABOUT THEY COULDN' INVENTIVE? NO. IT'S NOT ABOUT THEY COULDN' AFFORD SOMETHING. NO. IT'S NOT ABOUT THEY COULDN' AFFORD SOMETHING. IT'S, WELL, YOU DON'T HAVE AFFORD SOMETHING. IT'S, WELL, YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING THAT MAKES THE SOUND IT'S, WELL, YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING THAT MAKES THE SOUND THAT WE NEED FOR OUR CULTURE, ANYTHING THAT MAKES THE SOUND THAT WE NEED FOR OUR CULTURE, FOR OUR CULTURAL ESTHETIC. THAT WE NEED FOR OUR CULTURE, FOR OUR CULTURAL ESTHETIC. SO WE HAVE TO MAKE AND USE. I WENT TO AN OLD LADY'S HOUSE ONE DAY, AND SHE TOLD ME, "WALK RIGHT IN." I SAID, "I THANK YOU." SHE SAID, "WELL, WILL YOU SIT DOWN?" I SAID, "THANK YOU, MA'AM." SHE SAYS TO ME, SAYS, "WELL, HOW LONG YOU GONNA BE HERE?" I SAY, "I'LL ONLY BE HERE BUT A LITTLE WHILE." AND SO THAT NIGHT, SOME WAY OR ANOTHER, I COMMENCE A-DREAMIN'. SO GOT OUT MY OLD BANJO, NOW, YOU KNOW I MUST GE SOMETHING OR OTHER ON IT. WALK RIGHT IN SIT RIGHT DOWN AND, BABY, LET YOUR MIND SIT RIGHT DOWN AND, BABY, LET YOUR MIND ROLL ON AND, BABY, LET YOUR MIND ROLL ON HEY, WALK RIGHT IN ROLL ON HEY, WALK RIGHT IN STAY A LITTLE WHILE HEY, WALK RIGHT IN STAY A LITTLE WHILE 'CAUSE, DADDY, YOU CAN' STAY A LITTLE WHILE 'CAUSE, DADDY, YOU CAN' STAY TOO LONG 'CAUSE, DADDY, YOU CAN' STAY TOO LONG Martin: IN 1929, CANNON STAY TOO LONG Martin: IN 1929, CANNON AND HIS JUG STOMPERS RECORDED Martin: IN 1929, CANNON AND HIS JUG STOMPERS RECORDED HIS SONG "WALK RIGHT IN." AND HIS JUG STOMPERS RECORDED HIS SONG "WALK RIGHT IN." IT HAD THE PLAYFUL STRUT OF HIS SONG "WALK RIGHT IN." IT HAD THE PLAYFUL STRUT OF AN OLD-FASHIONED CAKEWALK AND IT HAD THE PLAYFUL STRUT OF AN OLD-FASHIONED CAKEWALK AND THE RECORDING REMAINED LARGELY AN OLD-FASHIONED CAKEWALK AND THE RECORDING REMAINED LARGELY UNNOTICED FOR THE NEXT 30 YEARS. THE RECORDING REMAINED LARGELY UNNOTICED FOR THE NEXT 30 YEARS. WALK RIGHT IN SIT RIGHT DOWN DADDY, LET YOUR MIND ROLL ON WALK RIGHT IN SIT RIGHT DOWN DADDY, LET YOUR MIND ROLL ON SIT RIGHT DOWN DADDY, LET YOUR MIND ROLL ON Martin: IN 1963, DADDY, LET YOUR MIND ROLL ON Martin: IN 1963, BANJOIST ERIC DARLING, WHO HAD Martin: IN 1963, BANJOIST ERIC DARLING, WHO HAD REPLACED PETE SEEGER BANJOIST ERIC DARLING, WHO HAD REPLACED PETE SEEGER AND THE WEAVERS, CREATED REPLACED PETE SEEGER AND THE WEAVERS, CREATED A NEW GROUP CALLED AND THE WEAVERS, CREATED A NEW GROUP CALLED THE ROOFTOP SINGERS TO RECORD A NEW GROUP CALLED THE ROOFTOP SINGERS TO RECORD WHAT HE THOUGHT WAS AN OBSCURE THE ROOFTOP SINGERS TO RECORD WHAT HE THOUGHT WAS AN OBSCURE JUG BAND TUNE. WHAT HE THOUGHT WAS AN OBSCURE JUG BAND TUNE. THAT SAME YEAR, THINGS HAD JUG BAND TUNE. THAT SAME YEAR, THINGS HAD GOTTEN SO BAD FOR CANNON THAT HE THAT SAME YEAR, THINGS HAD GOTTEN SO BAD FOR CANNON THAT HE HAD TO HOCK HIS BANJO JUST TO GOTTEN SO BAD FOR CANNON THAT HE HAD TO HOCK HIS BANJO JUST TO BUY COAL TO HEAT HIS HOUSE. HAD TO HOCK HIS BANJO JUST TO BUY COAL TO HEAT HIS HOUSE. "WALK RIGHT IN" SPENT THREE BUY COAL TO HEAT HIS HOUSE. "WALK RIGHT IN" SPENT THREE WEEKS AT NUMBER ONE AND SOLD "WALK RIGHT IN" SPENT THREE WEEKS AT NUMBER ONE AND SOLD OVER A MILLION COPIES. WEEKS AT NUMBER ONE AND SOLD OVER A MILLION COPIES. CANNON DREAMED OF GOING ON TOUR OVER A MILLION COPIES. CANNON DREAMED OF GOING ON TOUR AND RECORDING AGAIN. CANNON DREAMED OF GOING ON TOUR AND RECORDING AGAIN. HE WAS INVITED TO A FEW FOLK AND RECORDING AGAIN. HE WAS INVITED TO A FEW FOLK FESTIVALS UP NORTH AND THE MEMPHIS-BASED STAX RECORDS SET UP A RECORDING SESSION FOR HIM. BUT STAX WAS THE STUDIO OF THE NEW SOUL MUSIC, OTIS REDDING AND RUFUS THOMAS, AND THE THE NEW SOUL MUSIC, OTIS REDDING AND RUFUS THOMAS, AND THE AUDIENCE FOR THE BLACK BANJO AND RUFUS THOMAS, AND THE AUDIENCE FOR THE BLACK BANJO SONGSTER HAD LONG SINCE AUDIENCE FOR THE BLACK BANJO SONGSTER HAD LONG SINCE MOVED ON. SONGSTER HAD LONG SINCE MOVED ON. WALK RIGHT IN MOVED ON. WALK RIGHT IN SIT RIGHT DOWN WALK RIGHT IN SIT RIGHT DOWN DADDY, LET YOUR MIND ROLL ON SIT RIGHT DOWN DADDY, LET YOUR MIND ROLL ON DADDY, LET YOUR MIND ROLL ON DADDY, LET YOUR MIND ROLL ON DADDY, LET YOUR MIND ROLL ON [ APPLAUSE ] FOR ME, I NEVER SET OUT TO TRY AND BE SOMETHING THAT WAS DEFINED. YOU KNOW, NO MATTER WHAT I'M PLAYING, I TRY TO PUT MYSELF INTO IT AND DO WHAT I CAN. MY GENERATION AND THE ONE BEFORE ME FELT THE BANJO'S AN UNCLE TOM INSTRUMENT. BEFORE ME FELT THE BANJO'S AN UNCLE TOM INSTRUMENT. I'VE ALWAYS HAD A SORT OPEN MIND AN UNCLE TOM INSTRUMENT. I'VE ALWAYS HAD A SORT OPEN MIND SO I'M NOT SURE IF I EVER REALLY I'VE ALWAYS HAD A SORT OPEN MIND SO I'M NOT SURE IF I EVER REALLY FELT THAT WAY. SO I'M NOT SURE IF I EVER REALLY FELT THAT WAY. IF WE CAN GET ANYTHING OU FELT THAT WAY. IF WE CAN GET ANYTHING OU OF IT, WE SHOULD ALL TRY TO IF WE CAN GET ANYTHING OU OF IT, WE SHOULD ALL TRY TO EMBRACE EVERYTHING THAT I OF IT, WE SHOULD ALL TRY TO EMBRACE EVERYTHING THAT I STANDS FOR. EMBRACE EVERYTHING THAT I STANDS FOR. WE COULD LEARN A LOT FROM IT. STANDS FOR. WE COULD LEARN A LOT FROM IT. [ SINGING "MAMSELLE JOSEPHINE" ] WELL, CHARLIE, OLD BOY, IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE YOU AND I ALONE PLAYED IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE YOU AND I ALONE PLAYED ANY TOGETHER, HADN'T IT? YOU AND I ALONE PLAYED ANY TOGETHER, HADN'T IT? Charlie: YES, IT HAS, BOY. ANY TOGETHER, HADN'T IT? Charlie: YES, IT HAS, BOY. LET'S TRY A FEW OF THOSE OLD Charlie: YES, IT HAS, BOY. LET'S TRY A FEW OF THOSE OLD SOUTHERN MELODIES FOR THE BOYS. LET'S TRY A FEW OF THOSE OLD SOUTHERN MELODIES FOR THE BOYS. Charlie: OH, IT DOES ME GOOD SOUTHERN MELODIES FOR THE BOYS. Charlie: OH, IT DOES ME GOOD TO HEAR YOU SAY THAT. Charlie: OH, IT DOES ME GOOD TO HEAR YOU SAY THAT. LET'S GO. TO HEAR YOU SAY THAT. LET'S GO. Charlie: GOOD. LET'S GO. Charlie: GOOD. STEP ON IT! Sapoznik: WE CAN'T EXPLAIN HOW EACH GENERATION PRODUCES A VISIONARY, WHO, IN ATTEMPTING TO CREATE SOMETHING FOR HIMSELF, CREATES A LIBERATING AND REVOLUTIONARY LANDSCAPE FOR EVERYONE ELSE TO TAKE PART. BUY ME A HORSE AND MAKE ME A SLED NOBODY RIDES WITH IDA RED AND MAKE ME A SLED NOBODY RIDES WITH IDA RED IDA RED, SHE LIVED IN TOWN NOBODY RIDES WITH IDA RED IDA RED, SHE LIVED IN TOWN SHE WEIGHED 440 POUNDS IDA RED, SHE LIVED IN TOWN SHE WEIGHED 440 POUNDS GOIN' UP SHOOTIN' CREEK SHE WEIGHED 440 POUNDS GOIN' UP SHOOTIN' CREEK GOIN' IN A RUN GOIN' UP SHOOTIN' CREEK GOIN' IN A RUN GOIN' UP SHOOTIN' CREEK GOIN' IN A RUN GOIN' UP SHOOTIN' CREEK HAVE A LITTLE FUN AS A KID, MY FATHER AND UNCLE WERE GREAT STORYTELLERS. AND THEY WERE ALWAYS TELLING UNCLE WERE GREAT STORYTELLERS. AND THEY WERE ALWAYS TELLING STORIES ABOUT THINGS AND THEY WERE ALWAYS TELLING STORIES ABOUT THINGS CHARLIE HAD DONE. STORIES ABOUT THINGS CHARLIE HAD DONE. WHERE A LOT OF KIDS HEAR CHARLIE HAD DONE. WHERE A LOT OF KIDS HEAR NURSERY RHYMES, WHERE A LOT OF KIDS HEAR NURSERY RHYMES, I HEARD CHARLIE POOLE STORIES. NURSERY RHYMES, I HEARD CHARLIE POOLE STORIES. IDA RED, I HEARD CHARLIE POOLE STORIES. IDA RED, SHE'S A DARNED OLD FOOL IDA RED, SHE'S A DARNED OLD FOOL TRIED TO PUT A SADDLE SHE'S A DARNED OLD FOOL TRIED TO PUT A SADDLE ON A HUMPBACK MULE TRIED TO PUT A SADDLE ON A HUMPBACK MULE WE CAME UP HERE ON A HUMPBACK MULE WE CAME UP HERE TO FIND HIS GRAVE. WE CAME UP HERE TO FIND HIS GRAVE. WE HAD TO GET THE OLD MAP, TO FIND HIS GRAVE. WE HAD TO GET THE OLD MAP, YOU KNOW, TO FIND THE GRAVE. WE HAD TO GET THE OLD MAP, YOU KNOW, TO FIND THE GRAVE. AND WHEN WE FOUND HIS GRAVE, YOU KNOW, TO FIND THE GRAVE. AND WHEN WE FOUND HIS GRAVE, THERE WAS A LIQUOR BOTTLE AND WHEN WE FOUND HIS GRAVE, THERE WAS A LIQUOR BOTTLE ON THE GRAVE. THERE WAS A LIQUOR BOTTLE ON THE GRAVE. AND WE THOUGHT, "OKAY, THIS ON THE GRAVE. AND WE THOUGHT, "OKAY, THIS MUST BE IT." AND WE THOUGHT, "OKAY, THIS MUST BE IT." [ CHUCKLES ] MUST BE IT." [ CHUCKLES ] ONE OF THE THINGS I LOVE [ CHUCKLES ] ONE OF THE THINGS I LOVE ABOUT CHARLIE'S MUSIC IS HE WAS BONA FIDE, AS THEY WOULD SAY. HE WAS AUTHENTIC. WHEN HE SANG HE RAMBLED, IT COULD HAVE BEEN AUTOBIOGRAPHICAL. WHEN HE SANG, "TAKE A DRINK ON ME," HE MEANT IT. IT WAS PART AND PARCEL ON ME," HE MEANT IT. IT WAS PART AND PARCEL OF THE WAY HE LIVED. IT WAS PART AND PARCEL OF THE WAY HE LIVED. CHARLIE SANG WHAT HE LIVED AND OF THE WAY HE LIVED. CHARLIE SANG WHAT HE LIVED AND LIVED WHAT HE SANG. CHARLIE SANG WHAT HE LIVED AND LIVED WHAT HE SANG. HE RAMBLED TILL LIVED WHAT HE SANG. HE RAMBLED TILL THE BUTCHERS CUT HIM DOWN HE RAMBLED TILL THE BUTCHERS CUT HIM DOWN Martin: BORN IN 1892 IN THE BUTCHERS CUT HIM DOWN Martin: BORN IN 1892 IN RANDOLPH COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA, Martin: BORN IN 1892 IN RANDOLPH COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA, CHARLES CLEVELAND POOLE GREW UP RANDOLPH COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA, CHARLES CLEVELAND POOLE GREW UP IN MILL COMPANY HOUSES WITH CHARLES CLEVELAND POOLE GREW UP IN MILL COMPANY HOUSES WITH HIS EIGHT BROTHERS AND A SISTER. IN MILL COMPANY HOUSES WITH HIS EIGHT BROTHERS AND A SISTER. CHARLIE STARTED IN THE MILLS HIS EIGHT BROTHERS AND A SISTER. CHARLIE STARTED IN THE MILLS AT AGE 9 AS A DOFFER BOY, CHARLIE STARTED IN THE MILLS AT AGE 9 AS A DOFFER BOY, WORKING 12-HOUR DAYS, BUT HE HAD AT AGE 9 AS A DOFFER BOY, WORKING 12-HOUR DAYS, BUT HE HAD A HOMEMADE BANJO AND WAS EAGER WORKING 12-HOUR DAYS, BUT HE HAD A HOMEMADE BANJO AND WAS EAGER TO USE IT IN THE LIVELY A HOMEMADE BANJO AND WAS EAGER TO USE IT IN THE LIVELY LOCAL MUSIC SCENE. TO USE IT IN THE LIVELY LOCAL MUSIC SCENE. Rorrer: THIS AREA OF NORTH LOCAL MUSIC SCENE. Rorrer: THIS AREA OF NORTH CENTRAL NORTH CAROLINA AND Rorrer: THIS AREA OF NORTH CENTRAL NORTH CAROLINA AND SOUTH CENTRAL VIRGINIA AND FROM CENTRAL NORTH CAROLINA AND SOUTH CENTRAL VIRGINIA AND FROM HERE WEST PROBABLY HAD MORE SOUTH CENTRAL VIRGINIA AND FROM HERE WEST PROBABLY HAD MORE BANJO PLAYERS AND FIDDLERS PER HERE WEST PROBABLY HAD MORE BANJO PLAYERS AND FIDDLERS PER SQUARE FOOT THAN ABOU BANJO PLAYERS AND FIDDLERS PER SQUARE FOOT THAN ABOU ANY PLACE IN THE COUNTRY. SQUARE FOOT THAN ABOU ANY PLACE IN THE COUNTRY. ANY PLACE IN THE COUNTRY. Rorrer: MILLS, I THINK, Rorrer: MILLS, I THINK, INADVERTENTLY, WITHOU Rorrer: MILLS, I THINK, INADVERTENTLY, WITHOU REALIZING IT, HELPED THIS MUSIC INADVERTENTLY, WITHOU REALIZING IT, HELPED THIS MUSIC DEVELOP BY BRINGING ALL REALIZING IT, HELPED THIS MUSIC DEVELOP BY BRINGING ALL THESE PEOPLE TOGETHER. DEVELOP BY BRINGING ALL THESE PEOPLE TOGETHER. AND THEY SWAPPED LICKS, THESE PEOPLE TOGETHER. AND THEY SWAPPED LICKS, THEY SWAPPED TUNES. [ OLD BANJO RECORDING PLAYS ] Rorrer: THEY HAD THESE, WHA WE WOULD NOW CLASSIFY AS A JUKEBOX, WE WOULD NOW CLASSIFY AS A JUKEBOX, THAT YOU WOULD HAVE FOUND A JUKEBOX, THAT YOU WOULD HAVE FOUND IN A GENERAL STORE THAT YOU WOULD HAVE FOUND IN A GENERAL STORE OR IN A SALOON. IN A GENERAL STORE OR IN A SALOON. SO IF CHARLIE POOLE AS OR IN A SALOON. SO IF CHARLIE POOLE AS A 10-YEAR-OLD BOY HAD AN EXTRA SO IF CHARLIE POOLE AS A 10-YEAR-OLD BOY HAD AN EXTRA PENNY OR EXTRA NICKEL AND HE A 10-YEAR-OLD BOY HAD AN EXTRA PENNY OR EXTRA NICKEL AND HE WENT IN THE COUNTRY STORE, HE PENNY OR EXTRA NICKEL AND HE WENT IN THE COUNTRY STORE, HE COULD HEAR A VESS OSSMAN WENT IN THE COUNTRY STORE, HE COULD HEAR A VESS OSSMAN BANJO RECORD. COULD HEAR A VESS OSSMAN BANJO RECORD. HE COULD HEAR A FRED VAN EPS BANJO RECORD. HE COULD HEAR A FRED VAN EPS BANJO RECORD HE COULD HEAR A FRED VAN EPS BANJO RECORD AND PICK UP WHATEVER SONG WAS BANJO RECORD AND PICK UP WHATEVER SONG WAS JUST OUT FROM TIN PAN ALLEY. Martin: BANJO TEACHERS THROUGHOUT THE SOUTH TAUGH THE CLASSIC GUITAR STYLE THROUGHOUT THE SOUTH TAUGH THE CLASSIC GUITAR STYLE PICKING. THE CLASSIC GUITAR STYLE PICKING. CHARLIE'S COUSIN, A LOCAL BANJO PICKING. CHARLIE'S COUSIN, A LOCAL BANJO HERO NAMED DANER JOHNSON, CHARLIE'S COUSIN, A LOCAL BANJO HERO NAMED DANER JOHNSON, LEARNED THAT TECHNIQUE AND HERO NAMED DANER JOHNSON, LEARNED THAT TECHNIQUE AND TAUGHT IT TO CHARLIE. CHARLIE'S UNIQUE BANJO PICKING STYLE, HOWEVER, WAS ULTIMATELY THE RESULT OF A DRUNKEN BET. Rorrer: CHARLIE HAD HAD A FEW DRINKS, AND HE BET A GUY 50 CENTS THA THE GUY COULD THROW A BALL AS HARD AS HE WANTED AND CHARLIE COULD CATCH IT WITH HIS BARE HANDS. SO THE GUY THREW THE BALL AND THE BALL HIT HIM RIGHT ACROSS THE FINGERS AND BROKE ALL THE BALL HIT HIM RIGHT ACROSS THE FINGERS AND BROKE ALL OF HIS FINGERS. THE FINGERS AND BROKE ALL OF HIS FINGERS. SO HIS FINGERS HEALED BACK OF HIS FINGERS. SO HIS FINGERS HEALED BACK CROOKED. SO HIS FINGERS HEALED BACK CROOKED. SO WHEN CHARLIE PUT HIS HAND CROOKED. SO WHEN CHARLIE PUT HIS HAND AGAINST THE BANJO, HE WAS SO WHEN CHARLIE PUT HIS HAND AGAINST THE BANJO, HE WAS ALREADY IN A PICKING POSITION. AGAINST THE BANJO, HE WAS ALREADY IN A PICKING POSITION. HE HAD A CROOK. MAY I SLEEP IN YOUR BARN TONIGHT, MISTER? IT'S TOO COLD LYING OU IN YOUR BARN TONIGHT, MISTER? IT'S TOO COLD LYING OU ON THE GROUND IT'S TOO COLD LYING OU ON THE GROUND Martin: RAMBLING WAS IN ON THE GROUND Martin: RAMBLING WAS IN HIS BLOOD AND ESSENTIAL TO Martin: RAMBLING WAS IN HIS BLOOD AND ESSENTIAL TO HIS SURVIVAL. HIS BLOOD AND ESSENTIAL TO HIS SURVIVAL. IT WAS THE ONLY WAY A HIS SURVIVAL. IT WAS THE ONLY WAY A PROFESSIONAL MUSICIAN COULD MAKE IT WAS THE ONLY WAY A PROFESSIONAL MUSICIAN COULD MAKE A LIVING IN THOSE DAYS. PROFESSIONAL MUSICIAN COULD MAKE A LIVING IN THOSE DAYS. IN COAL FIELDS, LUMBER CAMPS, A LIVING IN THOSE DAYS. IN COAL FIELDS, LUMBER CAMPS, AND GENERAL STORES FROM IN COAL FIELDS, LUMBER CAMPS, AND GENERAL STORES FROM NORTH CAROLINA TO MONTANA, AND GENERAL STORES FROM NORTH CAROLINA TO MONTANA, CHARLIE GRADUALLY BUILT A NAME NORTH CAROLINA TO MONTANA, CHARLIE GRADUALLY BUILT A NAME FOR HIMSELF. CHARLIE GRADUALLY BUILT A NAME FOR HIMSELF. HE ALSO BEFRIENDED A CLUBFOOTED FOR HIMSELF. HE ALSO BEFRIENDED A CLUBFOOTED YOUNG COAL MINER NAMED HE ALSO BEFRIENDED A CLUBFOOTED YOUNG COAL MINER NAMED POSEY RORRER, WHO SHARED HIS YOUNG COAL MINER NAMED POSEY RORRER, WHO SHARED HIS LOVE OF BOOZE, STRING BANDS, POSEY RORRER, WHO SHARED HIS LOVE OF BOOZE, STRING BANDS, AND RAMBLING. LOVE OF BOOZE, STRING BANDS, AND RAMBLING. POSEY, LIKE CHARLIE, STARTED AND RAMBLING. POSEY, LIKE CHARLIE, STARTED ON A HANDMADE BANJO, BUT SHOWED POSEY, LIKE CHARLIE, STARTED ON A HANDMADE BANJO, BUT SHOWED HIS REAL TALENTS ON A HANDMADE BANJO, BUT SHOWED HIS REAL TALENTS ON THE FIDDLE. HIS REAL TALENTS ON THE FIDDLE. WHEN YOU HEAR THEM PLAY ON THE FIDDLE. WHEN YOU HEAR THEM PLAY TOGETHER, THAT'S FROM YEARS OF WHEN YOU HEAR THEM PLAY TOGETHER, THAT'S FROM YEARS OF CONSTANTLY PLAYING TOGETHER. TOGETHER, THAT'S FROM YEARS OF CONSTANTLY PLAYING TOGETHER. EACH ONE KNEW WHAT THE OTHER CONSTANTLY PLAYING TOGETHER. EACH ONE KNEW WHAT THE OTHER WAS DOING EACH ONE KNEW WHAT THE OTHER WAS DOING AND THE RESULT WAS IT JUS WAS DOING AND THE RESULT WAS IT JUS DOVETAILED BEAUTIFULLY, BLENDED AND THE RESULT WAS IT JUS DOVETAILED BEAUTIFULLY, BLENDED BEAUTIFULLY. Martin: LINKED BY FRIENDSHIP, MUSIC AND THE BOTTLE, CHARLIE AND POSEY BECAME CLOSER MUSIC AND THE BOTTLE, CHARLIE AND POSEY BECAME CLOSER STILL WHEN CHARLIE MARRIED CHARLIE AND POSEY BECAME CLOSER STILL WHEN CHARLIE MARRIED POSEY'S OLDER SISTER LOU EMMA STILL WHEN CHARLIE MARRIED POSEY'S OLDER SISTER LOU EMMA AND SETTLED IN THE TOWN POSEY'S OLDER SISTER LOU EMMA AND SETTLED IN THE TOWN OF SPRAY. AND SETTLED IN THE TOWN OF SPRAY. SHE SUFFERED HIS WANDERLUST BU OF SPRAY. SHE SUFFERED HIS WANDERLUST BU REPEATEDLY BAILED HIM OUT OF SHE SUFFERED HIS WANDERLUST BU REPEATEDLY BAILED HIM OUT OF THE DRUNK TANK AND SENT HIM REPEATEDLY BAILED HIM OUT OF THE DRUNK TANK AND SENT HIM TRAIN FARE HOME. THE DRUNK TANK AND SENT HIM TRAIN FARE HOME. BUT AS SOON AS CHARLIE RETURNED TRAIN FARE HOME. BUT AS SOON AS CHARLIE RETURNED TO HIS OLD JOB IN THE SPINNING BUT AS SOON AS CHARLIE RETURNED TO HIS OLD JOB IN THE SPINNING ROOM, HE LOOKED FOR ANOTHER TO HIS OLD JOB IN THE SPINNING ROOM, HE LOOKED FOR ANOTHER EXCUSE TO ESCAPE. ROOM, HE LOOKED FOR ANOTHER EXCUSE TO ESCAPE. WE'RE GONNA DO YOU A SONG EXCUSE TO ESCAPE. WE'RE GONNA DO YOU A SONG THAT CHARLIE POOLE DID. WE'RE GONNA DO YOU A SONG THAT CHARLIE POOLE DID. CHARLIE AND POSEY USED TO PLAY THAT CHARLIE POOLE DID. CHARLIE AND POSEY USED TO PLAY BACK HERE IN FRONT OF THIS GRAY CHARLIE AND POSEY USED TO PLAY BACK HERE IN FRONT OF THIS GRAY MERCANTILE BUILDING. THIS IS CHARLIE'S BIGGEST HI FROM 1925. IT'S CALLED "DON'T LE YOUR DEAL GO DOWN." BEEN ALL AROUND THIS WHOLE WIDE WORLD DOWN TO MEMPHIS, TENNESSEE THIS WHOLE WIDE WORLD DOWN TO MEMPHIS, TENNESSEE Rorrer: ONE DAY IN 1925, DOWN TO MEMPHIS, TENNESSEE Rorrer: ONE DAY IN 1925, CHARLIE AND POSEY CAME IN TO Rorrer: ONE DAY IN 1925, CHARLIE AND POSEY CAME IN TO COLLECT THEIR PAY. CHARLIE AND POSEY CAME IN TO COLLECT THEIR PAY. HE SAID THEY WERE GOING TO COLLECT THEIR PAY. HE SAID THEY WERE GOING TO NEW YORK AND TRY THEIR HAND HE SAID THEY WERE GOING TO NEW YORK AND TRY THEIR HAND AT MAKING RECORDS. NEW YORK AND TRY THEIR HAND AT MAKING RECORDS. HIS BANJO WAS HIS TICKE AT MAKING RECORDS. HIS BANJO WAS HIS TICKE OUT OF THE MILLS. HIS BANJO WAS HIS TICKE OUT OF THE MILLS. Martin: WHEN HE FINALLY GO OUT OF THE MILLS. Martin: WHEN HE FINALLY GO TO THE COLUMBIA OFFICES Martin: WHEN HE FINALLY GO TO THE COLUMBIA OFFICES IN NEW YORK, ALL IT TOOK WERE TO THE COLUMBIA OFFICES IN NEW YORK, ALL IT TOOK WERE A FEW BARS OF "DON'T LE IN NEW YORK, ALL IT TOOK WERE A FEW BARS OF "DON'T LE YOUR DEAL GO DOWN" AND HE HAD A FEW BARS OF "DON'T LE YOUR DEAL GO DOWN" AND HE HAD A RECORDING CONTRACT. YOUR DEAL GO DOWN" AND HE HAD A RECORDING CONTRACT. Rorrer: THAT FIRST RECORD A RECORDING CONTRACT. Rorrer: THAT FIRST RECORD SOLD 102,000 COPIES. Rorrer: THAT FIRST RECORD SOLD 102,000 COPIES. IT WAS RELEASED IN SEPTEMBER SOLD 102,000 COPIES. IT WAS RELEASED IN SEPTEMBER IT WAS RELEASED IN SEPTEMBER NOW, WHAT YOU'VE GOT TO REMEMBER NOW, WHAT YOU'VE GOT TO REMEMBER IS, AT THAT TIMEANY RECORD NOW, WHAT YOU'VE GOT TO REMEMBER IS, AT THAT TIMEANY RECORD THAT SOLD OVER 5,000 COPIES WAS IS, AT THAT TIMEANY RECORD THAT SOLD OVER 5,000 COPIES WAS CONSIDERED A HIT. THAT SOLD OVER 5,000 COPIES WAS CONSIDERED A HIT. ANYTHING THAT SOLD 20,000 -- AND CONSIDERED A HIT. ANYTHING THAT SOLD 20,000 -- AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EVEN ANYTHING THAT SOLD 20,000 -- AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EVEN THE POP SINGERS -- IF IT SOLD WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EVEN THE POP SINGERS -- IF IT SOLD 20,000, IT WAS A MAJOR HIT. THE POP SINGERS -- IF IT SOLD 20,000, IT WAS A MAJOR HIT. WELL, FOR A COTTON MILL WORKER 20,000, IT WAS A MAJOR HIT. WELL, FOR A COTTON MILL WORKER FROM SPRAY, NORTH CAROLINA, TO WELL, FOR A COTTON MILL WORKER FROM SPRAY, NORTH CAROLINA, TO COME IN AND RECORD A RECORD THA FROM SPRAY, NORTH CAROLINA, TO COME IN AND RECORD A RECORD THA SOLD 102,000 COPIES COME IN AND RECORD A RECORD THA SOLD 102,000 COPIES WAS PHENOMENAL. SOLD 102,000 COPIES WAS PHENOMENAL. HE BECAME UNBELIEVABLY WAS PHENOMENAL. HE BECAME UNBELIEVABLY POPULAR BECAUSE OF HIS ABILITY HE BECAME UNBELIEVABLY POPULAR BECAUSE OF HIS ABILITY TO GIVE HIS AUDIENCE A SENSE POPULAR BECAUSE OF HIS ABILITY TO GIVE HIS AUDIENCE A SENSE THAT THEY WERE HEARING STUFF TO GIVE HIS AUDIENCE A SENSE THAT THEY WERE HEARING STUFF THAT WAS NEW AND NATTY AND THAT THEY WERE HEARING STUFF THAT WAS NEW AND NATTY AND EXCITING, BUT ALSO IN A TONALITY THAT WAS NEW AND NATTY AND EXCITING, BUT ALSO IN A TONALITY THAT WAS INCREDIBLY FAMILIAR. EXCITING, BUT ALSO IN A TONALITY THAT WAS INCREDIBLY FAMILIAR. [ SPINDLES CLICKING THAT WAS INCREDIBLY FAMILIAR. [ SPINDLES CLICKING RHYTHMICALLY ] Rorrer: THE NORTH CAROLINA RAMBLERS HAVE BEEN COMPARED TO LIKE A STRING ORCHESTRA. RAMBLERS HAVE BEEN COMPARED TO LIKE A STRING ORCHESTRA. THEIR MUSIC IS ALMOST LIKE LIKE A STRING ORCHESTRA. THEIR MUSIC IS ALMOST LIKE A METRONOME. THEIR MUSIC IS ALMOST LIKE A METRONOME. THE CLICKING BACK AND FORTH. A METRONOME. THE CLICKING BACK AND FORTH. THE TIMING IS IMPECCABLE. THE CLICKING BACK AND FORTH. THE TIMING IS IMPECCABLE. IT'S LIKE A SPINDLE IN THE TIMING IS IMPECCABLE. IT'S LIKE A SPINDLE IN THE LOOM FLYING BACK AND FORTH. IT'S LIKE A SPINDLE IN THE LOOM FLYING BACK AND FORTH. THE OLD LOOMS MAKE THE LOOM FLYING BACK AND FORTH. THE OLD LOOMS MAKE A "CLICK-CLACK, CLICK-CLACK," THE OLD LOOMS MAKE A "CLICK-CLACK, CLICK-CLACK," AS THE SPOOLS GO BACK AND FORTH, A "CLICK-CLACK, CLICK-CLACK," AS THE SPOOLS GO BACK AND FORTH, THE YARN SHOOTS BACK AND FORTH AS THE SPOOLS GO BACK AND FORTH, THE YARN SHOOTS BACK AND FORTH LIKE OUT OF A CANNON. AND YOU GET THIS KIND OF, YOU COULD PAT YOUR FEE TO THE SOUND, THE METRONOME YOU COULD PAT YOUR FEE TO THE SOUND, THE METRONOME SOUND THAT THE LOOMS ARE MAKING. TO THE SOUND, THE METRONOME SOUND THAT THE LOOMS ARE MAKING. I MEAN, EVERYTHING FLOWS AND SOUND THAT THE LOOMS ARE MAKING. I MEAN, EVERYTHING FLOWS AND INTERLOCKS, ALMOST LIKE I MEAN, EVERYTHING FLOWS AND INTERLOCKS, ALMOST LIKE A DOVETAILING. INTERLOCKS, ALMOST LIKE A DOVETAILING. CHARLIE IS PICKING THE BANJO THE A DOVETAILING. CHARLIE IS PICKING THE BANJO THE WAY ROY HARVEY IS PICKING CHARLIE IS PICKING THE BANJO THE WAY ROY HARVEY IS PICKING GUITAR, AND THEY'RE MAKING WAY ROY HARVEY IS PICKING GUITAR, AND THEY'RE MAKING BASICALLY THE SAME RUNS, GUITAR, AND THEY'RE MAKING BASICALLY THE SAME RUNS, THESE BASS RUNS. BASICALLY THE SAME RUNS, THESE BASS RUNS. AND SO THEY'RE RIGHT TOGETHER. THESE BASS RUNS. AND SO THEY'RE RIGHT TOGETHER. BOOM-BOOM-BOOM-BOOM AND SO THEY'RE RIGHT TOGETHER. BOOM-BOOM-BOOM-BOOM AS THEY GO THROUGH THE RECORD. SO, WHAT YOU ENDED UP WITH WAS THIS BEAUTIFUL OVERLAP OF ARPEGGIATED CHORDS, CREATING WAS THIS BEAUTIFUL OVERLAP OF ARPEGGIATED CHORDS, CREATING A KIND OF LITTLE CHAMBER TRIO. ARPEGGIATED CHORDS, CREATING A KIND OF LITTLE CHAMBER TRIO. Martin: CHARLIE'S NEW A KIND OF LITTLE CHAMBER TRIO. Martin: CHARLIE'S NEW CONTRACT WITH COLUMBIA GAVE HIM Martin: CHARLIE'S NEW CONTRACT WITH COLUMBIA GAVE HIM THE MONEY TO BUY ONE OF THE NEW CONTRACT WITH COLUMBIA GAVE HIM THE MONEY TO BUY ONE OF THE NEW GIBSON RB4 MASTERTONES, ONE OF THE MONEY TO BUY ONE OF THE NEW GIBSON RB4 MASTERTONES, ONE OF THE MOST COVETED BANJOS GIBSON RB4 MASTERTONES, ONE OF THE MOST COVETED BANJOS OF THE TIME. THE MOST COVETED BANJOS OF THE TIME. BUT INSTEAD OF GIVING POSEY HIS OF THE TIME. BUT INSTEAD OF GIVING POSEY HIS SHARE OF THE MONEY, CHARLIE BUT INSTEAD OF GIVING POSEY HIS SHARE OF THE MONEY, CHARLIE APPARENTLY DRANK UP THE RES SHARE OF THE MONEY, CHARLIE APPARENTLY DRANK UP THE RES OF THEIR ROYALTY PAYMENTS. APPARENTLY DRANK UP THE RES OF THEIR ROYALTY PAYMENTS. THE FALLING OUT DESTROYED OF THEIR ROYALTY PAYMENTS. THE FALLING OUT DESTROYED THEIR MUSICAL PARTNERSHIP AND THE FALLING OUT DESTROYED THEIR MUSICAL PARTNERSHIP AND THE TWO NEVER SPOKE AGAIN. THEIR MUSICAL PARTNERSHIP AND THE TWO NEVER SPOKE AGAIN. BY 1930, THE DEPRESSION WAS THE TWO NEVER SPOKE AGAIN. BY 1930, THE DEPRESSION WAS HAVING A DEVASTATING EFFEC BY 1930, THE DEPRESSION WAS HAVING A DEVASTATING EFFEC ON THE RURAL SOUTH. HAVING A DEVASTATING EFFEC ON THE RURAL SOUTH. RECORD SALES PLUNGED. ON THE RURAL SOUTH. RECORD SALES PLUNGED. AND AFTER A FINAL RECORDING RECORD SALES PLUNGED. AND AFTER A FINAL RECORDING SESSION IN NEW YORK, COLUMBIA AND AFTER A FINAL RECORDING SESSION IN NEW YORK, COLUMBIA DROPPED THE NORTH CAROLINA SESSION IN NEW YORK, COLUMBIA DROPPED THE NORTH CAROLINA RAMBLERS FROM ITS ROSTER. DROPPED THE NORTH CAROLINA RAMBLERS FROM ITS ROSTER. SO CHARLIE'S CAREER SEEMED TO RAMBLERS FROM ITS ROSTER. SO CHARLIE'S CAREER SEEMED TO BE KIND OF A DEAD END. SO CHARLIE'S CAREER SEEMED TO BE KIND OF A DEAD END. IN FACT, THINGS HAD GOTTEN SO BE KIND OF A DEAD END. IN FACT, THINGS HAD GOTTEN SO DIFFICULT FOR HIM, HE WENT BACK IN FACT, THINGS HAD GOTTEN SO DIFFICULT FOR HIM, HE WENT BACK TO THE MILLS TO WORK. DIFFICULT FOR HIM, HE WENT BACK TO THE MILLS TO WORK. FOR A FEW MONTHS, HE'D BE CLEAN, TO THE MILLS TO WORK. FOR A FEW MONTHS, HE'D BE CLEAN, HE'D BE SOBER, AND HE'D WORK. Martin: WITH THE COMING OF SOUND, HOLLYWOOD BEGAN CALLING ON POP MUSIC STARS IN EVERY SOUND, HOLLYWOOD BEGAN CALLING ON POP MUSIC STARS IN EVERY GENRE TO MAKE SHORT SOUND FILMS. HELLO, FOLKS. HOW 'BOUT A COUPLE OF GOOD OLD BANJO NUMBERS? WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO HEAR? "OH, SUSANNA!" [ PLAYING "OH, SUSANNA!" ] Rorrer: IN FEBRUARY OF 1931, HE GOT A LETTER FROM A MOVIE Rorrer: IN FEBRUARY OF 1931, HE GOT A LETTER FROM A MOVIE COMPANY. HE GOT A LETTER FROM A MOVIE COMPANY. THEY SENT HIM THE TRAIN TICKETS COMPANY. THEY SENT HIM THE TRAIN TICKETS AND THE CONTRACT TO COME TO THEY SENT HIM THE TRAIN TICKETS AND THE CONTRACT TO COME TO HOLLYWOOD AND PLAY BACKUP AND THE CONTRACT TO COME TO HOLLYWOOD AND PLAY BACKUP IN A MOVIE. HOLLYWOOD AND PLAY BACKUP IN A MOVIE. Martin: ONCE AGAIN, CHARLIE'S IN A MOVIE. Martin: ONCE AGAIN, CHARLIE'S MUSIC BECAME HIS TICKET OU Martin: ONCE AGAIN, CHARLIE'S MUSIC BECAME HIS TICKET OU OF THE MILLS, SO HE CELEBRATED MUSIC BECAME HIS TICKET OU OF THE MILLS, SO HE CELEBRATED BY EMBARKING ON AN EPIC BINGE OF THE MILLS, SO HE CELEBRATED BY EMBARKING ON AN EPIC BINGE OF DRINKING AND RAMBLING. 13 WEEKS LATER, HE WAS BACK IN SPRAY, WANDERING THE STREETS AND DRINKING FROM A FLASK IN SPRAY, WANDERING THE STREETS AND DRINKING FROM A FLASK OF RAW ALCOHOL. AND DRINKING FROM A FLASK OF RAW ALCOHOL. HE COLLAPSED ON HIS SISTER'S OF RAW ALCOHOL. HE COLLAPSED ON HIS SISTER'S PORCH AND DIED THAT EVENING, HE COLLAPSED ON HIS SISTER'S PORCH AND DIED THAT EVENING, THE TRAIN TICKETS TO HOLLYWOOD PORCH AND DIED THAT EVENING, THE TRAIN TICKETS TO HOLLYWOOD STILL PROPPED ON HIS DRESSER. THE TRAIN TICKETS TO HOLLYWOOD STILL PROPPED ON HIS DRESSER. HE WAS 39 YEARS OLD. Rorrer: WHEN THEY GOT WORD THAT CHARLIE HAD DIED, POSEY'S IMMEDIATE REACTION WAS, THAT CHARLIE HAD DIED, POSEY'S IMMEDIATE REACTION WAS, "IT'S A SHAME A MAN LIKE THA POSEY'S IMMEDIATE REACTION WAS, "IT'S A SHAME A MAN LIKE THA WOULD DRINK HIMSELF TO DEATH." FIVE YEARS LATER, POSEY HAD DONE THE SAME THING, HE DRANK HIMSELF TO DEATH. Sapoznik: WE NOW CAN STEP BACK AND SEE EVERYTHING HE DID AND SAY, "OH, MY GOD, HE WAS BACK AND SEE EVERYTHING HE DID AND SAY, "OH, MY GOD, HE WAS ANTICIPATING STUFF." AND SAY, "OH, MY GOD, HE WAS ANTICIPATING STUFF." HE'S DOING SOMETHING THAT IS ANTICIPATING STUFF." HE'S DOING SOMETHING THAT IS THE DNA OF BLUEGRASS BANJO. HE'S DOING SOMETHING THAT IS THE DNA OF BLUEGRASS BANJO. SO THOSE RECORDS WERE INCREDIBLY THE DNA OF BLUEGRASS BANJO. SO THOSE RECORDS WERE INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT WAY BEYOND THE MOMENT. SO THOSE RECORDS WERE INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT WAY BEYOND THE MOMENT. THOSE BECAME THE TEMPLATE IMPORTANT WAY BEYOND THE MOMENT. THOSE BECAME THE TEMPLATE FOR ALL THIS FUTURE PLAYING. THOSE BECAME THE TEMPLATE FOR ALL THIS FUTURE PLAYING. POOLE ACHIEVED NEAR LEGENDARY FOR ALL THIS FUTURE PLAYING. POOLE ACHIEVED NEAR LEGENDARY STATUS AS THE HARD-LIVING, POOLE ACHIEVED NEAR LEGENDARY STATUS AS THE HARD-LIVING, HELL-RAISING STATUS AS THE HARD-LIVING, HELL-RAISING "MILLBILLY" SONGSTER, HELL-RAISING "MILLBILLY" SONGSTER, THE PROTOTYPICAL COUNTRY MUSIC "MILLBILLY" SONGSTER, THE PROTOTYPICAL COUNTRY MUSIC STAR. THE PROTOTYPICAL COUNTRY MUSIC STAR. THE CRISP ROLLING SOUND OF STAR. THE CRISP ROLLING SOUND OF POOLE'S BANJO AS THE DRIVING THE CRISP ROLLING SOUND OF POOLE'S BANJO AS THE DRIVING FORCE OF A TIGHT STRING BAND POOLE'S BANJO AS THE DRIVING FORCE OF A TIGHT STRING BAND TRANSFORMED THE LOCAL FOLK STYLE FORCE OF A TIGHT STRING BAND TRANSFORMED THE LOCAL FOLK STYLE AND LAID THE FOUNDATION FOR TRANSFORMED THE LOCAL FOLK STYLE AND LAID THE FOUNDATION FOR A NEW GENRE OF POPULAR MUSIC AND LAID THE FOUNDATION FOR A NEW GENRE OF POPULAR MUSIC THAT WOULD COME TO BE KNOWN A NEW GENRE OF POPULAR MUSIC THAT WOULD COME TO BE KNOWN AS "BLUEGRASS." MY STORY AS A COLLECTOR STARTED AT A YOUNG AGE. I'D BEEN COLLECTING OBJECTS STARTED AT A YOUNG AGE. I'D BEEN COLLECTING OBJECTS SINCE I WAS 4 OR 5 YEARS OLD. I'D BEEN COLLECTING OBJECTS SINCE I WAS 4 OR 5 YEARS OLD. I HAVE THIS DEFECTIVE COLLECTING SINCE I WAS 4 OR 5 YEARS OLD. I HAVE THIS DEFECTIVE COLLECTING GENE THAT'S BEEN WITH ME I HAVE THIS DEFECTIVE COLLECTING GENE THAT'S BEEN WITH ME MY WHOLE LIFE. GENE THAT'S BEEN WITH ME MY WHOLE LIFE. THESE INSTRUMENTS WERE MADE MY WHOLE LIFE. THESE INSTRUMENTS WERE MADE PRIMARILY NOT TO BE PLAYED BUT THEY WERE MADE AS DESIGN EXERCISES TO BE USED IN EXHIBITIONS. THE COMPANIES VIED AT VARIOUS MECHANICS FAIRS AND EXHIBITIONS FOR PRIZES AND THEY WOULD USE THEIR GOLD MEDALS IN THEIR ADVERTISING. WELL, THESE PARTICULAR INSTRUMENTS, I THINK THEY SOR OF CHARACTERIZE VICTORIAN INSTRUMENTS, I THINK THEY SOR OF CHARACTERIZE VICTORIAN EXCESS. OF CHARACTERIZE VICTORIAN EXCESS. VERY FANCY, NEOCLASSICAL DESIGN. EXCESS. VERY FANCY, NEOCLASSICAL DESIGN. I COLLECTED OBJECTS. VERY FANCY, NEOCLASSICAL DESIGN. I COLLECTED OBJECTS. I BOUGHT A FEW BANJOS, AND I COLLECTED OBJECTS. I BOUGHT A FEW BANJOS, AND SUDDENLY I WAS A COLLECTOR AND I BOUGHT A FEW BANJOS, AND SUDDENLY I WAS A COLLECTOR AND FOUND THAT THERE WAS SUCH SUDDENLY I WAS A COLLECTOR AND FOUND THAT THERE WAS SUCH AN INCREDIBLE VARIETY OF FOUND THAT THERE WAS SUCH AN INCREDIBLE VARIETY OF INSTRUMENTS, AND SOME OF THEM AN INCREDIBLE VARIETY OF INSTRUMENTS, AND SOME OF THEM WERE SO BEAUTIFUL ESTHETICALLY INSTRUMENTS, AND SOME OF THEM WERE SO BEAUTIFUL ESTHETICALLY THAT I DECIDED THAT THAT'S WHA WERE SO BEAUTIFUL ESTHETICALLY THAT I DECIDED THAT THAT'S WHA I WANTED TO DO WITH MY LIFE, THAT I DECIDED THAT THAT'S WHA I WANTED TO DO WITH MY LIFE, IS LEARN MORE ABOUT THEM. I WANTED TO DO WITH MY LIFE, IS LEARN MORE ABOUT THEM. I'VE NEVER LOST MY PASSION FOR IS LEARN MORE ABOUT THEM. I'VE NEVER LOST MY PASSION FOR INSTRUMENTS AND I STILL GET, I'VE NEVER LOST MY PASSION FOR INSTRUMENTS AND I STILL GET, I THINK, JUST AS EXCITED OVER INSTRUMENTS AND I STILL GET, I THINK, JUST AS EXCITED OVER A RARE INSTRUMENT TURNING UP AS I THINK, JUST AS EXCITED OVER A RARE INSTRUMENT TURNING UP AS I DID 30 OR 40 YEARS AGO. OH, HAD I A GOLDEN THREAD AND NEEDLE SO FINE I'D WEAVE A MAGIC STRAND OF RAINBOW DESIGN THIS BANJO CAN DO THINGS OF RAINBOW DESIGN THIS BANJO CAN DO THINGS WHICH A GUITAR CAN'T DO. THIS BANJO CAN DO THINGS WHICH A GUITAR CAN'T DO. YOU CAN GET THESE NEEDLE POINTS WHICH A GUITAR CAN'T DO. YOU CAN GET THESE NEEDLE POINTS OF TONE. YOU CAN GET THESE NEEDLE POINTS OF TONE. NEEDLE POINTS ARE LIKE OF TONE. NEEDLE POINTS ARE LIKE A STAR IN THE SKY. YOU KNOW, THERE'S THOUSANDS OF STARS UP THERE, BUT YOU CAN PICK OUT A CONSTELLATION AMONG THEM, SO HERE YOU'RE HEARING A LOT OF NOTES, BUT SOMEHOW THERE'S A MELODY THERE, TOO. Martin: A LONG, TALL YANKEE WITH HIS LONG-NECK BANJO, ALWAYS CLAIMED THAT HE WAS MORE WITH HIS LONG-NECK BANJO, ALWAYS CLAIMED THAT HE WAS MORE CONCERNED WITH DOING GOOD CLAIMED THAT HE WAS MORE CONCERNED WITH DOING GOOD THAN PLAYING GOOD, BUT HE COULD CONCERNED WITH DOING GOOD THAN PLAYING GOOD, BUT HE COULD STILL PICK A MEAN BANJO. INSPIRED BY THE MUSIC HE HEARD ON THE FIELD RECORDINGS OF JOHN AND ALAN LOMAX, PETE ON THE FIELD RECORDINGS OF JOHN AND ALAN LOMAX, PETE EAGERLY ACCOMPANIED HIS FATHER, JOHN AND ALAN LOMAX, PETE EAGERLY ACCOMPANIED HIS FATHER, CHARLES, ON A ROAD TRIP SOUTH EAGERLY ACCOMPANIED HIS FATHER, CHARLES, ON A ROAD TRIP SOUTH TO HEAR REAL MOUNTAIN MUSIC. CHARLES, ON A ROAD TRIP SOUTH TO HEAR REAL MOUNTAIN MUSIC. BYE-BYE, BYE-BYE TO HEAR REAL MOUNTAIN MUSIC. BYE-BYE, BYE-BYE BYE-BYE BYE-BYE, BYE-BYE BYE-BYE BYE-BYE, MY WOMAN, I'M GONE BYE-BYE BYE-BYE, MY WOMAN, I'M GONE BYE-BYE, MY WOMAN, I'M GONE BYE-BYE, MY WOMAN, I'M GONE BYE-BYE, MY WOMAN, I'M GONE Martin: IN THE SUMMER OF BYE-BYE, MY WOMAN, I'M GONE Martin: IN THE SUMMER OF 1936, PETE SEEGER SAW Martin: IN THE SUMMER OF 1936, PETE SEEGER SAW THE FIVE-STRING BANJO PLAYED 1936, PETE SEEGER SAW THE FIVE-STRING BANJO PLAYED FOR THE FIRST TIME A THE FIVE-STRING BANJO PLAYED FOR THE FIRST TIME A THE NINTH ANNUAL FOLK SONG AND FOR THE FIRST TIME A THE NINTH ANNUAL FOLK SONG AND DANCE FESTIVAL IN ASHEVILLE, THE NINTH ANNUAL FOLK SONG AND DANCE FESTIVAL IN ASHEVILLE, NORTH CAROLINA. DANCE FESTIVAL IN ASHEVILLE, NORTH CAROLINA. THE SYMBOLIC CONNECTION BETWEEN NORTH CAROLINA. THE SYMBOLIC CONNECTION BETWEEN THE BANJO, THE PEOPLE WHO PLAYED THE SYMBOLIC CONNECTION BETWEEN THE BANJO, THE PEOPLE WHO PLAYED IT AND THE SONGS THEY PLAYED THE BANJO, THE PEOPLE WHO PLAYED IT AND THE SONGS THEY PLAYED LEFT A LASTING IMPRESSION. THE FESTIVAL WAS THE BRAINCHILD OF A COUNTRY LAWYER AND MUSICIAN NAMED BASCOM LAMAR LUNSFORD, WHO MADE IT HIS MISSION TO SAVE THE OLD MOUNTAIN MUSIC AND FOLKWAYS. HE HAD A GREAT BIG STAGE IN THE LOCAL BASEBALL PARK. ABOUT 2,000, 3,000 PEOPLE WERE THERE. AND HE'D GET A STRING BAND THERE. AND HE'D GET A STRING BAND PLAYING ON STAGE RIGHT, AND HE AND HE'D GET A STRING BAND PLAYING ON STAGE RIGHT, AND HE SAID, "NOW, YOU'RE ALL IN TUNE PLAYING ON STAGE RIGHT, AND HE SAID, "NOW, YOU'RE ALL IN TUNE WITH EACH OTHER AND YOU KNOW SAID, "NOW, YOU'RE ALL IN TUNE WITH EACH OTHER AND YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GONNA DO, AND WHEN WITH EACH OTHER AND YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GONNA DO, AND WHEN THE LIGHT COMES ON, WHAT YOU'RE GONNA DO, AND WHEN THE LIGHT COMES ON, YOU START PLAYING." THE LIGHT COMES ON, YOU START PLAYING." BASCOM LAMAR LUNSFORD WAS YOU START PLAYING." BASCOM LAMAR LUNSFORD WAS A VERY SAVVY CHARACTER AND WAS BASCOM LAMAR LUNSFORD WAS A VERY SAVVY CHARACTER AND WAS COMMODIFYING THE CULTURE FOR EASY CONSUMPTION, AND THA MADE IT VERY SIMPLE FOR PETE SEEGER TO COME DOWN AND FEEL THAT HE HAD PLUGGED INTO THIS. Martin: PETE TRANSFORMED HIMSELF INTO THE JOHNNY APPLESEED OF FOLK MUSIC. HIMSELF INTO THE JOHNNY APPLESEED OF FOLK MUSIC. THE INSTRUMENT HE CHOSE AS JOHNNY APPLESEED OF FOLK MUSIC. THE INSTRUMENT HE CHOSE AS HIS PLANTING TOOL WAS THE INSTRUMENT HE CHOSE AS HIS PLANTING TOOL WAS THE EMBODIMENT OF HIS POLITICAL HIS PLANTING TOOL WAS THE EMBODIMENT OF HIS POLITICAL MESSAGE. THE EMBODIMENT OF HIS POLITICAL MESSAGE. HE FOUND FERTILE GROUND AMONG MESSAGE. HE FOUND FERTILE GROUND AMONG YOUNG URBAN AUDIENCES. HE FOUND FERTILE GROUND AMONG YOUNG URBAN AUDIENCES. IT WAS AN ASTOUNDING TIME OF YOUNG URBAN AUDIENCES. IT WAS AN ASTOUNDING TIME OF SELF-INVENTION. IT WAS AN ASTOUNDING TIME OF SELF-INVENTION. THE IDEA OF BRINGING THE SELF-INVENTION. THE IDEA OF BRINGING THE SOUTHERN CULTURE TO THE URBAN THE IDEA OF BRINGING THE SOUTHERN CULTURE TO THE URBAN SETTING SET IN MOTION SOUTHERN CULTURE TO THE URBAN SETTING SET IN MOTION A CONTINUITY THAT IS SETTING SET IN MOTION A CONTINUITY THAT IS UNBROKEN TO TODAY. HELLO THERE, PETER. HOWDY. MIGHTY NICE MUSIC YOU'RE MAKING, PETE. OH, I'M JUST WARMING UP. WHAT'S THAT FUNNY-LOOKING GUITAR YOU'RE PLAYING? OH, THIS ISN'T A GUITAR. THIS IS A BANJO. TELL ME, IS THE BANJO SOMETHING NEW? NEW? ABOUT AS NEW AS AMERICA IS. Martin: IN PETE'S HANDS, THE FIVE-STRING BANJO TOOK ON NEW MEANING AND NEW USES. THE FIVE-STRING BANJO TOOK ON NEW MEANING AND NEW USES. IT BECAME A METAPHOR FOR NEW MEANING AND NEW USES. IT BECAME A METAPHOR FOR THE RURAL WORKING CLASS AND IT BECAME A METAPHOR FOR THE RURAL WORKING CLASS AND A TOOL FOR EXPRESSING THE THE RURAL WORKING CLASS AND A TOOL FOR EXPRESSING THE PLIGHT OF THE UNDERDOG. A TOOL FOR EXPRESSING THE PLIGHT OF THE UNDERDOG. PETE'S BANJO RANG OUT A PLIGHT OF THE UNDERDOG. PETE'S BANJO RANG OUT A UNION RALLIES AND LEFT-WING PETE'S BANJO RANG OUT A UNION RALLIES AND LEFT-WING HOOTENANNIES AS HE PLAYED WITH UNION RALLIES AND LEFT-WING HOOTENANNIES AS HE PLAYED WITH THE ALMANAC SINGERS. HOOTENANNIES AS HE PLAYED WITH THE ALMANAC SINGERS. I DON'T WAN THE ALMANAC SINGERS. I DON'T WAN YOUR MILLIONS, MISTER I DON'T WAN YOUR MILLIONS, MISTER I DON'T WAN YOUR MILLIONS, MISTER I DON'T WAN YOUR DIAMOND RING I DON'T WAN YOUR DIAMOND RING ALL I WAN YOUR DIAMOND RING ALL I WAN IS THE RIGHT TO LIVE, MISTER ALL I WAN IS THE RIGHT TO LIVE, MISTER GIVE ME BACK IS THE RIGHT TO LIVE, MISTER GIVE ME BACK MY JOB AGAIN GIVE ME BACK MY JOB AGAIN Martin: AT A BENEFIT FOR MY JOB AGAIN Martin: AT A BENEFIT FOR FARM WORKERS, PETE ME Martin: AT A BENEFIT FOR FARM WORKERS, PETE ME AN INSPIRATIONAL HILLBILLY FARM WORKERS, PETE ME AN INSPIRATIONAL HILLBILLY SONGWRITER NAMED WOODY GUTHRIE, AN INSPIRATIONAL HILLBILLY SONGWRITER NAMED WOODY GUTHRIE, WHO SOON JOINED THE ALMANACS. SONGWRITER NAMED WOODY GUTHRIE, WHO SOON JOINED THE ALMANACS. HITCHHIKING AND HOBOING ACROSS WHO SOON JOINED THE ALMANACS. HITCHHIKING AND HOBOING ACROSS COUNTRY WITH WOODY, PETE LEARNED HITCHHIKING AND HOBOING ACROSS COUNTRY WITH WOODY, PETE LEARNED THAT ANYTHING WORTH STRUGGLING COUNTRY WITH WOODY, PETE LEARNED THAT ANYTHING WORTH STRUGGLING FOR WAS WORTH SINGING ABOUT. THAT ANYTHING WORTH STRUGGLING FOR WAS WORTH SINGING ABOUT. IT WAS A VALUABLE LESSON ABOU FOR WAS WORTH SINGING ABOUT. IT WAS A VALUABLE LESSON ABOU THE PURPOSE AND POWER OF IT WAS A VALUABLE LESSON ABOU THE PURPOSE AND POWER OF FOLK SONGS. I DIDN'T REALLY KNOW HOW TO PLAY THE BANJO, TILL I SPENT FOUR MONTHS IN TO PLAY THE BANJO, TILL I SPENT FOUR MONTHS IN THE SOUTH HITCHHIKING AROUND. EVERY TIME I RAN INTO A BANJO PICKER, I'D WATCH CLOSELY. AND TRY AND FIGURE OU WHAT HE WAS DOING. AND THAT'S WHEN I FOUND OU ABOUT FRAILING. Martin: FOR THE MINSTREL WITH A MISSION, FOLK MUSIC WAS NO JUST ABOUT COLLECTING OLD SONGS, BUT CREATING AND SPREADING NEW ONES BY EVERY AVAILABLE MEANS. FIRST I'LL ASSUME THAT YOU KNOW HOW TO TUNE A BANJO. [ TUNING ] KNOW HOW TO TUNE A BANJO. [ TUNING ] Martin: IN 1948, HE WROTE [ TUNING ] Martin: IN 1948, HE WROTE A PIONEERING BANJO MANUAL. Martin: IN 1948, HE WROTE A PIONEERING BANJO MANUAL. AND LATER IN THE '50s, FOLLOWED A PIONEERING BANJO MANUAL. AND LATER IN THE '50s, FOLLOWED IT WITH AN INSTRUCTIONAL LP AND LATER IN THE '50s, FOLLOWED IT WITH AN INSTRUCTIONAL LP AND EVEN A 16-MILLIMETER IT WITH AN INSTRUCTIONAL LP AND EVEN A 16-MILLIMETER FILM LOOP. NOW, PLACE THE FINGERS OF YOUR LEFT HAND FIRMLY SO. AND THAT SHOULD MAKE A C CHORD. I REALIZED I WANTED TO TEACH PEOPLE DIFFERENT WAYS OF PLAYING IT. PEOPLE DIFFERENT WAYS OF PLAYING IT. SOMETIMES YOU KIND OF STRUM IT. PLAYING IT. SOMETIMES YOU KIND OF STRUM IT. THAT'S WHERE I SAID, SOMETIMES YOU KIND OF STRUM IT. THAT'S WHERE I SAID, GET "BUMP-DITTY." AND THEN I SHOWED HOW YOU GE AN EXTRA NOTE WITH YOUR LEFT HAND. I CALLED IT "HAMMERING ON." DID YOU INVENT THAT TERM? I INVENTED THAT WORD. DID YOU INVENT THAT TERM? I INVENTED THAT WORD. IT'S USED THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE I INVENTED THAT WORD. IT'S USED THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE IT'S USED THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE BY GUITAR PICKERS NOW. BY GUITAR PICKERS NOW. IF YOU COME DOWN ON A STRING, BY GUITAR PICKERS NOW. IF YOU COME DOWN ON A STRING, GET A NOTE WITH YOUR LEFT HAND, IF YOU COME DOWN ON A STRING, GET A NOTE WITH YOUR LEFT HAND, IT'S CALLED "HAMMERING ON." GET A NOTE WITH YOUR LEFT HAND, IT'S CALLED "HAMMERING ON." AND I INVENTED THE WORD IT'S CALLED "HAMMERING ON." AND I INVENTED THE WORD "PULLING OFF." AND I INVENTED THE WORD "PULLING OFF." MY MOTHER SAID, "THAT'S CALLED "PULLING OFF." MY MOTHER SAID, "THAT'S CALLED LEFT-HAND PIZZICATO." MY MOTHER SAID, "THAT'S CALLED LEFT-HAND PIZZICATO." THAT'S WHAT VIOLINISTS CALL IT. LEFT-HAND PIZZICATO." THAT'S WHAT VIOLINISTS CALL IT. I SAID, "EH, I CALL I THAT'S WHAT VIOLINISTS CALL IT. I SAID, "EH, I CALL I 'PULLING OFF.'" I SAID, "EH, I CALL I 'PULLING OFF.'" Martin: FOR A GENERATION 'PULLING OFF.'" Martin: FOR A GENERATION GROWING UP IN THE '50s, Martin: FOR A GENERATION GROWING UP IN THE '50s, MYSELF INCLUDED, PETE'S GROWING UP IN THE '50s, MYSELF INCLUDED, PETE'S HOMEMADE MANUAL WAS MYSELF INCLUDED, PETE'S HOMEMADE MANUAL WAS AN OPEN SESAME TO A NEW WORLD HOMEMADE MANUAL WAS AN OPEN SESAME TO A NEW WORLD OF MUSICAL POSSIBILITIES. CHILDREN, GO WHERE I SEND THEE HOW SHALL I SEND THEE? GUESS WHO BOUGHT ONE OF THOSE COPIES? A STUDENT AT STANFORD THOSE COPIES? A STUDENT AT STANFORD NAMED DAVE GUARD. A STUDENT AT STANFORD NAMED DAVE GUARD. AND A YEAR LATER, I GE NAMED DAVE GUARD. AND A YEAR LATER, I GE A LETTER. AND A YEAR LATER, I GE A LETTER. "PETE, I'VE BEEN PUTTING THA A LETTER. "PETE, I'VE BEEN PUTTING THA BOOK TO HARD USE. "PETE, I'VE BEEN PUTTING THA BOOK TO HARD USE. I AND TWO OTHERS HAVE A GROUP BOOK TO HARD USE. I AND TWO OTHERS HAVE A GROUP WE CALL THE KINGSTON TRIO." I AND TWO OTHERS HAVE A GROUP WE CALL THE KINGSTON TRIO." ONE FOR THE WE CALL THE KINGSTON TRIO." ONE FOR THE LITTLE-BITTY BABY ONE FOR THE LITTLE-BITTY BABY SO, LIKE IT OR NOT, YOU'VE LITTLE-BITTY BABY SO, LIKE IT OR NOT, YOU'VE INFLUENCED A WHOLE GENERATION SO, LIKE IT OR NOT, YOU'VE INFLUENCED A WHOLE GENERATION OR TWO OF BANJO PLAYERS, INFLUENCED A WHOLE GENERATION OR TWO OF BANJO PLAYERS, I GUESS. OR TWO OF BANJO PLAYERS, I GUESS. IT WAS THE MOST IMPORTAN I GUESS. IT WAS THE MOST IMPORTAN THING I'D EVER DID IN MY LIFE, IT WAS THE MOST IMPORTAN THING I'D EVER DID IN MY LIFE, WAS WHAT I DID IN THE '50s. THING I'D EVER DID IN MY LIFE, WAS WHAT I DID IN THE '50s. I COULD HAVE KICKED THE BUCKE WAS WHAT I DID IN THE '50s. I COULD HAVE KICKED THE BUCKE IN 1960, AND MY MAIN WORK ON I COULD HAVE KICKED THE BUCKE IN 1960, AND MY MAIN WORK ON THIS WORLD HAD BEEN DONE. IN 1960, AND MY MAIN WORK ON THIS WORLD HAD BEEN DONE. NOW, IF YOU HAD PATIENCE THIS WORLD HAD BEEN DONE. NOW, IF YOU HAD PATIENCE TO SIT THROUGH 25 MINUTES OF NOW, IF YOU HAD PATIENCE TO SIT THROUGH 25 MINUTES OF THIS BANJO AND ME, I GUESS YOU TO SIT THROUGH 25 MINUTES OF THIS BANJO AND ME, I GUESS YOU MUST REALLY WANT TO LEARN HOW TO THIS BANJO AND ME, I GUESS YOU MUST REALLY WANT TO LEARN HOW TO PLAY THE INSTRUMENT. ZENA, ZENA, ZENA, ZENA CAN'T YOU HEAR THE MUSIC PLAYING IN THE CITY SQUARE? CAN'T YOU HEAR THE MUSIC PLAYING IN THE CITY SQUARE? Martin: BETWEEN 1950 AND IN THE CITY SQUARE? Martin: BETWEEN 1950 AND 1952, PETE SEEGER AND HIS Martin: BETWEEN 1950 AND 1952, PETE SEEGER AND HIS BANDMATES IN THE WEAVERS SOLD 1952, PETE SEEGER AND HIS BANDMATES IN THE WEAVERS SOLD OVER 4 MILLION RECORDS WITH BANDMATES IN THE WEAVERS SOLD OVER 4 MILLION RECORDS WITH THEIR INTERPRETATIONS OF OVER 4 MILLION RECORDS WITH THEIR INTERPRETATIONS OF FOLK SONGS LIKE THEIR INTERPRETATIONS OF FOLK SONGS LIKE "GOOD NIGHT, IRENE," FOLK SONGS LIKE "GOOD NIGHT, IRENE," "ZENA ZENA," AND "GOOD NIGHT, IRENE," "ZENA ZENA," AND "KISSES SWEETER THAN WINE." "ZENA ZENA," AND "KISSES SWEETER THAN WINE." IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN A TRIUMPHAN "KISSES SWEETER THAN WINE." IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN A TRIUMPHAN TIME FOR THEM. IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN A TRIUMPHAN TIME FOR THEM. WHILE THE WEAVERS' COMMERCIAL TIME FOR THEM. WHILE THE WEAVERS' COMMERCIAL SUCCESS SPARKED MAINSTREAM WHILE THE WEAVERS' COMMERCIAL SUCCESS SPARKED MAINSTREAM INTEREST IN FOLK MUSIC, THEIR SUCCESS SPARKED MAINSTREAM INTEREST IN FOLK MUSIC, THEIR POLITICAL CAUSES AND PAS INTEREST IN FOLK MUSIC, THEIR POLITICAL CAUSES AND PAS ASSOCIATIONS DREW THE ATTENTION POLITICAL CAUSES AND PAS ASSOCIATIONS DREW THE ATTENTION OF THE HOUSE UN-AMERICAN ASSOCIATIONS DREW THE ATTENTION OF THE HOUSE UN-AMERICAN ACTIVITIES COMMITTEE. OF THE HOUSE UN-AMERICAN ACTIVITIES COMMITTEE. WE FIND IN SOME OF OUR ACTIVITIES COMMITTEE. WE FIND IN SOME OF OUR LONG-PLAYING ALBUMS WE FIND IN SOME OF OUR LONG-PLAYING ALBUMS SUCH MUSICAL COMBINATIONS AS LONG-PLAYING ALBUMS SUCH MUSICAL COMBINATIONS AS THE WEAVERS. SUCH MUSICAL COMBINATIONS AS THE WEAVERS. THIS PARTICULAR ALBUM, THE WEAVERS. THIS PARTICULAR ALBUM, "THE WEAVERS ON TOUR." THIS PARTICULAR ALBUM, "THE WEAVERS ON TOUR." THREE OF THESE PEOPLE MENTIONED "THE WEAVERS ON TOUR." THREE OF THESE PEOPLE MENTIONED IN GOVERNMENT PUBLICATIONS THREE OF THESE PEOPLE MENTIONED IN GOVERNMENT PUBLICATIONS AS HAVING BEEN IDENTIFIED AS IN GOVERNMENT PUBLICATIONS AS HAVING BEEN IDENTIFIED AS MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNIS AS HAVING BEEN IDENTIFIED AS MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNIS CONSPIRACY. MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNIS CONSPIRACY. AND NOW WE ARE CONCERNED THA CONSPIRACY. AND NOW WE ARE CONCERNED THA THE COMMUNISTS ARE MOVING INTO AND NOW WE ARE CONCERNED THA THE COMMUNISTS ARE MOVING INTO THIS FIELD AND THAT THEY'RE THE COMMUNISTS ARE MOVING INTO THIS FIELD AND THAT THEY'RE GOING TO PERVERT THIS WONDERFUL THIS FIELD AND THAT THEY'RE GOING TO PERVERT THIS WONDERFUL FORM OF ENTERTAINMEN GOING TO PERVERT THIS WONDERFUL FORM OF ENTERTAINMEN SO IT WILL SATISFY FORM OF ENTERTAINMEN SO IT WILL SATISFY THEIR OWN NEEDS. SO IT WILL SATISFY THEIR OWN NEEDS. Martin: THE FBI'S CAMPAIGN TO THEIR OWN NEEDS. Martin: THE FBI'S CAMPAIGN TO BLACKLIST THE WEAVERS CAUSED Martin: THE FBI'S CAMPAIGN TO BLACKLIST THE WEAVERS CAUSED THEIR TOURS AND RECORDING DEALS BLACKLIST THE WEAVERS CAUSED THEIR TOURS AND RECORDING DEALS TO BE CANCELED. THEIR TOURS AND RECORDING DEALS TO BE CANCELED. ALL DURING THE '50s, I WAS TO BE CANCELED. ALL DURING THE '50s, I WAS BLACKLISTED FROM COMMERCIAL ALL DURING THE '50s, I WAS BLACKLISTED FROM COMMERCIAL WORK, BUT I WENT FROM COLLEGE TO BLACKLISTED FROM COMMERCIAL WORK, BUT I WENT FROM COLLEGE TO COLLEGE TO COLLEGE TO COLLEGE WORK, BUT I WENT FROM COLLEGE TO COLLEGE TO COLLEGE TO COLLEGE TO COLLEGE. COLLEGE TO COLLEGE TO COLLEGE TO COLLEGE. I SHOWED A WHOLE BATCH OF PEOPLE TO COLLEGE. I SHOWED A WHOLE BATCH OF PEOPLE THE SONGS OF WOODY GUTHRIE I SHOWED A WHOLE BATCH OF PEOPLE THE SONGS OF WOODY GUTHRIE AND LEADBELLY AND SAID, "THERE'S THE SONGS OF WOODY GUTHRIE AND LEADBELLY AND SAID, "THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT MUSIC IN THIS AND LEADBELLY AND SAID, "THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT MUSIC IN THIS COUNTRY THAT YOU HARDLY EVER A LOT OF GREAT MUSIC IN THIS COUNTRY THAT YOU HARDLY EVER HEAR ON THE RADIO." COUNTRY THAT YOU HARDLY EVER HEAR ON THE RADIO." RAILROAD BILL HEAR ON THE RADIO." RAILROAD BILL RAILROAD BILL RAILROAD BILL RAILROAD BILL HE NEVER WORKED RAILROAD BILL HE NEVER WORKED AND HE NEVER EVER WILL HE NEVER WORKED AND HE NEVER EVER WILL Martin: FOR YEARS AFTER AND HE NEVER EVER WILL Martin: FOR YEARS AFTER THE BLACKLIST, THE NETWORKS Martin: FOR YEARS AFTER THE BLACKLIST, THE NETWORKS BANNED HIM FROM TELEVISION, THE BLACKLIST, THE NETWORKS BANNED HIM FROM TELEVISION, INCLUDING SOME OF THE SAME SHOWS BANNED HIM FROM TELEVISION, INCLUDING SOME OF THE SAME SHOWS THAT HIS MUSIC HAD INSPIRED. BUT HE MANAGED TO GET HIS OWN PUBLIC ACCESS SHOW, AND WITH HIS TIRELESS APPEARANCES AT FOLK PUBLIC ACCESS SHOW, AND WITH HIS TIRELESS APPEARANCES AT FOLK FESTIVALS, CIVIL RIGHTS TIRELESS APPEARANCES AT FOLK FESTIVALS, CIVIL RIGHTS DEMONSTRATIONS, AND IN PRINT, FESTIVALS, CIVIL RIGHTS DEMONSTRATIONS, AND IN PRINT, SEEGER PASSED ALONG HIS PASSION DEMONSTRATIONS, AND IN PRINT, SEEGER PASSED ALONG HIS PASSION FOR RURAL FOLK MUSIC TO SEEGER PASSED ALONG HIS PASSION FOR RURAL FOLK MUSIC TO A NEW GENERATION OF MUSICIANS FOR RURAL FOLK MUSIC TO A NEW GENERATION OF MUSICIANS AND FANS. HIS MESSAGE IS WRITTEN ON HIS BANJO. Seeger: WOODY WENT THROUGH WORLD WAR II WITH A SIGN ON HIS GUITAR SAYING, WORLD WAR II WITH A SIGN ON HIS GUITAR SAYING, "THIS MACHINE KILLS FASCISTS." HIS GUITAR SAYING, "THIS MACHINE KILLS FASCISTS." I WAS THINKING OVER THAT SIGN "THIS MACHINE KILLS FASCISTS." I WAS THINKING OVER THAT SIGN AND I DECIDED TO MAKE SOMETHING I WAS THINKING OVER THAT SIGN AND I DECIDED TO MAKE SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT MORE PEACEFUL. AND I DECIDED TO MAKE SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT MORE PEACEFUL. HERE, YOU CAN READ IT. A LITTLE BIT MORE PEACEFUL. HERE, YOU CAN READ IT. "THIS MACHINE SURROUNDS HATE HERE, YOU CAN READ IT. "THIS MACHINE SURROUNDS HATE AND FORCES IT TO SURRENDER." "THIS MACHINE SURROUNDS HATE AND FORCES IT TO SURRENDER." I HOPE. AND FORCES IT TO SURRENDER." I HOPE. YOU NEVER CAN TELL. [ APPLAUSE ] FINE LITTLE DARLIN'. THANK YOU SO MUCH. FINE LITTLE DARLIN'. THANK YOU SO MUCH. TIME FOR SOME FIVE-STRING THANK YOU SO MUCH. TIME FOR SOME FIVE-STRING BANJO PICKIN' NOW. TIME FOR SOME FIVE-STRING BANJO PICKIN' NOW. WE'RE GONNA CALL ON A FELLOW BANJO PICKIN' NOW. WE'RE GONNA CALL ON A FELLOW THAT CAN DO JUST THAT. WE'RE GONNA CALL ON A FELLOW THAT CAN DO JUST THAT. MY BUDDY EARL SCRUGGS WITH THAT CAN DO JUST THAT. MY BUDDY EARL SCRUGGS WITH A TUNE CALLED MY BUDDY EARL SCRUGGS WITH A TUNE CALLED "THE RANDY LYNN RAG." A TUNE CALLED "THE RANDY LYNN RAG." EARL? BACK WHEN EARL FIRS CAME ALONG AND THE BANJO WAS BEING PLAYED IN THE FRAILING CAME ALONG AND THE BANJO WAS BEING PLAYED IN THE FRAILING STYLE AND TWO-FINGER STYLE AND BEING PLAYED IN THE FRAILING STYLE AND TWO-FINGER STYLE AND WAS CONSIDERED MORE OF A PROP BUT WASN'T TAKEN SERIOUSLY AS A MUSICAL INSTRUMENT. BUT EARL CHANGED ALL THAT. IT BECAME A VERY DEFINITE MUSICAL INSTRUMENT IN HIS HANDS. WHEN EARL GOT IN THERE, THAT TURNED IT ALTOGETHER AROUND, JUST LIKE DAYLIGH AND NIGHT WITH THE MUSIC. IT JUST MADE IT A DIFFEREN SOUND T-TOTALLY. AND GOODNESS GRACIOUS, IT'S GOOD. Martin: BORN IN 1924, EARL SCRUGGS GREW UP ON A SMALL FARM OUTSIDE EARL SCRUGGS GREW UP ON A SMALL FARM OUTSIDE THE MILL TOWN OF SHELBY, A SMALL FARM OUTSIDE THE MILL TOWN OF SHELBY, NORTH CAROLINA. THE MILL TOWN OF SHELBY, NORTH CAROLINA. IT WAS ONE OF THE FEW PARTS OF NORTH CAROLINA. IT WAS ONE OF THE FEW PARTS OF THE COUNTRY WHERE THE IT WAS ONE OF THE FEW PARTS OF THE COUNTRY WHERE THE FIVE-STRING BANJO WAS STILL THE COUNTRY WHERE THE FIVE-STRING BANJO WAS STILL AN ACTIVE PART OF THE CULTURE. FIVE-STRING BANJO WAS STILL AN ACTIVE PART OF THE CULTURE. THERE'S A PICTURE OF AN ACTIVE PART OF THE CULTURE. THERE'S A PICTURE OF HORACE AND EARL WHEN THEY WERE THERE'S A PICTURE OF HORACE AND EARL WHEN THEY WERE LITTLE BOYS, 5 AND 6 YEARS OLD. HORACE WITH A GUITAR AND EARL WITH A BANJO, PLAYING UNDER ONE OF THESE TREES. I BELIEVE IT'S THIS ONE. THE WAY HORACE TELLS ME, THEY WOULD START AT ONE END OF THE HOUSE. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY STARTED ON THE FRONT OR THE BACK. THEY WOULD START OUT BACK TO BACK AND THEY WOULD PLAY A SONG TOGETHER. BACK AND THEY WOULD PLAY A SONG TOGETHER. AND THE ONE THAT I RECALL A SONG TOGETHER. AND THE ONE THAT I RECALL HORACE TALKING ABOUT WAS AND THE ONE THAT I RECALL HORACE TALKING ABOUT WAS "SALLY GOODIN" ACTUALLY. HORACE TALKING ABOUT WAS "SALLY GOODIN" ACTUALLY. SO ONE WOULD WALK THIS WAY AND "SALLY GOODIN" ACTUALLY. SO ONE WOULD WALK THIS WAY AND ONE WOULD WALK THAT WAY AND THEY SO ONE WOULD WALK THIS WAY AND ONE WOULD WALK THAT WAY AND THEY WOULD GO ALL THE WAY AROUND THE ONE WOULD WALK THAT WAY AND THEY WOULD GO ALL THE WAY AROUND THE HOUSE. WOULD GO ALL THE WAY AROUND THE HOUSE. THEY WOULD PLAY AND HOPE TO BE HOUSE. THEY WOULD PLAY AND HOPE TO BE IN TIME WITH EACH OTHER THEY WOULD PLAY AND HOPE TO BE IN TIME WITH EACH OTHER WHEN THEY GOT AROUND TO IN TIME WITH EACH OTHER WHEN THEY GOT AROUND TO THE BACK SIDE OF THE HOUSE. WHEN THEY GOT AROUND TO THE BACK SIDE OF THE HOUSE. WHEN THEY GOT AROUND HERE THE BACK SIDE OF THE HOUSE. WHEN THEY GOT AROUND HERE TO THE BACK, IF THEY WERE IN WHEN THEY GOT AROUND HERE TO THE BACK, IF THEY WERE IN PERFECT TIME, THAT WAS GREAT. TO THE BACK, IF THEY WERE IN PERFECT TIME, THAT WAS GREAT. IF THEY WEREN'T, THEY'D PU PERFECT TIME, THAT WAS GREAT. IF THEY WEREN'T, THEY'D PU THEIR BACKS TO EACH OTHER AGAIN IF THEY WEREN'T, THEY'D PU THEIR BACKS TO EACH OTHER AGAIN AND THEY'D GO AROUND, AND I'M THEIR BACKS TO EACH OTHER AGAIN AND THEY'D GO AROUND, AND I'M SURE THAT THEY WORE OUT A PATH AND THEY'D GO AROUND, AND I'M SURE THAT THEY WORE OUT A PATH ALL THE WAY AROUND THIS HOUSE SURE THAT THEY WORE OUT A PATH ALL THE WAY AROUND THIS HOUSE GETTING THAT TIMING RIGHT. DO YOU READ MUSIC? NO, I DON'T. WELL, HOW DO YOU DEVELOP SOMETHING SO COMPLICATED? WELL, I STARTED PLAYING LIKE WHEN I WAS 5 YEARS OLD. UH, AND, UH... I'VE PRETTY WELL LIVED AND BREATHED THE BANJO ALL THE WAY. SO, A LOT OF IT... WELL, MOST OF IT IS SELF-TAUGHT, YOU MIGHT SAY. Martin: THE STYLE THA ULTIMATELY REVIVED THE FIVE-STRING BANJO EMERGED WHEN ULTIMATELY REVIVED THE FIVE-STRING BANJO EMERGED WHEN 10-YEAR-OLD EARL WAS COOLING HIS FIVE-STRING BANJO EMERGED WHEN 10-YEAR-OLD EARL WAS COOLING HIS TEMPER AFTER A BROTHERLY 10-YEAR-OLD EARL WAS COOLING HIS TEMPER AFTER A BROTHERLY ARGUMENT. TEMPER AFTER A BROTHERLY ARGUMENT. I WAS SITTING IN THAT ROOM, ARGUMENT. I WAS SITTING IN THAT ROOM, JUST BY MYSELF ONE DAY, PLAYING I WAS SITTING IN THAT ROOM, JUST BY MYSELF ONE DAY, PLAYING "REUBEN." AND ALL OF THE SUDDEN, I REALIZED THAT I HAD THE OTHER FINGER GOING, PLAYING "REUBEN." AND, BOY, THAT REALLY SHOCKED ME. I DIDN'T KNOW WHERE IT CAME FROM OR ANYTHING. I KNEW WHAT I WAS PLAYING WITH THE THUMB AND ONE FINGER WAS... I COULDN'T GET A ROLL THA SUITED ME JUST RIGHT. AND THEN ALL OF THE SUDDEN, I STARTED USING THA MIDDLE FINGER. Martin: EARL RECALLED SEVERAL PICKERS IN THE COMMUNITY WHO MADE LASTING IMPRESSIONS. A DISTANT COUSIN NAMED SMITH HAMMETT WHO VISITED OFTEN WITH A LITTLE BANJO THAT EARL WAS ABLE TO HOLD AND MAKE CHORDS ON. DEWITT "SNUFFY" JENKINS, WHOSE POPULAR RADIO PERFORMANCES WERE SPONSORED BY A PATEN MEDICINE COMPANY. HE WAS THE FIRST THREE-FINGER PICKER EARL HEARD ON THE RADIO. AND THERE WAS ANOTHER YOUNG CAROLINA BANJO PHENOM BY THE NAME OF DON RENO, WHO WAS CAROLINA BANJO PHENOM BY THE NAME OF DON RENO, WHO WAS DEVELOPING HIS OWN SOPHISTICATED NAME OF DON RENO, WHO WAS DEVELOPING HIS OWN SOPHISTICATED THREE-FINGER STYLE. DEVELOPING HIS OWN SOPHISTICATED THREE-FINGER STYLE. RENO ALSO ACKNOWLEDGED THREE-FINGER STYLE. RENO ALSO ACKNOWLEDGED THE INFLUENCE OF SNUFFY JENKINS RENO ALSO ACKNOWLEDGED THE INFLUENCE OF SNUFFY JENKINS AND WENT ON TO BECOME THE INFLUENCE OF SNUFFY JENKINS AND WENT ON TO BECOME A BLUEGRASS LEGEND IN HIS AND WENT ON TO BECOME A BLUEGRASS LEGEND IN HIS OWN RIGHT. A BLUEGRASS LEGEND IN HIS OWN RIGHT. WHY DON'T WE GIVE RENO OWN RIGHT. WHY DON'T WE GIVE RENO THE CREDIT? WHY DON'T WE GIVE RENO THE CREDIT? WHY DON'T WE GIVE THE CREDIT? WHY DON'T WE GIVE SNUFFY JENKINS THE CREDIT? WHY DON'T WE GIVE ANY OF THESE OTHER MUSICIANS CREDIT FOR PLAYING WITH THREE FINGERS? WELL, THE ACTUAL REALITY IS, THERE WERE LOTS OF PEOPLE PLAYING WITH THREE FINGERS THERE WERE LOTS OF PEOPLE PLAYING WITH THREE FINGERS BEFORE ANY OF THESE GUYS WERE. PLAYING WITH THREE FINGERS BEFORE ANY OF THESE GUYS WERE. AND ALL IT TOOK WAS EARL BEFORE ANY OF THESE GUYS WERE. AND ALL IT TOOK WAS EARL TWEAKING THIS STYLE, THIS KIND AND ALL IT TOOK WAS EARL TWEAKING THIS STYLE, THIS KIND OF ROLLING ARPEGGIATED STYLE, THAT WAS A SMOOTHED-OUT VERSION OF CLASSIC STYLE, FILTERED THROUGH CHARLIE POOLE AND PEOPLE OF HIS GENERATION. AND SO EARL HAD SOMETHING SPECIAL THAT PEOPLE REACTED TO IT. HERE AND NOW, THERE'S A BULL MARKET IN A TRADITIONAL ART FORM -- COUNTRY MUSIC. AT A 10-YEAR PEAK OF POPULARITY, IT'S A RESILIENT, VIRILE STRAIN, NOT EASILY IGNORED OR FORGOTTEN. AND THE FRESHEST SOUND OF ALL, THE FIVE-STRING BANJO, CONSIDERED AMERICA'S ONLY NATIONAL INSTRUMENT. IN 1945, A YOUNG CAROLINA BANJOIST, EARL SCRUGGS, DAZZLED AUDIENCES WITH A NEW HARD-DRIVING, THREE-FINGERED TECHNIQUE OF PLAYING. IT WAS ARTISTRY WHICH GAVE LIFE TO A BAND STYLE CALLED BLUEGRASS. POWERFUL AND EXCITING. Martin: IN 1945, THE SHY, YOUNG PICKER FROM SHELBY WAS PERSUADED BY A FRIEND TO ASK YOUNG PICKER FROM SHELBY WAS PERSUADED BY A FRIEND TO ASK FOR AN AUDITION WITH ONE OF PERSUADED BY A FRIEND TO ASK FOR AN AUDITION WITH ONE OF THE GRAND OLE OPRY'S FOR AN AUDITION WITH ONE OF THE GRAND OLE OPRY'S BIGGEST STARS. THE GRAND OLE OPRY'S BIGGEST STARS. ALTHOUGH HE ACTED UNIMPRESSED, BIGGEST STARS. ALTHOUGH HE ACTED UNIMPRESSED, BILL MONROE INVITED EARL SCRUGGS ALTHOUGH HE ACTED UNIMPRESSED, BILL MONROE INVITED EARL SCRUGGS TO THE OPRY TO PICK WITH BILL MONROE INVITED EARL SCRUGGS TO THE OPRY TO PICK WITH HIS BAND, THE BLUEGRASS BOYS. TO THE OPRY TO PICK WITH HIS BAND, THE BLUEGRASS BOYS. BILL MONROE HAD ALREADY SPEN HIS BAND, THE BLUEGRASS BOYS. BILL MONROE HAD ALREADY SPEN THE BETTER PART OF A DECADE BILL MONROE HAD ALREADY SPEN THE BETTER PART OF A DECADE DEVELOPING A NEW STRING BAND THE BETTER PART OF A DECADE DEVELOPING A NEW STRING BAND SOUND, THE STYLE THAT WOULD COME DEVELOPING A NEW STRING BAND SOUND, THE STYLE THAT WOULD COME TO BE KNOWN AS BLUEGRASS. SOUND, THE STYLE THAT WOULD COME TO BE KNOWN AS BLUEGRASS. BUT IT WAS EARL SCRUGGS' BANJO TO BE KNOWN AS BLUEGRASS. BUT IT WAS EARL SCRUGGS' BANJO THAT PROVED TO BE BUT IT WAS EARL SCRUGGS' BANJO THAT PROVED TO BE THE MISSING INGREDIENT. WHEN BLUEGRASS MUSIC TOOK OFF, THAT'S WHEN PEOPLE SAID, "I'VE GOT TO LEARN TOOK OFF, THAT'S WHEN PEOPLE SAID, "I'VE GOT TO LEARN THE BANJO." SAID, "I'VE GOT TO LEARN THE BANJO." YOU CAN'T TALK ABOU THE BANJO." YOU CAN'T TALK ABOU BLUEGRASS MUSIC WITHOUT TALKING YOU CAN'T TALK ABOU BLUEGRASS MUSIC WITHOUT TALKING ABOUT EARL SCRUGGS AND WITHOU BLUEGRASS MUSIC WITHOUT TALKING ABOUT EARL SCRUGGS AND WITHOU TALKING ABOUT THE BANJO, ABOUT EARL SCRUGGS AND WITHOU TALKING ABOUT THE BANJO, BECAUSE, UNFORTUNATELY FOR TALKING ABOUT THE BANJO, BECAUSE, UNFORTUNATELY FOR MONROE, THAT'S THE MAIN THING BECAUSE, UNFORTUNATELY FOR MONROE, THAT'S THE MAIN THING THAT DIFFERENTIATES IT, AND MONROE, THAT'S THE MAIN THING THAT DIFFERENTIATES IT, AND THAT'S THE MAIN THING THA THAT DIFFERENTIATES IT, AND THAT'S THE MAIN THING THA MADE IT EXCITING. THAT'S THE MAIN THING THA MADE IT EXCITING. Martin: BUT THE CLASSIC MADE IT EXCITING. Martin: BUT THE CLASSIC BLUEGRASS BOYS' LINEUP LASTED Martin: BUT THE CLASSIC BLUEGRASS BOYS' LINEUP LASTED JUST OVER TWO YEARS BEFORE LOW BLUEGRASS BOYS' LINEUP LASTED JUST OVER TWO YEARS BEFORE LOW PAY AND NONSTOP TOURING JUST OVER TWO YEARS BEFORE LOW PAY AND NONSTOP TOURING TOOK ITS TOLL. PAY AND NONSTOP TOURING TOOK ITS TOLL. OF COURSE, WHEN SCRUGGS TOLD TOOK ITS TOLL. OF COURSE, WHEN SCRUGGS TOLD MONROE THAT HE WAS LEAVING, HE SAID, "YOU'LL NEVER AMOUN TO ANYTHING WITHOUT ME." WELL, HE WAS FAR WRONG. THE DAY EARL LEFT, HE TOOK HIS SOUND WITH HIM, AND IT'S THE DAY EARL LEFT, HE TOOK HIS SOUND WITH HIM, AND IT'S STILL GOING TODAY. TODAY, MOVING AT TOP VOLUME, HEAVY SYNCOPATION, AND MORE THAN 2,500 MILES WEEKLY, HEAVY SYNCOPATION, AND MORE THAN 2,500 MILES WEEKLY, IN A SPECIALLY OUTFITTED BUS, THAN 2,500 MILES WEEKLY, IN A SPECIALLY OUTFITTED BUS, ARE THE ACKNOWLEDGED KINGS IN A SPECIALLY OUTFITTED BUS, ARE THE ACKNOWLEDGED KINGS OF BLUEGRASS -- ARE THE ACKNOWLEDGED KINGS OF BLUEGRASS -- TENNESSEE-BORN LESTER FLAT OF BLUEGRASS -- TENNESSEE-BORN LESTER FLAT AND BANJO VIRTUOSO EARL SCRUGGS. TENNESSEE-BORN LESTER FLAT AND BANJO VIRTUOSO EARL SCRUGGS. Martin: WHEN EARL SCRUGGS AND BANJO VIRTUOSO EARL SCRUGGS. Martin: WHEN EARL SCRUGGS QUIT MONROE, HE WAS PLANNING TO Martin: WHEN EARL SCRUGGS QUIT MONROE, HE WAS PLANNING TO RETURN HOME AND GO BACK TO WORK QUIT MONROE, HE WAS PLANNING TO RETURN HOME AND GO BACK TO WORK IN THE MILL. RETURN HOME AND GO BACK TO WORK IN THE MILL. BUT FLATS SUGGESTED THA IN THE MILL. BUT FLATS SUGGESTED THA THEY FORM THEIR OWN BAND AND BUT FLATS SUGGESTED THA THEY FORM THEIR OWN BAND AND JUST PLAY CLOSE TO HOME. THEY FORM THEIR OWN BAND AND JUST PLAY CLOSE TO HOME. FOR THE NEXT 21 YEARS, JUST PLAY CLOSE TO HOME. FOR THE NEXT 21 YEARS, FLATT AND SCRUGGS WERE ONE OF FOR THE NEXT 21 YEARS, FLATT AND SCRUGGS WERE ONE OF THE BUSIEST AND MOST SUCCESSFUL FLATT AND SCRUGGS WERE ONE OF THE BUSIEST AND MOST SUCCESSFUL COUNTRY MUSIC GROUPS. THE BUSIEST AND MOST SUCCESSFUL COUNTRY MUSIC GROUPS. THANKS TO SHREWD MANAGEMENT BY COUNTRY MUSIC GROUPS. THANKS TO SHREWD MANAGEMENT BY EARL'S WIFE, LOUISE, THANKS TO SHREWD MANAGEMENT BY EARL'S WIFE, LOUISE, FLATT & SCRUGGS WENT FROM BEING EARL'S WIFE, LOUISE, FLATT & SCRUGGS WENT FROM BEING A REGIONAL ACT TO BEING FLATT & SCRUGGS WENT FROM BEING A REGIONAL ACT TO BEING NATIONAL FOLK STARS, A REGIONAL ACT TO BEING NATIONAL FOLK STARS, ALL THE WHILE ATTRACTING NATIONAL FOLK STARS, ALL THE WHILE ATTRACTING A NEW GENERATION OF BLUEGRASS ALL THE WHILE ATTRACTING A NEW GENERATION OF BLUEGRASS DISCIPLES. OF COURSE, WE ALL HAVE OUR MENTORS. WE ALL HAVE FOLLOWED PEOPLE THA WE LEARNED FROM. AND I FOLLOWED EARL, OF COURSE. I MEAN, HAD IT NOT BEEN FOR HIM, I WOULD NOT BE SITTING HERE TALKING ABOUT PLAYING THE BANJO. IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOU BLUEGRASS -- GOOD, SOLID, HARD-DRIVIN' -- BLUEGRASS -- GOOD, SOLID, HARD-DRIVIN' -- THAT'S IT. GOOD, SOLID, HARD-DRIVIN' -- THAT'S IT. THAT'S WHERE IT IS. THAT'S IT. THAT'S WHERE IT IS. I HAVEN'T HEARD A BAND YE THAT'S WHERE IT IS. I HAVEN'T HEARD A BAND YE THAT COULD BEAT HIM. I WAS AN EARL SCRUGGS DISCIPLE, THAT'S GOOD. AND I STUDIED EARL... YOU COULDN'T BELIEVE. I COULD LISTEN TO EARL PLAY ON A RADIO SHOW SOMEWHERE I COULD LISTEN TO EARL PLAY ON A RADIO SHOW SOMEWHERE AND I COULD TELL YOU WHAT KIND ON A RADIO SHOW SOMEWHERE AND I COULD TELL YOU WHAT KIND OF MOOD HE WAS IN. AND I COULD TELL YOU WHAT KIND OF MOOD HE WAS IN. I'D REALLY, I'D LISTEN TO HIM OF MOOD HE WAS IN. I'D REALLY, I'D LISTEN TO HIM SO MUCH BECAUSE HE HAD I'D REALLY, I'D LISTEN TO HIM SO MUCH BECAUSE HE HAD EVERYTHING YOU NEEDED SO MUCH BECAUSE HE HAD EVERYTHING YOU NEEDED IN HIS RIGHT HAND. EVERYTHING YOU NEEDED IN HIS RIGHT HAND. EVERYTHING. IN HIS RIGHT HAND. EVERYTHING. [ APPLAUSE ] EVERYTHING. [ APPLAUSE ] NOW WE'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE [ APPLAUSE ] NOW WE'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE A GENTLEMAN THAT'S BEEN ON NOW WE'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE A GENTLEMAN THAT'S BEEN ON THE GRAND OLE OPRY A LONG TIME A GENTLEMAN THAT'S BEEN ON THE GRAND OLE OPRY A LONG TIME AND STARTED WITH ME ABOU THE GRAND OLE OPRY A LONG TIME AND STARTED WITH ME ABOU 22 YEARS AGO HERE. AND STARTED WITH ME ABOU 22 YEARS AGO HERE. THE SECOND BANJO PLAYER 22 YEARS AGO HERE. THE SECOND BANJO PLAYER THAT EVER PLAYED FOR ME. THE SECOND BANJO PLAYER THAT EVER PLAYED FOR ME. HIM AND HIS TWO SONS ARE GONNA THAT EVER PLAYED FOR ME. HIM AND HIS TWO SONS ARE GONNA PICK FOR YOU HERE TONIGHT. HIM AND HIS TWO SONS ARE GONNA PICK FOR YOU HERE TONIGHT. EARL SCRUGGS AND HIS TWO SONS, PICK FOR YOU HERE TONIGHT. EARL SCRUGGS AND HIS TWO SONS, GARY AND RANDALL. EARL SCRUGGS AND HIS TWO SONS, GARY AND RANDALL. LET'S GIVE THEM A NICE HAND GARY AND RANDALL. LET'S GIVE THEM A NICE HAND HERE TONIGHT, LET'S GIVE THEM A NICE HAND HERE TONIGHT, WHAT DO YOU SAY? HERE TONIGHT, WHAT DO YOU SAY? Martin: FLATT & SCRUGGS WHAT DO YOU SAY? Martin: FLATT & SCRUGGS FINALLY SPLIT UP IN 1969 BECAUSE Martin: FLATT & SCRUGGS FINALLY SPLIT UP IN 1969 BECAUSE EARL WANTED TO EXPAND BEYOND FINALLY SPLIT UP IN 1969 BECAUSE EARL WANTED TO EXPAND BEYOND THE TRADITIONAL BLUEGRASS EARL WANTED TO EXPAND BEYOND THE TRADITIONAL BLUEGRASS REPERTOIRE. THE TRADITIONAL BLUEGRASS REPERTOIRE. HE CONTINUED TO LOOK FOR NEW REPERTOIRE. HE CONTINUED TO LOOK FOR NEW WAYS TO USE THE BANJO, DRAWING HE CONTINUED TO LOOK FOR NEW WAYS TO USE THE BANJO, DRAWING INSPIRATION FROM HIS FAMILY WAYS TO USE THE BANJO, DRAWING INSPIRATION FROM HIS FAMILY AND THE NEW MUSIC OF THE ERA. INSPIRATION FROM HIS FAMILY AND THE NEW MUSIC OF THE ERA. THIS NINE POUND HAMMER AND THE NEW MUSIC OF THE ERA. THIS NINE POUND HAMMER IS A LITTLE TOO HEAVY THIS NINE POUND HAMMER IS A LITTLE TOO HEAVY FOR MY SIZE IS A LITTLE TOO HEAVY FOR MY SIZE FOR MY SIZE NOW ROLL ON, BUDDY ROLL ON, BUDDY DON'T YA ROLL SO SLOW HOW CAN I ROLL WHEN THE WHEELS DON'T GO? MY BOYS, GARY AND RANDY PLAYED THEIR STEELS, JUS GETTING TOO GOOD TO NOT GO PLAYED THEIR STEELS, JUS GETTING TOO GOOD TO NOT GO TO WORK WITH THEM. GETTING TOO GOOD TO NOT GO TO WORK WITH THEM. THAT'S THE FIRST TIME I'D EVER TO WORK WITH THEM. THAT'S THE FIRST TIME I'D EVER HEARD ANYTHING LIKE THAT. THAT'S THE FIRST TIME I'D EVER HEARD ANYTHING LIKE THAT. I WAS ALWAYS TRYING TO FIGURE HEARD ANYTHING LIKE THAT. I WAS ALWAYS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PUT A BANJO IN ON I WAS ALWAYS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PUT A BANJO IN ON THAT KIND OF STUFF, YOU KNOW. Martin: THE EARL SCRUGGS REVUE MADE BLUEGRASS PURISTS UNCOMFORTABLE. REVUE MADE BLUEGRASS PURISTS UNCOMFORTABLE. BUT SCRUGGS WAS DETERMINED TO UNCOMFORTABLE. BUT SCRUGGS WAS DETERMINED TO EXPLORE NEW MUSICAL TERRITORY BUT SCRUGGS WAS DETERMINED TO EXPLORE NEW MUSICAL TERRITORY AND CONNECT WITH NEW AUDIENCES. EXPLORE NEW MUSICAL TERRITORY AND CONNECT WITH NEW AUDIENCES. THE BANJO, HE SAID, WAS NO AND CONNECT WITH NEW AUDIENCES. THE BANJO, HE SAID, WAS NO AN INSTRUMENT THAT HAD TO BE THE BANJO, HE SAID, WAS NO AN INSTRUMENT THAT HAD TO BE CORNERED OFF INTO ANY PARTICULAR AN INSTRUMENT THAT HAD TO BE CORNERED OFF INTO ANY PARTICULAR TYPE OF MUSIC. CORNERED OFF INTO ANY PARTICULAR TYPE OF MUSIC. NOW, ROLL ON, BUDDY TYPE OF MUSIC. NOW, ROLL ON, BUDDY ROLL ON, BUDDY NOW, ROLL ON, BUDDY ROLL ON, BUDDY DON'T YOU ROLL SO SLOW ROLL ON, BUDDY DON'T YOU ROLL SO SLOW HOW CAN I ROLL DON'T YOU ROLL SO SLOW HOW CAN I ROLL WHEN THE WHEELS DON'T GO? HOW CAN I ROLL WHEN THE WHEELS DON'T GO? [ APPLAUSE ] THAT'S PRETTY COOL, MAN. SO HE CHANGED THE HEAD? I'VE GOT TONS OF STUDENTS. AND I TRY TO TELL THEM ALL THA IT'S AN ART THAT'S NOT ABOU WHO'S BETTER THAN WHO. IT'S AN ART THAT'S NOT ABOU WHO'S BETTER THAN WHO. IT'S AN ART ABOUT MAKING IT WHA WHO'S BETTER THAN WHO. IT'S AN ART ABOUT MAKING IT WHA YOU WANT TO MAKE OF IT. IT'S AN ART ABOUT MAKING IT WHA YOU WANT TO MAKE OF IT. I'VE SEEN MUSIC SAVE PEOPLE'S YOU WANT TO MAKE OF IT. I'VE SEEN MUSIC SAVE PEOPLE'S LIVES. I'VE SEEN MUSIC SAVE PEOPLE'S LIVES. I'VE SEEN MUSIC SOOTHE LIVES. I'VE SEEN MUSIC SOOTHE PEOPLE'S LIVES. I'VE SEEN MUSIC SOOTHE PEOPLE'S LIVES. AND I THINK THAT THE BANJO IS PEOPLE'S LIVES. AND I THINK THAT THE BANJO IS SOMETHING THAT, IF YOU DO IT AND AND I THINK THAT THE BANJO IS SOMETHING THAT, IF YOU DO IT AND YOU KEEP PLAYING IT, IT WILL SOMETHING THAT, IF YOU DO IT AND YOU KEEP PLAYING IT, IT WILL SURELY HELP YOU IN YOUR LIFE. YOU KEEP PLAYING IT, IT WILL SURELY HELP YOU IN YOUR LIFE. AND THAT'S THE REASON I SURELY HELP YOU IN YOUR LIFE. AND THAT'S THE REASON I PASSED IT ALONG TO OTHER KIDS. AND THAT'S THE REASON I PASSED IT ALONG TO OTHER KIDS. AND I HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE PASSED IT ALONG TO OTHER KIDS. AND I HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE PASS IT ALONG TO ME. [ LAUGHTER ] WELL, WE ARE IN GREENWICH VILLAGE NOW WHERE PEOPLE COME TO GET AWAY FROM AMERICA. IT'S NOT JAZZ AROUND HERE ANYMORE, IT'S FOLK MUSIC. THE YOUNG PEOPLE HAVE GONE MAD OVER BALLADS AND BLUES, GUITAR PLAYING AND BANJO OVER BALLADS AND BLUES, GUITAR PLAYING AND BANJO PICKING. GUITAR PLAYING AND BANJO PICKING. WE'RE RECORDING HERE TONIGHT. PICKING. WE'RE RECORDING HERE TONIGHT. WE'RE HAVING A PARTY, WE'RE RECORDING HERE TONIGHT. WE'RE HAVING A PARTY, SO COME ON IN. WE'RE HAVING A PARTY, SO COME ON IN. THE INSTRUMENTS ARE PLAYED BY SO COME ON IN. THE INSTRUMENTS ARE PLAYED BY YOUNG PEOPLE LIKE THE INSTRUMENTS ARE PLAYED BY YOUNG PEOPLE LIKE THE NEW LOST CITY RAMBLERS, YOUNG PEOPLE LIKE THE NEW LOST CITY RAMBLERS, WITH MIKE SEEGER, THE NEW LOST CITY RAMBLERS, WITH MIKE SEEGER, AN ELECTRONICS ENGINEER; WITH MIKE SEEGER, AN ELECTRONICS ENGINEER; TOM PALEY, PROFESSOR OF AN ELECTRONICS ENGINEER; TOM PALEY, PROFESSOR OF MATHEMATICS; AND JOHN COHEN, TOM PALEY, PROFESSOR OF MATHEMATICS; AND JOHN COHEN, A PHOTOGRAPHER. MATHEMATICS; AND JOHN COHEN, A PHOTOGRAPHER. BUT THOSE BOYS REALLY KNOW HOW A PHOTOGRAPHER. BUT THOSE BOYS REALLY KNOW HOW TO PLAY MOUNTAIN MUSIC. Martin: IT HAD ALWAYS BEEN MUSIC MADE BY NEIGHBORS FOR THEIR NEIGHBORS. MUSIC MADE BY NEIGHBORS FOR THEIR NEIGHBORS. MIKE SEEGER AND THE NEW LOS FOR THEIR NEIGHBORS. MIKE SEEGER AND THE NEW LOS CITY RAMBLERS CAME TOGETHER TO MIKE SEEGER AND THE NEW LOS CITY RAMBLERS CAME TOGETHER TO PRESENT AND PRESERVE THE RURAL CITY RAMBLERS CAME TOGETHER TO PRESENT AND PRESERVE THE RURAL MUSIC OF THE '20s AND '30s. PRESENT AND PRESERVE THE RURAL MUSIC OF THE '20s AND '30s. THEY REFERRED TO THIS MUSIC MUSIC OF THE '20s AND '30s. THEY REFERRED TO THIS MUSIC AS "OLD-TIME," AND THE LABEL THEY REFERRED TO THIS MUSIC AS "OLD-TIME," AND THE LABEL CAUGHT ON. SOMEBODY SAID, "THE NEW LOST CITY RAMBLERS -- CRUSADERS FOR OLD-TIME MUSIC." IN A WAY, IT WAS ACCURATE. WE KIND OF GOT INTO THAT ROLE AND TRAVELED ALL OVER WE KIND OF GOT INTO THAT ROLE AND TRAVELED ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. WE REALIZED THE DEPTH AND THE BREADTH OF THE MUSIC AND THEN STARTED TO ADVOCATE FOR THE TRADITIONAL MUSICIANS IN THE NORTH. FOR THE TRADITIONAL MUSICIANS IN THE NORTH. SOMETHIN' I WANT TO TELL IN THE NORTH. SOMETHIN' I WANT TO TELL TELL HER NOT TO BE SOMETHIN' I WANT TO TELL TELL HER NOT TO BE A-WASTIN' HER TIME TELL HER NOT TO BE A-WASTIN' HER TIME RUNNIN' AROUND WITH A-WASTIN' HER TIME RUNNIN' AROUND WITH SOME OTHER FELLER RUNNIN' AROUND WITH SOME OTHER FELLER IF ONLY I WAS SOME OTHER FELLER IF ONLY I WAS ON SOME FOGGY MOUNTAINTOP IF ONLY I WAS ON SOME FOGGY MOUNTAINTOP I'D SAIL AWAY TO THE WEST ON SOME FOGGY MOUNTAINTOP I'D SAIL AWAY TO THE WEST I'D SAIL ALL AROUND I'D SAIL AWAY TO THE WEST I'D SAIL ALL AROUND THIS WHOLE WIDE WORLD I'D SAIL ALL AROUND THIS WHOLE WIDE WORLD TO THE GIRL I LOVE THIS WHOLE WIDE WORLD TO THE GIRL I LOVE THE BEST TO THE GIRL I LOVE THE BEST [ YODELING ] Martin: NOT SATISFIED WITH LEARNING FROM THE DISEMBODIED VOICES ON THE RECORDINGS, LEARNING FROM THE DISEMBODIED VOICES ON THE RECORDINGS, THEY WANTED TO TRACK DOWN VOICES ON THE RECORDINGS, THEY WANTED TO TRACK DOWN THE SOURCES. THEY WANTED TO TRACK DOWN THE SOURCES. IN 1959, SHORTLY AFTER THE SOURCES. IN 1959, SHORTLY AFTER THE NEW LOST CITY RAMBLERS IN 1959, SHORTLY AFTER THE NEW LOST CITY RAMBLERS STARTED, WE WERE DOING A PROJEC THE NEW LOST CITY RAMBLERS STARTED, WE WERE DOING A PROJEC ABOUT SONGS FROM STARTED, WE WERE DOING A PROJEC ABOUT SONGS FROM THE DEPRESSION, AND I THOUGH ABOUT SONGS FROM THE DEPRESSION, AND I THOUGH IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR ME TO THE DEPRESSION, AND I THOUGH IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR ME TO EXPERIENCE ONE IN PERSON, IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR ME TO EXPERIENCE ONE IN PERSON, IF I COULD, AND MAYBE FIND EXPERIENCE ONE IN PERSON, IF I COULD, AND MAYBE FIND SOME OLD SONGS. IF I COULD, AND MAYBE FIND SOME OLD SONGS. SO I WENT TO EASTERN KENTUCKY. SOME OLD SONGS. SO I WENT TO EASTERN KENTUCKY. Martin: JOHN COHEN SPEN SO I WENT TO EASTERN KENTUCKY. Martin: JOHN COHEN SPEN SIX WEEKS ONE SUMMER IN Martin: JOHN COHEN SPEN SIX WEEKS ONE SUMMER IN PERRY COUNTY, KENTUCKY, LOOKING SIX WEEKS ONE SUMMER IN PERRY COUNTY, KENTUCKY, LOOKING FOR BANJO PLAYERS. PERRY COUNTY, KENTUCKY, LOOKING FOR BANJO PLAYERS. AT THE END OF A HOT, FOR BANJO PLAYERS. AT THE END OF A HOT, DISCOURAGING DAY, ON A WHIM, AT THE END OF A HOT, DISCOURAGING DAY, ON A WHIM, HE TURNED ONTO A DIRT ROAD TO DISCOURAGING DAY, ON A WHIM, HE TURNED ONTO A DIRT ROAD TO SEE WHERE IT MIGHT LEAD. HE TURNED ONTO A DIRT ROAD TO SEE WHERE IT MIGHT LEAD. HE STARTS TO PLAY AND SING SEE WHERE IT MIGHT LEAD. HE STARTS TO PLAY AND SING AND, OOH, MY HAIR STOOD ON EDGE. HE STARTS TO PLAY AND SING AND, OOH, MY HAIR STOOD ON EDGE. IT WAS JUST THIS INCREDIBLE AND, OOH, MY HAIR STOOD ON EDGE. IT WAS JUST THIS INCREDIBLE SOUND. IT WAS JUST THIS INCREDIBLE SOUND. THAT WAS ROSCOE HOLCOMB. SOUND. THAT WAS ROSCOE HOLCOMB. IT WAS ONE OF THE WONDERFUL THAT WAS ROSCOE HOLCOMB. IT WAS ONE OF THE WONDERFUL MOMENTS OF MY LIFE. WHEN I WAS SINGLE I'D GO TO STORE AND BUY NOW, I'M A MARRIED GIRL I ROCK THE CRADLE AND CRY LORDY, WISH I WAS A SINGLE GIRL AGAIN... I'LL WAIT FOR YOU TO LEAD. I KNOW THE FIDDLE'S SUPPOSED TO LEAD. I GOT A $25 S.S. STEWAR BANJO AND STARTED PLAYING LIKE THE PEOPLE I WANTED TO LEARN BANJO AND STARTED PLAYING LIKE THE PEOPLE I WANTED TO LEARN FROM. THE PEOPLE I WANTED TO LEARN FROM. WHICH INCLUDED MY BROTHER PETE FROM. WHICH INCLUDED MY BROTHER PETE AND WADE WARD AND WHICH INCLUDED MY BROTHER PETE AND WADE WARD AND BASCOM LUNSFORD. AND WADE WARD AND BASCOM LUNSFORD. AND THAT WAS ABOUT THE TIME I BASCOM LUNSFORD. AND THAT WAS ABOUT THE TIME I WAS GOING TO COLLEGE AND THAT WAS ABOUT THE TIME I WAS GOING TO COLLEGE AND I FLUNKED OUT OF COLLEGE WAS GOING TO COLLEGE AND I FLUNKED OUT OF COLLEGE AND PLAYED THE BANJO. AND I FLUNKED OUT OF COLLEGE AND PLAYED THE BANJO. Martin: COHEN'S BANDMATE AND PLAYED THE BANJO. Martin: COHEN'S BANDMATE MIKE SEEGER HAD ALREADY MADE Martin: COHEN'S BANDMATE MIKE SEEGER HAD ALREADY MADE A NAME FOR HIMSELF AS MIKE SEEGER HAD ALREADY MADE A NAME FOR HIMSELF AS A MULTI-INSTRUMENTALIST AND A NAME FOR HIMSELF AS A MULTI-INSTRUMENTALIST AND FIELD RECORDIST FOR SOUTHERN A MULTI-INSTRUMENTALIST AND FIELD RECORDIST FOR SOUTHERN FOLK MUSICIANS. FIELD RECORDIST FOR SOUTHERN FOLK MUSICIANS. I TEND TO BE INTERESTED IN FOLK MUSICIANS. I TEND TO BE INTERESTED IN THE MUSIC THAT'S MADE A I TEND TO BE INTERESTED IN THE MUSIC THAT'S MADE A THE GRASSROOTS AND NO THE MUSIC THAT'S MADE A THE GRASSROOTS AND NO SO MUCH FOR STAGE. THE GRASSROOTS AND NO SO MUCH FOR STAGE. I FOCUSED IN MOSTLY ON MUSIC OF SO MUCH FOR STAGE. I FOCUSED IN MOSTLY ON MUSIC OF THE BANJO PLAYERS THAT I CAN I FOCUSED IN MOSTLY ON MUSIC OF THE BANJO PLAYERS THAT I CAN ACTUALLY MEET. THE BANJO PLAYERS THAT I CAN ACTUALLY MEET. [ PLAYING "DOWN SOUTH BLUES" ] ACTUALLY MEET. [ PLAYING "DOWN SOUTH BLUES" ] Martin: IN THE LAST 1920s, [ PLAYING "DOWN SOUTH BLUES" ] Martin: IN THE LAST 1920s, A VIRGINIA COAL MINER Martin: IN THE LAST 1920s, A VIRGINIA COAL MINER AND MOONSHINER NAMED DOCK BOGGS A VIRGINIA COAL MINER AND MOONSHINER NAMED DOCK BOGGS RECORDED 12 SIDES OF HAUNTING AND MOONSHINER NAMED DOCK BOGGS RECORDED 12 SIDES OF HAUNTING COUNTRY BLUES. RECORDED 12 SIDES OF HAUNTING COUNTRY BLUES. HE THEN RETURNED HOME, SOLD HIS COUNTRY BLUES. HE THEN RETURNED HOME, SOLD HIS BANJO, AND WORKED IN THE MINES HE THEN RETURNED HOME, SOLD HIS BANJO, AND WORKED IN THE MINES FOR 30 MORE YEARS UNTIL BANJO, AND WORKED IN THE MINES FOR 30 MORE YEARS UNTIL MIKE SEEGER SEARCHED HIM OUT. FOR 30 MORE YEARS UNTIL MIKE SEEGER SEARCHED HIM OUT. WHAT FIRST CAUGHT ME ABOU MIKE SEEGER SEARCHED HIM OUT. WHAT FIRST CAUGHT ME ABOU DOCK WAS THE ORIGINAL RECORDINGS WHAT FIRST CAUGHT ME ABOU DOCK WAS THE ORIGINAL RECORDINGS THAT HE MADE IN 1927. DOCK WAS THE ORIGINAL RECORDINGS THAT HE MADE IN 1927. DOCK'S SOUND WAS SO RAW AND THAT HE MADE IN 1927. DOCK'S SOUND WAS SO RAW AND ELEMENTAL THAT I JUST WANTED DOCK'S SOUND WAS SO RAW AND ELEMENTAL THAT I JUST WANTED TO FIND HIM. ELEMENTAL THAT I JUST WANTED TO FIND HIM. I'VE BEEN PLAYING. TO FIND HIM. I'VE BEEN PLAYING. SOME PEOPLE LIKE TO HEAR I'VE BEEN PLAYING. SOME PEOPLE LIKE TO HEAR THE WAY I PLAY SOME PEOPLE LIKE TO HEAR THE WAY I PLAY AND SOME DOESN'T SO MUCH. WELL, YOU CAN'T EXPECT EVERYBODY TO LIKE IT, BUT I'M GOING TO PLAY YOU A LITTLE BIT OF "PRETTY POLLY" THE WAY I PUT I ON RECORD YEARS AGO. WHEN WE FIRST MET, WE WERE BOTH INCREDULOUS. HE DIDN'T BELIEVE THAT ANYBODY BOTH INCREDULOUS. HE DIDN'T BELIEVE THAT ANYBODY WOULD REMEMBER THOSE OLD HE DIDN'T BELIEVE THAT ANYBODY WOULD REMEMBER THOSE OLD RECORDS. WOULD REMEMBER THOSE OLD RECORDS. AND I COULDN'T BELIEVE THA RECORDS. AND I COULDN'T BELIEVE THA THE PERSON WHO MADE THOSE AND I COULDN'T BELIEVE THA THE PERSON WHO MADE THOSE RECORDS WAS SITTING THE PERSON WHO MADE THOSE RECORDS WAS SITTING IN FRONT OF ME. RECORDS WAS SITTING IN FRONT OF ME. PRETTY POLLY IN FRONT OF ME. PRETTY POLLY SUCH BEAUTY'S NEVER BEEN FOUND PRETTY POLLY SUCH BEAUTY'S NEVER BEEN FOUND PRETTY POLLY, PRETTY POLLY SUCH BEAUTY'S NEVER BEEN FOUND PRETTY POLLY, PRETTY POLLY OH, YONDER SHE STANDS PRETTY POLLY, PRETTY POLLY OH, YONDER SHE STANDS PRETTY POLLY, PRETTY POLLY OH, YONDER SHE STANDS PRETTY POLLY, PRETTY POLLY OH, YONDER SHE STANDS PRETTY POLLY, PRETTY POLLY OH, YONDER SHE STANDS A GOLD RING ON HER FINGER OH, YONDER SHE STANDS A GOLD RING ON HER FINGER AND LILY-WHITE HAIR A GOLD RING ON HER FINGER AND LILY-WHITE HAIR PRETTY POLLY, PRETTY POLLY AND LILY-WHITE HAIR PRETTY POLLY, PRETTY POLLY COME TAKE A WALK WITH ME PRETTY POLLY, PRETTY POLLY COME TAKE A WALK WITH ME PRETTY POLLY, PRETTY POLLY COME TAKE A WALK WITH ME PRETTY POLLY, PRETTY POLLY COME TAKE A WALK WITH ME PRETTY POLLY, PRETTY POLLY COME TAKE A WALK WITH ME OH, WHEN WE GET MARRIED COME TAKE A WALK WITH ME OH, WHEN WE GET MARRIED SOME PLEASURE TO SEE OH, WHEN WE GET MARRIED SOME PLEASURE TO SEE Martin: BOGGS AND HOLCOMB FI SOME PLEASURE TO SEE Martin: BOGGS AND HOLCOMB FI THE REVIVALIST PROFILE OF Martin: BOGGS AND HOLCOMB FI THE REVIVALIST PROFILE OF VISIONARY FOLK MUSICIANS, THE REVIVALIST PROFILE OF VISIONARY FOLK MUSICIANS, REPRESENTING A VANISHING BREED, VISIONARY FOLK MUSICIANS, REPRESENTING A VANISHING BREED, WHO HELD ON TO THEIR TRADITIONS REPRESENTING A VANISHING BREED, WHO HELD ON TO THEIR TRADITIONS DESPITE MASS CULTURE. WHO HELD ON TO THEIR TRADITIONS DESPITE MASS CULTURE. THIS MUSIC EXISTS TO DESPITE MASS CULTURE. THIS MUSIC EXISTS TO ENTERTAIN A FEW FRIENDS THIS MUSIC EXISTS TO ENTERTAIN A FEW FRIENDS AND NOT FOR PERFORMANCE. ENTERTAIN A FEW FRIENDS AND NOT FOR PERFORMANCE. AND IT CAN HAPPEN ANY TIME, AND NOT FOR PERFORMANCE. AND IT CAN HAPPEN ANY TIME, ANYWHERE, AND IT CAN HAPPEN ANY TIME, ANYWHERE, AND I THINK IT'S WONDERFUL ANYWHERE, AND I THINK IT'S WONDERFUL FOR THAT REASON. WHAT ELSE YOU GO IN MIND, BABY? HOW ABOUT "THE OLD 97." OKAY, "THE OLD 97." Martin: IN PLACES LIKE SURRY COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA, NEIGHBORS KEEP ALIVE SURRY COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA, NEIGHBORS KEEP ALIVE THE OLD-TIME TRADITIONS ADMIRED NEIGHBORS KEEP ALIVE THE OLD-TIME TRADITIONS ADMIRED BY THE REVIVALISTS. THE OLD-TIME TRADITIONS ADMIRED BY THE REVIVALISTS. AS ONE PLAYER ASKED, BY THE REVIVALISTS. AS ONE PLAYER ASKED, "WHAT FOLK REVIVAL? AS ONE PLAYER ASKED, "WHAT FOLK REVIVAL? WE'RE STILL PLAYING THE SAME "WHAT FOLK REVIVAL? WE'RE STILL PLAYING THE SAME MUSIC WE'VE ALWAYS PLAYED." WE'RE STILL PLAYING THE SAME MUSIC WE'VE ALWAYS PLAYED." PEOPLE ARE PLAYING MUSIC IN MUSIC WE'VE ALWAYS PLAYED." PEOPLE ARE PLAYING MUSIC IN THIS REGION SOMEWHERE ALMOS PEOPLE ARE PLAYING MUSIC IN THIS REGION SOMEWHERE ALMOS EVERY NIGHT OF THE WEEK. THIS REGION SOMEWHERE ALMOS EVERY NIGHT OF THE WEEK. THE TRADITION OF MUSIC MEANS EVERY NIGHT OF THE WEEK. THE TRADITION OF MUSIC MEANS A LOT TO THE PEOPLE WHO THE TRADITION OF MUSIC MEANS A LOT TO THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE. A LOT TO THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE. YOU KNOW, TO BE ABLE TO GIVE BACK TO OLD-TIME MUSIC BY HELPING, YOU KNOW, PASS I ON TO OTHERS. MOUNTAIN MUSICIANS TUNE BETTER AND LONGER THAN ANYBODY ELSE. BETTER AND LONGER THAN ANYBODY ELSE. [ CHUCKLES ] Martin: AFTER A HALF CENTURY OF SEARCHING OUT AND PERFORMING THE MUSIC OF SOUTHERN RURAL OF SEARCHING OUT AND PERFORMING THE MUSIC OF SOUTHERN RURAL MASTERS, THE STUDENT HAS BECOME THE MUSIC OF SOUTHERN RURAL MASTERS, THE STUDENT HAS BECOME THE MENTOR AND A SOURCE THA MASTERS, THE STUDENT HAS BECOME THE MENTOR AND A SOURCE THA OTHERS NOW SEEK OUT. THE MENTOR AND A SOURCE THA OTHERS NOW SEEK OUT. I'M AS PRETTY A LITTLE BIRD OTHERS NOW SEEK OUT. I'M AS PRETTY A LITTLE BIRD AS I CAN BE I'M AS PRETTY A LITTLE BIRD AS I CAN BE I'M AS PRETTY A LITTLE BIRD AS I CAN BE I'M AS PRETTY A LITTLE BIRD AS I CAN BE I'M AS PRETTY A LITTLE BIRD AS I CAN BE I SIT IN THE HILLS AS I CAN BE I SIT IN THE HILLS AND I SING ALL THE DAY I SIT IN THE HILLS AND I SING ALL THE DAY NO ONE EVER BOTHERS ME AND I SING ALL THE DAY NO ONE EVER BOTHERS ME OH, IF I WAS A LITTLE BIRD NO ONE EVER BOTHERS ME OH, IF I WAS A LITTLE BIRD I WOULD NOT BUILD MY NES OH, IF I WAS A LITTLE BIRD I WOULD NOT BUILD MY NES ON THE GROUND I WOULD NOT BUILD MY NES ON THE GROUND I WOULD BUILD MY NES ON THE GROUND I WOULD BUILD MY NES IN THE HIGHEST OAK TREE I WOULD BUILD MY NES IN THE HIGHEST OAK TREE WHERE THE BAD BOYS IN THE HIGHEST OAK TREE WHERE THE BAD BOYS COULDN'T TEAR IT DOWN WHERE THE BAD BOYS COULDN'T TEAR IT DOWN I'M AS PRETTY A LITTLE BIRD COULDN'T TEAR IT DOWN I'M AS PRETTY A LITTLE BIRD AS I CAN BE, I CAN BE I'M AS PRETTY A LITTLE BIRD AS I CAN BE, I CAN BE I'M AS PRETTY A LITTLE BIRD AS I CAN BE, I CAN BE I'M AS PRETTY A LITTLE BIRD AS I CAN BE I'M AS PRETTY A LITTLE BIRD AS I CAN BE I SIT IN THE HILLS AS I CAN BE I SIT IN THE HILLS AND I SING ALL THE DAY I SIT IN THE HILLS AND I SING ALL THE DAY NO ONE EVER BOTHERS ME FIRST STRING, SECOND FRET. THAT'S THE C CHORD. WE'RE GONNA DO THAT TWICE. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO THE OPEN STRING AGAIN. YOU HEAR ABOU EASTERN KENTUCKY WITH POVERTY AND YOU HEAR ABOUT EASTERN KENTUCKY WITH COAL MINING DISASTERS, BUT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE PEOPLE COME HERE BECAUSE OF THIS WONDERFUL MUSIC SCHOOL, IT HAS KIND OF STARTED OPENING PEOPLE'S EYES THAT, HEY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SOMETHING HERE. WE HAVE SOMETHING THA NOBODY ELSE HAS. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CAN'T BE HAULED OFF IN TRUCKS. WE SAW THE TRADITION HAULED OFF IN TRUCKS. WE SAW THE TRADITION WAS DYING OU AND WE THOUGHT THAT WAS SAD, AND IT SEEMED LIKE A GREA OPPORTUNITY FOR GETTING THE MUSIC BACK IN THE FOREFRONT. TO ME, IT'S THE GOSPEL, YOU KNOW. THINGS THAT ARE LOWLY GE BROUGHT UP AND HIGHLIGHTED, AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE REAL MOVEMENT OF THE SPIRIT IS. THESE STRINGS REALLY BIND US TOGETHER IN REALLY UNIQUE WAYS AND BINDS PEOPLE TOGETHER. RIGHT HERE IN THIS LITTLE CORNER OF THE WORLD, WE'RE REALLY CONNECTED TO THE WHOLE WORLD. OUR MOUNTAIN MUSIC IS TO TRY TO BRING BACK TO THEM SOMETHING OF THE PAST, SOMETHING OF A LIFE THAT WE USED TO HAVE THAT WE'VE LOST AND TO JUST GIVE US A LITTLE HOPE MAYBE. MY BROTHER AND I ARE WATCHING TELEVISION IN QUEENS, BETWEEN 5 AND 7 YEARS OLD. TELEVISION IN QUEENS, BETWEEN 5 AND 7 YEARS OLD. AND "THE BEVERLY HILLBILLIES" BETWEEN 5 AND 7 YEARS OLD. AND "THE BEVERLY HILLBILLIES" COMES ON, AND IT'S LIKE... [ PLAYING THEME SONG ] AND I'M LIKE TRANSFIXED. I'VE NEVER HEARD ANYTHING LIKE THIS, AND ALL THESE NEURONS I'VE NEVER HEARD ANYTHING LIKE THIS, AND ALL THESE NEURONS ARE FIRING IN MY BRAIN, LIKE THIS, AND ALL THESE NEURONS ARE FIRING IN MY BRAIN, AND IT'S LIKE MERCURY NOTES. ARE FIRING IN MY BRAIN, AND IT'S LIKE MERCURY NOTES. EVERY NOTE IS LIKE METAL. AND IT'S LIKE MERCURY NOTES. EVERY NOTE IS LIKE METAL. JUST PERFECT AND STUNNING EVERY NOTE IS LIKE METAL. JUST PERFECT AND STUNNING AND THAT'S WHAT MADE ME WAN JUST PERFECT AND STUNNING AND THAT'S WHAT MADE ME WAN TO PLAY THE BANJO. Martin: DESPITE LINGERING CULTURAL STEREOTYPES ABOU THE BANJO, INNOVATORS LIKE CULTURAL STEREOTYPES ABOU THE BANJO, INNOVATORS LIKE BELA FLECK HAVE BEEN ABLE TO THE BANJO, INNOVATORS LIKE BELA FLECK HAVE BEEN ABLE TO EXPAND DRAMATICALLY ON THE BELA FLECK HAVE BEEN ABLE TO EXPAND DRAMATICALLY ON THE MUSICAL FOUNDATION PROVIDED EXPAND DRAMATICALLY ON THE MUSICAL FOUNDATION PROVIDED BY EARL SCRUGGS. MUSICAL FOUNDATION PROVIDED BY EARL SCRUGGS. I THINK OF MYSELF A LOT MORE BY EARL SCRUGGS. I THINK OF MYSELF A LOT MORE IN TERMS OF THE WORLD COMMUNITY I THINK OF MYSELF A LOT MORE IN TERMS OF THE WORLD COMMUNITY OF MUSICIANS THAN I THINK OF IN TERMS OF THE WORLD COMMUNITY OF MUSICIANS THAN I THINK OF MYSELF IN TERMS OF THE COMMUNITY OF MUSICIANS THAN I THINK OF MYSELF IN TERMS OF THE COMMUNITY OF BANJO PLAYERS. MYSELF IN TERMS OF THE COMMUNITY OF BANJO PLAYERS. IN TERMS OF WHAT I'M TRYING TO OF BANJO PLAYERS. IN TERMS OF WHAT I'M TRYING TO LEARN AND GROW AS A MUSICIAN, IN TERMS OF WHAT I'M TRYING TO LEARN AND GROW AS A MUSICIAN, I WANT TO KNOW HOW I FIT IN. LEARN AND GROW AS A MUSICIAN, I WANT TO KNOW HOW I FIT IN. WHAT DO PEOPLE PLAY JAZZ LIKE, I WANT TO KNOW HOW I FIT IN. WHAT DO PEOPLE PLAY JAZZ LIKE, WHAT DO PEOPLE PLAY WHAT DO PEOPLE PLAY JAZZ LIKE, WHAT DO PEOPLE PLAY CLASSICAL LIKE? WHAT DO PEOPLE PLAY CLASSICAL LIKE? WHAT IS THE LEVEL OF CLASSICAL LIKE? WHAT IS THE LEVEL OF MUSICIANSHIP THAT THE GREA WHAT IS THE LEVEL OF MUSICIANSHIP THAT THE GREA MUSICIANS HAVE? SOMETIMES I FIND PEOPLE WHO ARE HARD CORE ABOUT WHAT YOU SHOULD AND SHOULDN'T DO, AND YOU'RE HARD CORE ABOUT WHAT YOU SHOULD AND SHOULDN'T DO, AND YOU'RE BASING IT ON WHAT SOMEBODY DID AND SHOULDN'T DO, AND YOU'RE BASING IT ON WHAT SOMEBODY DID IN THE 1940s. BASING IT ON WHAT SOMEBODY DID IN THE 1940s. I CAN'T GO WITH THAT. IN THE 1940s. I CAN'T GO WITH THAT. BESIDES, TOO MANY PEOPLE WHOSE I CAN'T GO WITH THAT. BESIDES, TOO MANY PEOPLE WHOSE MUSIC I LOVE DON'T PLAY THA BESIDES, TOO MANY PEOPLE WHOSE MUSIC I LOVE DON'T PLAY THA WAY. MUSIC I LOVE DON'T PLAY THA WAY. BILL KEITH WHEN HE FIRST CAME IN WAY. BILL KEITH WHEN HE FIRST CAME IN WAS SUCH A SHOCK TO THE SYSTEM BILL KEITH WHEN HE FIRST CAME IN WAS SUCH A SHOCK TO THE SYSTEM FOR THE BLUEGRASS COMMUNITY THA WAS SUCH A SHOCK TO THE SYSTEM FOR THE BLUEGRASS COMMUNITY THA SOMEONE WAS PLAYING THAT WAY. FOR THE BLUEGRASS COMMUNITY THA SOMEONE WAS PLAYING THAT WAY. Martin: BILL KEITH GREW UP SOMEONE WAS PLAYING THAT WAY. Martin: BILL KEITH GREW UP IN BOSTON IN THE LATE 1940s Martin: BILL KEITH GREW UP IN BOSTON IN THE LATE 1940s AND FIRST LEARNED TO PLAY IN BOSTON IN THE LATE 1940s AND FIRST LEARNED TO PLAY THE FIVE-STRING USING AND FIRST LEARNED TO PLAY THE FIVE-STRING USING PETE SEEGER'S MANUAL. THE FIVE-STRING USING PETE SEEGER'S MANUAL. IN 1963, HE BECAME THE FIRS PETE SEEGER'S MANUAL. IN 1963, HE BECAME THE FIRS NORTHERN BANJO PLAYER THA IN 1963, HE BECAME THE FIRS NORTHERN BANJO PLAYER THA BILL MONROE ASKED TO JOIN NORTHERN BANJO PLAYER THA BILL MONROE ASKED TO JOIN THE BLUEGRASS BOYS. I WORKED WITH BILL MONROE FOR A LITTLE LESS THAN A YEAR, AND I LEARNED SOMETHING EVERY DAY. PEOPLE SEEMED TO LIKE WHA I DID. I MEAN, I'D HEAR ABOU I DID. I MEAN, I'D HEAR ABOU "THAT YANKEE," BUT IT WAS NO I MEAN, I'D HEAR ABOU "THAT YANKEE," BUT IT WAS NO WITH THE "DAMN" "THAT YANKEE," BUT IT WAS NO WITH THE "DAMN" IN FRONT OF IT. WITH THE "DAMN" IN FRONT OF IT. [ LAUGHS ] Martin: THE EUREKA MOMEN FOR KEITH CAME IN 1958 WHEN HE HEARD A FIDDLE PLAYER FROM FOR KEITH CAME IN 1958 WHEN HE HEARD A FIDDLE PLAYER FROM NOVA SCOTIA PLAYING THE SONG HEARD A FIDDLE PLAYER FROM NOVA SCOTIA PLAYING THE SONG "DEVIL'S DREAM." NOVA SCOTIA PLAYING THE SONG "DEVIL'S DREAM." HE IMMEDIATELY GRASPED HOW HE "DEVIL'S DREAM." HE IMMEDIATELY GRASPED HOW HE COULD PUT THE FIDDLE'S MELODIC HE IMMEDIATELY GRASPED HOW HE COULD PUT THE FIDDLE'S MELODIC LINE ON THE BANJO WITH MATCHING COULD PUT THE FIDDLE'S MELODIC LINE ON THE BANJO WITH MATCHING SPEED AND FLUIDITY. LINE ON THE BANJO WITH MATCHING SPEED AND FLUIDITY. OTHERS WERE ALREADY DEVELOPING SPEED AND FLUIDITY. OTHERS WERE ALREADY DEVELOPING A SIMILAR TECHNIQUE, BUT KEITH'S OTHERS WERE ALREADY DEVELOPING A SIMILAR TECHNIQUE, BUT KEITH'S SHOWCASE WITH MONROE ESTABLISHED A SIMILAR TECHNIQUE, BUT KEITH'S SHOWCASE WITH MONROE ESTABLISHED THE MELODIC STYLE FOR THE BANJO. SO THIS BLEW DOWN THE BARN DOORS OF WHAT YOU COULD DO ON THE BANJO. UP TILL THEN, PEOPLE ARE PLAYING SCRUGGS STYLE OR THEY WERE PLAYING SINGLE-STRING STYLE. NO ONE HAD REALLY THOUGHT, AT LEAST IN A MASS WAY, TO PLAY THE SO-CALLED MELODIC OR FIDDLE-TUNE STYLE. 1, 2, 3... Martin: SYRACUSE NATIVE TONY TRISCHKA CAME OF AGE IN THE 1960s AND BELIEVED THERE TONY TRISCHKA CAME OF AGE IN THE 1960s AND BELIEVED THERE WERE NO LIMITS TO WHAT KIND OF IN THE 1960s AND BELIEVED THERE WERE NO LIMITS TO WHAT KIND OF MUSIC THE BANJO COULD PLAY. WERE NO LIMITS TO WHAT KIND OF MUSIC THE BANJO COULD PLAY. TRISCHKA POINTS TO THE BEATLES, MUSIC THE BANJO COULD PLAY. TRISCHKA POINTS TO THE BEATLES, MILES DAVIS, AND AARON COPLAND TRISCHKA POINTS TO THE BEATLES, MILES DAVIS, AND AARON COPLAND AS FORMATIVE INFLUENCES. MILES DAVIS, AND AARON COPLAND AS FORMATIVE INFLUENCES. I THINK THE MAIN THING THA AS FORMATIVE INFLUENCES. I THINK THE MAIN THING THA INFORMED MY SENSIBILITY WAS JUS I THINK THE MAIN THING THA INFORMED MY SENSIBILITY WAS JUS THIS ATTITUDE THAT WAS PREVALEN INFORMED MY SENSIBILITY WAS JUS THIS ATTITUDE THAT WAS PREVALEN IN THE LATER '60s -- THIS ATTITUDE THAT WAS PREVALEN IN THE LATER '60s -- YOU KNOW, LET'S BREAK DOWN IN THE LATER '60s -- YOU KNOW, LET'S BREAK DOWN BARRIERS. YOU KNOW, LET'S BREAK DOWN BARRIERS. ANYTHING CAN BE DONE. BARRIERS. ANYTHING CAN BE DONE. YOU KNOW, IF I WANT TO THROW ANYTHING CAN BE DONE. YOU KNOW, IF I WANT TO THROW A SAXOPHONE ON THIS TUNE, YOU KNOW, IF I WANT TO THROW A SAXOPHONE ON THIS TUNE, I CAN DO THAT. A SAXOPHONE ON THIS TUNE, I CAN DO THAT. IF I WANT TO HAVE A SYNTHESIZER, I CAN DO THAT. IF I WANT TO HAVE A SYNTHESIZER, IF I WANT TO HAVE CRAZY CHORDS, IF I WANT TO HAVE A SYNTHESIZER, IF I WANT TO HAVE CRAZY CHORDS, WHATEVER IT WAS, LET'S TAKE IF I WANT TO HAVE CRAZY CHORDS, WHATEVER IT WAS, LET'S TAKE SOME CHANCES. WHATEVER IT WAS, LET'S TAKE SOME CHANCES. AND WITH BLUEGRASS, THAT WAS SOME CHANCES. AND WITH BLUEGRASS, THAT WAS EASY TO DO BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH AND WITH BLUEGRASS, THAT WAS EASY TO DO BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH A LOT HAD BEEN DONE, THERE WAS EASY TO DO BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH A LOT HAD BEEN DONE, THERE WAS STILL SO MUCH THAT COULD BE A LOT HAD BEEN DONE, THERE WAS STILL SO MUCH THAT COULD BE DONE WITH IT. I THINK AT ALL TIMES I'M AWARE OF HOW LUCKY I AM TO GE TO BE PLAYING WITH TONY. HE'S SUCH AN ADVENTUROUS PLAYER THAT, BEING ON STAGE WITH HIM, I FIND MYSELF MAYBE APPROACHING THE INSTRUMENT KIND OF WITH MORE OF HIS SPIRIT, WHICH IS MAYBE JUST THIS -- HE'S JUST FEARLESS. [ APPLSE ] THANK YOU. Martin: IT'S BEEN SAID THA THE DEEPER YOU DIG INTO ANY LOCAL TRADITION, THE MORE YOU THE DEEPER YOU DIG INTO ANY LOCAL TRADITION, THE MORE YOU FIND SOMETHING GLOBAL. THE SPARROW QUARTET IS A STRING CHAMBER ENSEMBLE, BUILT AROUND THE TWIN BANJOS OF A STRING CHAMBER ENSEMBLE, BUILT AROUND THE TWIN BANJOS OF ABIGAIL WASHBURN BUILT AROUND THE TWIN BANJOS OF ABIGAIL WASHBURN AND BELA FLECK. ABIGAIL WASHBURN AND BELA FLECK. IT WAS WASHBURN'S EXPERIENCE IN AND BELA FLECK. IT WAS WASHBURN'S EXPERIENCE IN CHINA THAT LED HER TO TAKE UP IT WAS WASHBURN'S EXPERIENCE IN CHINA THAT LED HER TO TAKE UP AMERICA'S QUINTESSENTIAL CHINA THAT LED HER TO TAKE UP AMERICA'S QUINTESSENTIAL INSTRUMENT. AMERICA'S QUINTESSENTIAL INSTRUMENT. [ SINGING IN CHINESE LANGUAGE ] BECAUSE I LEARNED ABOU THE BANJO AS A RESULT OF BEING A FOREIGNER IN CHINA AND WANTING SOMETHING ABOUT AMERICAN CULTURE THAT I COULD LOVE SO MUCH, I THINK WHEN I STARTED PLAYING THE BANJO, IT WAS REALLY FOR THE PURPOSE OF SOOTHING MY SOUL AND MAKING ME FEEL MORE AMERICAN. Martin: IN THEIR HANDS, THE BANJO CONTINUES ITS LONG HISTORY AS A PLACE FOR THE BANJO CONTINUES ITS LONG HISTORY AS A PLACE FOR EXCHANGES, HISTORY AS A PLACE FOR EXCHANGES, FINDING COMMON GROUND ACROSS EXCHANGES, FINDING COMMON GROUND ACROSS COMMUNITIES, CULTURES, REGIONS, FINDING COMMON GROUND ACROSS COMMUNITIES, CULTURES, REGIONS, AND EVEN ERAS. COMMUNITIES, CULTURES, REGIONS, AND EVEN ERAS. [ SINGING IN CHINESE LANGUAGE ] BLUEGRASS MAGAZINES ARE CALLING ME HOLLYWOOD'S AMBASSADOR OF THE BANJO. CALLING ME HOLLYWOOD'S AMBASSADOR OF THE BANJO. [ APPLAUSE ] AMBASSADOR OF THE BANJO. [ APPLAUSE ] THAT'S RIGHT, IT WAS... [ APPLAUSE ] THAT'S RIGHT, IT WAS... IT WAS BETWEEN ME THAT'S RIGHT, IT WAS... IT WAS BETWEEN ME AND ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER. 1, 2, 3, 4... Martin: I ALWAYS FELT THA THE SOUND OF THE BANJO SEEMS TO BE IN MANY AMERICANS' DNA. THE SOUND OF THE BANJO SEEMS TO BE IN MANY AMERICANS' DNA. THAT IT WAS SOMEHOW PART OF TO BE IN MANY AMERICANS' DNA. THAT IT WAS SOMEHOW PART OF OUR HISTORY, OUR GENETIC THAT IT WAS SOMEHOW PART OF OUR HISTORY, OUR GENETIC HISTORY. OUR HISTORY, OUR GENETIC HISTORY. WE HEAR IT AND IT'S LIKE WE'VE HISTORY. WE HEAR IT AND IT'S LIKE WE'VE HEARD IT BEFORE. FOR ME, IT CAN BE SIMULTANEOUSLY JOYFUL AND MELANCHOLY. I COULD JUST HEAR THE SOUND JOYFUL AND MELANCHOLY. I COULD JUST HEAR THE SOUND OF IT AND IT COULD MOVE ME. I ACTUALLY CAN'T IMAGINE WHA MY LIFE WOULD BE LIKE WITHOU HAVING LEARNED THE BANJO. THE SOUTHERN HUMANITIES MEDIA FUND. 507 INDIVIDUAL DONORS ON KICKSTARTER. INNOVATIVE FILMS, INC. THE TIDES FOUNDATION. MASSACHUSETTS HUMANITIES... AND OTHERS. A COMPLETE LIST IS AVAILABLE FROM PBS. DISCOVER THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN 4- AND 5-STRING BANJOS. TAKE A TOUR OF RALPH STANLEY'S MUSEUM AND SEE EXCLUSIVE PERFORMANCES. VISIT THE PROGRAM WEB SITE AT... I HOPE YOU'VE ENJOYED "GIVE ME THE BANJO," BUT STAY TUNED, I'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH RODNEY CROWELL AND WE'LL TALK ABOU WHAT THIS MUSIC MEANS TO US. |
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