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The Filth and the Fury (2000)
Well, now, as we come towards | the end of this evening on BBC 1 ,
Michael Fish takes a late | look at the weather. Again, a good deal of cloud. A little rain from time to time | for much of the day, but later on that rain is going | to become ever more persistent and eventually, | I think that rain will probably turn out to be | fairly heavy. What you've seen in any | documentary about any band, before or since, is how great | and wonderful everything is. It's not the truth of it. | It's hell, it's hard. It's horrible. | It's enjoyable to a small degree but if you know what you're | doing it for, you'll tolerate all that because the work, at the end | of the day, is what matters. We managed to offend all the people we were | fucking fed up with. The Labour Party, who'd promised | so much after the war had done so little | for the working class that the working class were | confused about even themselves and didn't even understand what | working class meant anymore. It was cold and miserable. No one had anyjobs. | You couldn't get ajob. Everyone was on the dole. If you weren't born | into money, then you might as well have kissed | your fucking life goodbye, you weren't gonna amount | to anything. The germ, the seed | of the Sex Pistols generated from that. Now is the winter | of our discontent made glorious summer -- | by this sun of York. England was in a state | of social upheaval. It was a very, very | different time. Total social chaos. There was rioting | all over the place. You have to join | the picket line. There were strikes on every kind | of amenity you could think of. Pound power. The TV channels would | go on and off randomly. People were fed up | with the old way. The old way was clearly | not working. There's a little bit | sticking up there. You can see it | in the reflection. Ultra Bright | gets you noticed. You're told at school, | you're told at the job center, you're told by everyone | that you don't stand a chance. And you should just accept | your lot, and get on with it. That's where you're gonna get | the social strife. Hate and war... | and race hate. When you feel powerless... you will grab any power | you can... to retain some kind | of self-respect. Want something on how many | people have been mugged? Don't lay your hand on me... | I'll break your fucking jaw! That man is sad | 'cause he's misinformed, and he's misled, | and he's used. Yes -- I am a racialist. | And why? Who's made me a racialist? This government -- | the conservatives, and every stingy, | stinking councillor who sticks up for the nigger. And I'll stand by my words, 'cause I don't like these people, | never will do! Words are my weapons. Violence is something | I'm not very good at. I don't think you can explain | how things happen, other than sometimes | theyjust should, and the Sex Pistols | should have happened, and did. We went out in the garden. Get off your arse! I was born | in Queen Charlotte's Hospital on September 3rd, 1955... And I lived with my mother | and my stepfather who I thought was my dad, | in the basement in Shepherd's Bush. And I slept at the edge | of their bed on a camp bed. My real dad, he bailed | when I was two. His name was Don Jarvis. | He was an amateur boxer. I definitely didn't feel | wanted as a child. Well, I was born and raised | around West London, the Shepherd's Bush | and Hammersmith area. It was typically | working class. I met Steve 'cause we lived around | the corner from each other. I went to school | near Paul and Steve, next to Wormwood Scrubs | Prison. Me dad was a factory worker, and mum worked at | a powder puff factory. If you were to look back at me | as a school kid, you'd see a very shy, quiet, Iittle church mouse kind of | character in North London. Irish immigrant parents. My mum taught me | to read and write after meningitis, a serious | illness I had at seven, when I was in a coma | for a year. When I came out of hospital, | I was completely brain wiped... Old memories had been erased... | Didn't remember anything at all. Just backwards in everything. It was like having to start | all over again. # Pictures of Lily... # How does it get from the man | to the egg? I actually got put back a year | 'cause I was so stupid. And I would never pay | any attention in class, I was just always | daydreaming. Steve was quite wild at 1 0, | 1 1 years old. I think he was always getting | into trouble then. You should make sure that you've | got the thing around the right way. On the other hand -- | I got four fingers and a thumb. I question everything, | I always have done. If we were doing Shakespeare, a teacher would give me | a hard time, and he wouldn't tell me | what I wanted to know. I'd ask outright questions, and you're not supposed | to do that. You're just supposed | to accept, "lt's Shakespeare. | It's great, you're not." That's not good enough | for me. I would steal. I mean, | that's all I knew how to do. I used to watch my parents steal | at Tescos when I was six. And I was always | getting in trouble. And so that's all | there was -- music. # Flavors of the | mountain streamline... # I was totally into music -- | Roxy Music and Bowie. I thought that musicians fell | from the sky at that point. I didn't think anyone | could be a musician. # School's out forever! # I was very quiet at school | up until about 14 or 1 5, when I decided | I'd had enough. I knew we were being | fobbed off... and basically given a shoddy | third-rate version of reality. So you would not be capable | of questioning your future, because you didn't have one. My mother loved Alice Cooper | as much as I did. She had an extremely | varied taste for everything from lrish folk music | to T. Rex... To some early Bowie. Lots of the heavy metal | that was around at the time, everything. | Extremely Catholic taste. # I want all you skinheads | to get up on your feet # # Put your braces together | and your boots on your feet # There was a lot of black kids | down Shepherd's Bush, and we used to go | to their parties and listen to ska music. It sort of developed | from there really, I think, our interest | in music. I think it was Wally... | the famous Wally Nightingale, who said, | "Well, let's start a band." At the time, Wally said | Steve would be the singer, and I would be on drums. Wally actually played guitar, | and so it was up to each of us to go off and learn | our instruments. We used to rehearse | and rehearse, and just kind of like, | fantasize, really. If I wanted to wear something that T. Rex was wearing | the week before, I'd go down King's Road | and fucking steal it. I always used to end up | at "Let It Rock" which was owned by Malcolm McLaren | and Vivienne Westwood. All the other shops we went in | down King's Road, you'd walk in and you'd get | 1 0 poofs on you, asking you what you want, | "Can I help you?" That's why we'd always | end up at Vivienne's, because it was | like a hang-out. I liked the clothes, | they were different. It weren't all flares | and kipper ties. It was Teddy Boy clothes. | It was a lot more rebellious, and obviously | I was drawn to that. The Teddy Boy thing, for me, was all about the idea | of being a peacock, and standing out in the crowd, | but at the same time feeling a sense that you are | part of the dispossessed, which -- at the end | of my art school term, I thought I could make | a profit by. I became friends with Malcolm because he had a lot | of contacts in music. He seemed to know everybody. He finds a way in | with his blague, which is perfect | for a manager. I walked up and down | the King's Road with complete anger | and resentment. People were extremely absurd, and still stuck into flares | and platform shoes and neatly coiffured | longish hair, and pretending the world | wasn't really happening. It was an escapism | that I resented. There was also | a garbage strike going on for years | and years and years, and there was trash piled | 1 0 foot high. They seem to have | missed that. Wear the garbage bag, | for God's sake -- and then you're dealing | with it. And that's what I | would be doing... I would wrap myself | basically in trash. ...and that so lamely | and unfashionable... that dogs bark at me | as I halt by them. I've got news for you. | Dogs bark at me. In a weird way, that whole | persona of, say, "Richard Ill" helped when I joined | the Sex Pistols. Deformed, hilarious, | grotesque -- and the "Hunchback | of Notre Dame" is in there, and just bizarre characters that somehow or other, | through all of their deformities managed to achieve something. # ...Just for a short while # # She'll scratch in the sand # # Won't let go of his hand... # Steve was a kind | of a kleptomaniac, really. I'm sure he would be | diagnosed as that, you know, because he couldn't keep | his hands in his pockets... which was quite handy, | really. We'd always know a way in round | the back of Hammersmith Odeon, being our local area. # The Jean Genie... # David Bowie was playing | the Ziggy farewell thing, and while the roadies | was asleep in the front row, he'd be going around on stage | snipping all the microphones off. We had great guitars, | amplifiers, great drum kits, | PA system, everything, but, you know, we couldn't | play it properly. To prevent myself | from being beaten up by what were Uxbridge | Teddy Boys coming in, | pilfering in the store, I decided to go down | another route -- rubber and leather | fetish wear. I felt that... that would look fun and exciting | on the King's Road because it would have | a similar effrontery that Teddy Boy clothes had, | except it would be new. Malcolm's shop interested me because of the rubber wear. Fascinating that people can get | themselves into such a predicament that the only way they can | have sex is in a face mask and a rubber T-shirt. With a bollock weight. How does it become that way? | It becomes like that for you because you just cannot | face reality. Steve just came back one day, | and said, "l found a bass player." | I said, "Who's that?" He said, "This guy, Glen, | who works in Malcolm's shop." Lo and behold, I started | rehearsing with them. They had so much equipment that | Steve had "assembled," shall we say? We were always pestering | Malcolm to manage us, and he said he'd be interested | if we got rid of Wally. He came down once, he said, | "You shouldn't sing, you should play guitar. | You should get a singer." We realized wally was gonna | have to go. Alas, poor [ Wally ]... I knew him, Horatio. Round this time | there was a group of guys who came from the north side | of London, who used to come | into the shop probably for the same reasons | we did, you know, on a Saturday, | whatever... there was the group of them, | apparently all called "John." Steve and Paul never believed | we were all called John... They could never take that. Sid's real name is John. Theyjust thought we were Iike a "Clockwork Orange" gang, | you know -- "The Johns." I've no idea why | they picked me out... other than they thought I looked | well different from the pack. We arranged to meet John | one night... in a pubjust down the road. We had a few pints, and then | we came back to the shop. We gave the singer | an audition in my shop, later on, | after the pub had closed, for him to imitate, and for him | to try to sing along with an Alice Cooper track | on the jukebox called "Eighteen", | which I adored. And he sung it like | "The Hunchback of Notre Dame." # I'm eighteen # # And I don't know | what I want # I always did view myself as one damn ugly fucker. I certainly weren't | no belle of the ball. John just started... going into spasms | in front of the jukebox, and singing, | and doing his act, what later became what everyone | knows and loves, you know. And I knew right away then | that he was the singer. He was... gonna be the one, | really. I personally wouldn't | have got him in the band, even though he looked | like a star. I thought he was a wanker for taking | the piss, and he wasn't serious... But then, after speaking to him | for a while, I realize that | that was his own insecurity to take the piss because | he wasn't really a singer. John was from a different world | from me and Cookie. He's more of an intellectual, | John. I knew what Steve was. I knew he had potential | to be a great person. There's something in him | that's genuine. I can see that there's a tragedy | in him, just like in me. Deep down inside, | they're wounded people. And then there's Glen... waffling on about nice things | like the Beatles. We're the very first people | to call each other cunts outright -- face on -- | and know it. And we are. We all are... | All in our way. You put all this | together, and it... it makes for high drama, | a bit like a Harold Pinter play. It shouldn't work, | but it does. All our first rehearsals | were a nightmare. I couldn't hold | a damn note, Paul couldn't really keep time, | I couldn't play guitar. I fucking hated it. | It was just a fucking noise, but I just stuck in there, | because that's all I had. # ...no lip, child # # And I mean what I say # # Don't give me | no lip, child # # You'll be sorry one day # Oh, fuck, it's awful. | I hate songs like that. Right from the start, | we'd argue -- bitterly, bitterly, | from day one rehearsal, pure, full-on row. It would be constantly, "You know, you've gotta | learn to sing." And it's like, "Why?" "Says who? | Who wrote the rules here?" But that's all right, you need | that difference of character. I didn't think, | if I could be a sculptor, I necessarily needed clay... I suddenly thought, | "You can use people!" And it's people that I used, | like an artist. I manipulated. So, creating something | called the "Sex Pistols" was my painting, | my sculpture, my little "Artful Dodgers." Humph -- | you don't create me... I am me. There is a difference. Everyone on the planet | knows Malcolm's full of shit. He's convinced people now | that he's full of shit, by all the shit that he says, | it gets worse and worse. And the idea of the name | "Sex Pistols" was sexy young assassins. | "Pistol" meaning a gun -- and then "pistol" meaning | a kind of penis. There was never a relationship | with the manager -- for me, other than he would always try | to steal my ideas, and claim them | to be his own. I had to accept | that he was the manager because he was their manager | before I joined the band. I think they're the same | fucking star sign. They're the same kind | of personality. They were always | butting heads. It was definitely John | who steered the ship into the way we looked. Torn, safety pin, | zips all over the gaff, third rate tramp thing. That was poverty, really. | Lack of money. The arse of your | pants falls out, you just use safety pins. And I always used | to call him "rotten," 'cause his fucking teeth | were like, dreadful, they looked like dog-ends, and -- itjust stuck. Steve always looked like | a hairdresser on the high road. He had a perm, and unfortunately, | it became permanent. I don't have any heroes. They're all useless. I mean, there's no bands around, | is there? None. None that are accessible. It's Emerson, Lake and Palmer. All those super bands | at that time -- Emerson, Lake and Palmer, | Yes -- they were dinosaurs, They were dreadful, because | they were fucking boring. Uriah Heep... | Fucking, you know... Gong! I wanted the Sex Pistols | to compete with the Bay City Rollers! Can you imagine Johnny Rotten | singing "Shang-a-Lang"? # Shang-a-lang # # Shang-a-lang # # Shang-a-lang, | shang-a-lang # Ugh-hh! Stradivarius -- | was a terrible painter... and Rembrandt -- | made rotten violins. I got interested in the arts, and ended up going | to St. Martin's for a year. I walked in there and asked | to see the social secretary, and this guy said, | "Well, I am." And it was Sebastian Conran. And he said, "Well, what's | the name of your band?" And I said, "The Sex Pistols," | and Sebastian went -- "The Sex Pistols? | Oh, we must have them." I remembered being | just fucking terrified, and I had to take a Mandrax | to calm down. Hello. Hello, | I'm pissed again. I think I took two Mandrax. | We went up there, and it was all these arty-farty | fuckers in this one room. There was no stage, and there was another band | called "Bazooka Joe" that Adam Ant | was the bass player in, and we were all | knocking the pints back -- and it was time to go on, | and the Mandrax were kicking in, and we started playing... # ...you to know | that I ain't your baby # # I want you to know | I don't care # I remembered looking | at John, and thinking, "This is fucking fantastic. | I love this." It was like one of them | magical moments. Everything in the universe | fucking clicked. # What'cha gonna do | about it... # Glen definitely wanted to be | on "Top of the Pops." # I want you to know | I don't care... # # I want you to know | that I love you baby... # To me, that's really naff. It's saying, "l want you to know | I don't care" Comes quite naturally. If I take other people's songs, | I put a twist on them. Finally -- we're actually | playing in a band, I ain't the singer, | I'm comfortable playing the guitar -- mind you, | I was fucked up -- and next thing I know, | they've pulled the plug on us, and it was all over. | We're just like out of it, and wandering around | down Piccadilly Circus. I die of nerves | before I go on stage, cause I don't know | what I'm gonna do. And because of that, | I'd have to just pull things out from deep down inside. Hello -- # 76 trombones | to the hit parade # Look, there's Arthur Askey | in there. There's Ken Dodd -- | # We are the Daddymen... # # We come from Notty Ash # There's even... "There's nothing wrong | with me." - Do we know any... | - Oi... Do we know any other | fucking songs that we could do? What England didn't understand | about the Sex Pistols is that we are music hall. Shall we do "Roadrunner"? I hate that. | It's fucking awful. Stop it. Stop it, | it's fucking awful! There was always a sense | of piss take, and fun to it. Shout out what -- how it starts. | What's the first line? There's a sense of comedy | in the English, even in your grimmest moment. Right-- can you start | at the beginning? I can't hear you, Paul. You laugh. Who wants a bunk-up? Who wants a bunk-up? Who wants a bunk-up? # With the radio on... # "...Deform'd, unfinish'd..." # Roadrunner, roadrunner... "Deform'd, unfinish'd..." Deform'd, unfinish'd... One week we'd be | playing up in high Wycombe opening up | for Screaming Lord Sutch, and I remember seeing | some faces, guys with long hair. "When all other indications | suggest..." When all other indications | suggest... Then, a week later, | we'd be playing at "The Nashville," ...that we're in | for a dirty night. "...a dirty night." And I'd see the same people | with their hair cut short, and wearing a ripped-up | t-shirt. # Goin' a thousand miles | an hour # Every gig you'd see a few more, | and a few more, and a few more, people who just got converted. The Sex Pistols definitely | created new environments. It was incredible good to see | the audience being individual. # ...radio on... # # Roadrunner, roadrunner... # "Ain't nothing wrong with me." Oh, God, I don't know it. | Fucking ridiculous. There was some absolutely stunning | original people out there. "There's nothing wrong with me." Sioux cat woman... That woman required a lot | of skill, style and bravery... to look like a cat. There was a couple | of years there where it was stunning. People that had no self-respect | suddenly started to view themselves as beautiful in | not being beautiful. Women started | to appreciate themselves as not second class citizens. Punk made that clear. I've always talked | to the audience in a one-to-one way | after gigs. "Where do you live? | What's life like for you?" Absolute basics. # She put her bicycle # # under a tree # # I think that girl took | a fancy to me... # But it was fun, I guess, | talking to them. Actually, I didn't give a | fuck about talking about the band, I just wanted to get | me dick sucked, really. That was always the first thing | on my mind. I wasn't interested in talking | about politics after the show, I didn't even know who the fucking | Prime Minister was at the time. # Let's have a ride | on your bike # I pretty much just wanted | to have a bunk-up, Iike any good teenager does. # I was born with a plastic | spoon in my mouth... # # You didn't look me | in the eye # # Crocodile tears | are what you cry # "Substitute" I liked... but I only liked | certain phrases in it. So I'd twist them about. # You're so fat, | I see right through... # "Oh, no you can't do that, | it's a classic," says Glen. Fuck off! I think when we started | writing our own stuff... is when it got | more interesting. Because that's when it became | our own musical force. Glen was coming up with most | of the ideas for songs, and John would just be | sitting in the corner, scribbling his lyrics out, | there and then, while we were playing along | to it. We had something, | we had a spirit. But what we didn't have, | we didn't have a way of putting that into words... which is what John had. The first line I wrote, | was "l am an antichrist," and I couldn't think of a damn | thing that rhymed with it, and "anarchist" just fitted | really nicely. The only thing I didn't like | about "Anarchy" was the dreadful rhyme -- "antichrist -- anarchist," | it used to always make me wince. Oh, some decent fucking music | at last! # Right... # # Now # # I am an antichrist # # I am an anarchist # # Don't know what I want, | but I know how to get it # # I wanna destroy passerby # # 'Cause l... # # Wanna be... # # Anarchy # This band wasn't about | making people happy, it was attack -- attack, attack, attack. # Anarchy for the UK # # It's coming sometime | maybe # # I give a wrong time, | stop a traffic line # # Your future dream | is a shopping scheme # # 'Cause l... # # I wanna be... # # Anarchy # Sid, he was the total | Pistols fan, really. I fucking loved that band. Along with a couple | of other kids that knew John, I think I was about the biggest | fan they ever had. # How many ways to get | what you want # # I use the best | I use the rest... # Rotten was like, incredible. Just like unbelievable. And Steve was fucking great | as well. Glen was a cunt, as always. # Wanna be... # # Anarchy # What made the Sex Pistols | different was John Rotten, 'cause he was a total | anti-star. He didn't like wiggle his bum | or shake his hips, he did robot dances, | and just fucked around, and took the piss | out of everybody in a real nasty, snidy way. # ls this the MPLA # # Or is this the UDA # # Or is this the IRA # # I thought it was the UK... # The Bromley Contingent | all the front row lot, they all ended up in bands, hence you got | the punk movement. # I am an antichrist # # I am an anarchist # To see us playing like, | just three chords gave the message that anybody | could do this. Which was great -- | all these other bands started -- I enjoyed watching the Clash, | I enjoyed the Damned. Itjust happened so quick, | and it was so exciting, you'd think, "Wow, there's | really a movement starting here." One chick came down | one night wearing a polka dot | see-through mac -- and nothing else. I actually saw one tourist | stagger as she came into the club. He was so amazed | by her appearance. Sid was amazing, | because he was a stand out character | in the crowd, because he wasn't | in the band then. He invented the pogo | all by himself. He'd just sort ofjump on | the shoulders of some people to get a better look. In the end he just started | jumping up and down anyway. Yeah, I started it 'cause | I hated the Bromley Contingent, and I invented a dance | that would involve being able to knock them | all over the fucking "1 00 Club," so I just used to | throw myself about. Leap up like horizontal, | and sideways, just like boing... Boing, boing, boing. You'd like land on them, | and smash them into the floor. Yeah... My name is Nick Kent. I'm a... A once-renowned journalist | for "The New Musical Express." Well, Sid, | as he was known then, who I'd encountered once before, | I'd not actually met him -- was obviously under | the influence of some sort of amphetamines or extreme adrenaline | propulsing stimulants. Sid Vicious was looking | for a fight. Just fucking watch out, pal, | all right? Or otherwise I'll fucking | slice you open. He hit me over the head | a few times with a chain, which didn't require | any stitches, fortunately. I sort of wandered upstairs | in a complete... Iather of blood | and confusion. I truly admire | their attitude, I thought it was... | very brave. Immediately before this attack | occurred, John Rotten was deep | in discussion with Sid. I figure that John was -- | "Johnny" -- as he's known, was setting me up, | 'cause this is all true. In fact, Sid got the name | "Vicious" from that fight. John Rotten christened him | "Vicious" from that fight. Said he, falling | against the door. Sid Vicious got the name | after my pet hamster, that bit him one day... when he was trying | to be sweet to it. And its name was Sid, | and he really liked that. "Your Sid was vicious." The group were doing a very | private, I think, secret show, at "The Screen on the Green," | lslington. I went along with a couple | of our A&R people, and Chris Wright, | the chairman. Knocked on the door, somebody opened | the door, and said, "Fuck off!" Well we weren't gonna be | dissuaded, so we sort of tapped on the door | again and said, "We're invited." And a head popped 'round again, | and said, "Fuck Off!" They were a particularly | ugly band. # We're so pretty, | oh, so pretty # # We're vacant # # We're so pretty, | oh, so pretty # # Vacant # # Don't ask us to attend | 'cause we're not all there # # Don't pretend, | 'cause I don't care # And there was only a little bit | of a scuffle, nothing much. I've known musicians | to defend themselves if the thing goes | onto the stage, But I've never seen musicians | drop their instruments And sort of dive in | at a small scrap And extend it, | and forget about the music. And I found that a bit much. I went back two or three times | after that, just to make sure that... | you know, they were as bad as I thought they were | the first time. # ...and we don't care! # Ever! Why all the infamous | language? "lnfamous language"? | You're joking. I speak nothing but the fucking | English language. And if that's "lnfamous," | Then, huh-huh-huh, tough titters. Basically, the Pistols' | attitude to the press was one of completely | like "Fuck you," you know? I mean, just absolutely | "Fuck you." Which was great -- I mean, | it was the perfect antidote to all the 99% of other | stupid rock groups who like, licked the arse | of the press, and, I mean, it worked | perfectly for them. Mostjournalists | are masochists. They're just toss pots, | most of them. Don't accept the old order. | Get rid of it. We've been there | for five years or more, just waiting for this to happen, | and now it's happened. It had to, it was the only thing | that could happen. It was the only thing that | didn't come from the industry -- it came from the kids themselves. | Something had to come from the kids. # Come on and join us # # We're the young nation # # Come on and join us # # Nationwide... # # Right... # # Now # # I am an antichrist # # I am an anarchist... # This group are leaders | of a whole new teenage cult that seems to be on the way | to being as big as mods and rockers were | in the '60s. The cult is called "punk," | the music, "punk rock." Basic rock music -- | raw, outrageous and crude, Iike their fan magazine, | "Sniffing Glue." I think our music | is very honest. It's the most honest thing that's | been happening in the last 1 5 years. Nothing to beat it. Finding places to play | is becoming harder, thanks to the reputation punks | are getting as troublemakers, and the Sex Pistols themselves | even had to hire a strip club to get their music heard. | Nowhere else would take them. # Anarchy # From the street. I find the Pistols | very believable, I find it's all related | to violence... in the mind, | not in the body. Malcolm began to get | a little bit serious about it, and he brought in a lawyer | by the name of Fisher... That dreadful lawyer whose name | I refuse to speak -- There was... basically an auction | between Polydor and EMl. We came up with a contract | which gave the Pistols total creative control. Malcolm decided | to go with EMl. I went into the A&R department, | I said, "Who are these crazy guys?" They said, "lt's the Sex Pistols, | we just signed them. They're tremendous." And my first actual plug | for them was, after all this, was by phoning up | the "Today" program. They phoned back, | said, "Yes... We'd like to use | the Sex Pistols," you know, "Will that be okay?" I said, | "l'm sure it'll be all right." They slung us in the green room, | with a fridge, and I remember downing about fucking four bottles | of "Blue Nun," and I was fucking just -- | having a good old time, pissed at this point, | by the time we went out there. And that's all I remember. They are "punk rockers." | the new craze, they tell me. They are heroes -- not the nice, clean, | Rolling Stones. They are as drunk as I am. | They are clean by comparison, they are a group | called "the Sex Pistols," I am told that that group... have received 40,000 | from a record company. Doesn't that seem to be | slightly opposed to their anti-materialistic | view of life? - No, the more, the merrier. | - Really? - Oh, yeah. | - Tell me more about it. We've fucking spent it. - I don't know. Have you? | - Yeah, it's all gone. No one even heard that one, | 'cause he was drunk himself, and he wasn't paying attention | when he asked, "What did you do with the money?" | and I said, "We fucking spent it." - Tell me more about it. | - We've fucking spent it. - I don't know. Have you? | - Yeah, it's all gone. - Really? | - Down the boozer. Really? | Good Lord! Now, I want to know | one thing: Beethoven, Mozart, Bach | and Brahms have all died... - They're all heroes of ours. | - Really? What were you saying? - They're wonderful people. | - Are they? - Yes, they really turn us on. | - But they're dead. Suppose they turn | other people on? That's just | their tough shit. Rotten, he slipped up and said | "shit" under his breath. - It's what? | - Nothing, a rude word. - Next question. | - No, no... What was the rude word? - Shit. | - Was it really? Good heavens. - You frighten me to death. | - All right, so you play games... He's like your dad, | ain't he, this geezer? Or your granddad. Are you worried, or are you just | enjoying yourself? - Enjoying myself. | - Are you? That's what I thought. - I always wanted to meet you. | - Did you really? Siouxsie, she was just being | coy with him, And he said, | "Oh, maybe we'll meet after?" We'll meet afterwards, | shall we? You dirty sod. | You dirty old man. Steve completely understood that he was talking | to a drunk as you would a drunk | in a pub, and he just topped him. Go on, you've got | another five seconds, - say something outrageous. | - You dirty bastard. I just remember | this fucking cunt just started provoking us, | and we coated him off. - Go on -- again. | - You dirty fucker. - What a clever boy. | - What a fucking rotter. That's it for tonight. | The other rocker, Eamonn, and I'm saying nothing else about | him, will be back tomorrow. I'll be seeing you soon. | I hope I'm not seeing you again. From me, though, | goodnight. McLaren was there. | He was terrified. He was shitting himself. He was death-white, | you know, going "We'd fucking better | get out of here, quick!" But the very next day, | it was all his big idea. It was perfect stand-up comedy. | It was Arthur Askey. # Well, I don't mind | the things that you say # # I don't even mind | goin' out of my way # # I try and do | these things for you # # Why should I do it? | I'm always untrue # That's all, a four letter word | done everything. # Goin' outta my head # I loved it... I fucking loved it. | It was like finally, I've arrived. Let the circus begin. # The bog is no place | to see your face... # The committee have decided, that in fairness | to the public of Derby, the Sex Pistols will not | perform here tonight, but we are quite agreeable | that the three other groups that have already been booked | will go on. For the last 1 2 months, | punk rock has become almost a battle cry | in British society. For many people, it's a bigger | threat to our way of life than Russian Communism | or hyper-inflation, and it generates more popular | excitement than either of those. We hope tonight, | by this protest to make Wales know, and to let | the people of this town know, that we do protest | and it is by no fault of ours, that this thing | has come to Caerphilly. When your local council | didn't ban the punk rock concert, you actually went down there | and tried to stop it yourself? No, we never went | to stop it at any time. We went there with a very | positive Gospel message. We have done everything | humanly possible to ban this thing | and to stop it. Sir, can I ask you why | you're here tonight? Because I am... | recognized as a Christian. If I thought one of mine was | in there, I'd go drag them out. They're outside, freezing. | We're in here, we're all right. This one's about | Harold Wilson -- It's called "Liar." # You lie, lie, lie, | lie lie... # # Sleep in heavenly peace # # Should have realized... # On the "Anarchy" tour | we was actually followed everywhere across the country, | from gig to gig, and we had to turn up | to show willingness to play, so presumably we would get | the money, although it looked pound to a penny | that they wasn't gonna let us play. Mr. Stabler, you can't watch | punk concerts in Newcastle either? The decision was made when | we discovered it was mere children that would be watching | the performance. The average adult will go see | a strip show, or a blue film. Banned in this town, and being | banned in that town. And it really wasn't | about us playing any more, it was about this controversy | that we were like, throwing up on stage, | and spitting. And I remember going | across the Pennines, being followed by a fleet | of press people, and we went to stop | to get coffee and a sandwich, and we could hear what these | press people were saying. One press guy | said to the other, "Did you get anything?" | and the other one said, "l got two 'fucks' and a 'shit' | from Johnny Rotten." Can I now turn to Bernard | Brook-Partridge in London... Most of these groups would be | vastly improved by sudden death. The worst, currently, | are the Sex Pistols. They are the antithesis | of humankind... And the whole world | would be vastly improved by their total and utter | non-existence. # You're a liar # # Lie, lie, lie, lie... # The day Johnny Rotten goes back on | the words he writes in his songs, is the day he dies. | I know that for a fact. I think people did feel | that this was... this was a sort of | a downhill thing, and was a monster in our | presence, and actually would, cause problems of image | for the record industry. At that point, someone at EMI | took the decision that they no longer wished | to have the act on the label. This is about EMl. They're major labels | with major attitudes, and they want everything to be | fake and easily manipulative. And you can't be having that | with people like us. - Let's call it chaos! | - Itjust doesn't happen. # An unlimited supply # # And there is no reason why # They told us | that they were unable to continue | to promote the act -- and would we kindly leave. # E-M-l # "Let's call it chaos!" # E-M-l # "Let's call it chaos!" # E-M-l # "Let's call it chaos!" Ouch. # ...With an unlimited | supply # # That was the only reason # # We all had to say goodbye # # Unlimited supply -- | E-M-l # # There is no reason why -- | E-M-l # # Unlimited supply # # E-M-l # # Hello, EMI # # Good -- bye! # It started with John and Glen | falling out, really. Over what, | I don't really know, just a clash of personalities, | et cetera. When you talk | like an arsehole... and look like an arsehole, | you're an arsehole. There was obviously a big | problem between me and John. I felt that once John | got his face in the papers, he'd become | a different person -- which I didn't | particularly like. When we went to Holland, my last | gig with them was at the Paradiso. I felt everybody | was on my case. He was always complaining | that we were too outrageous, and it's a funny thing, | but he was always washing himself. Whenever we'd get | into a hotel, he'd be washing his | fucking feet in the sink. Me and Steve were like that, | I suppose, and John always felt | on the outside. He thought by bringing Sid in, | he would have someone there, Iike a partner, you know? Someone a bit closer to him. I'd heard that they'd been | rehearsing with Sid. Nobody had the courtesy | to tell me. # I've seen you in the mirror | when the story began # # And I fell in love with you | I love your mortal sin... # It had become like | a cartoon strip band, as opposed to a rock and roll | band that actually plays and does something for real. # I got no emotions | for anybody else # # You better understand | I'm in love with myself # Glen had reached a point | where he decided that the band's direction | was absolutely alien to anything he wanted | to be associated with. That's absolute bollocks. I think one of Malcolm's games | was, sort of divide and conquer. Malcolm had told John | I'd said a lot of stuff which I hadn't said, | and Malcolm had told me John had said a lot | of stuff that he hadn't said. I respect him. | I always did. He taught them to play. I kind of regretted | him leaving... because Sid couldn't play | a fucking note. # ...see his picture hanging | on your wall # I feel guilty about Sid, because I wish I could have | told him more... about what to expect. Well... I was getting | my own group together, "The Flowers of Romance," and Rotten asked me | if I wanted to join the -- there was this big hoo-ha, | and Malcolm said, "lt's all a big secret, man," | you know... "Come down to this pub | at such and such and that," and I thought they were | gonna do me over 'cause I didn't turn up to one | of Rotten's parties or something. He gets touchy | over things like that. And... I went down there | and he said, "Do you wanna play bass | for the Sex Pistols?" # Turn the page and it's | the scoop of the century # # Don't wanna be I seven | I've had enough of this # # This is brainwash | and this is a clue # # To the stars | who fooled you # Sid was my mate. Very, very close mate. He'd just -- | Iaugh at everything. Genius in that way, | and his name was John. # I got you in the camera, | I got you in my camera # # A second of your life | ruined for life # We'd do lots of mad things | together, me and Sid. We used to busk too, | for money... Me with a violin, | Sid with a tambourine, maybe a broken guitar, | doing Alice Cooper songs. "l Love the Dead" | was our favorite. That would get us | the most money. "Just please shut up." "Here -- take the money, | go somewhere else." Why dost thou spit -- | at me? The best time of the band of all | was when Sid firstjoined, and he was really determined | to learn the bass and fit in and be part | of the band. He definitely looked great, | Sid... Yeah, he definitely was a face. | A real laugh. He used to take the piss | out of Rotten. All I did was cash in | on the fact that I'm good-looking, | and I have a good figure, and girls like me. What do they want, a fucking | angel in flares and an anorak? 'Cause if they want that... that ain't me, baby. Found myself in this rather | curious little shop, in the company of Johnny Rotten, | Sid Vicious, and other assorted | Sex Pistols. Hello, Mr. Nimmo. And the last they heard, | a donkey had him cornered up a back alley in Fulham. After EMI dumped | the Sex Pistols, A&M Records picked them up, and staged a contract signing | ceremony in front of Buckingham Palace. Malcolm was honest | in one respect... That he always said | he had no control over us. And he didn't. And a bloody good punch-up, | in a limo, before a signing | was not really unusual. It was a good fight, too. "No, you're the biggest cunt," "No, you're the worst cunt," "No, you're the cunt," | et cetera, et cetera. There was only one cunt | I wanted to smack, and that was Malcolm. | Then the door opened, and then we had to do | the signing. At this point, | the Sex Pistols, despite having been fired, | were not exactly suffering. Here they were, | signing a new contract that could make them | a lot of money, and they already had a song | to record for A&M in honor of the Queen's | jubilee. Sid's father | was a Grenadier guard. Imagine that -- Sid signing | a very, very expensive contract, while his old man's on guard | inside the fence. It was genius. According to the story, | after this happy signing ceremony, everyone went back to | the A&M offices to celebrate. The four Sex Pistols | apparently overcelebrated, and lived up to | their public image of thorough obnoxiousness. - How are you doing? | - Get away. When we got to A&M records, total bedlam broke out there | as well. I can't remember | what happened, but the secretaries | were terrified, and Sid's foot | was bleeding. I had a black eye, | Malcolm was running around, Steve was flirting | with all the secretaries, and then we got in the car, | then went to the studio, where we were recording "God Save | the Queen" with Chris Thomas, and there's this school next door, | and all the kids come running out 'cause we were there. | And they called the police as well. It was just total mad day. The next day we woke up, | Malcolm said, "Well, A&M have fired you." The anti-establishment | Sex Pistols called in | the establishment press to protest | what had happened to them. We feel that we're like | some contagious disease. When you walk | in and out of a company, and the guyjust gives you -- | "Look... Take this money and don't come back." What are you supposed | to think about that? Have you had the money? Yes, they gave us the check | last night. Makes it very clear | where their heads are at... Nowhere. We weren't the nice boys | they thought we were. We aren't nice boys. We were fucking | nasty little bastards. And we still are. Virgin Records signed them, and Johnny Rotten | got to record his Queen's jubilee | memorial song -- "God Save the Queen." You don't write | "God Save the Queen" because you hate | the English race. You write a song like that | because you love them, and you're fed up | with them being mistreated. # God save the Queen # # The fascist regime # # They made you a moron # # Potential H-bomb # # God save the Queen # # She ain't no human being # # There is no future # # ln England's dreamin' # # Don't be told | what you want # # Don't be told | what you need # # There's no future, | no future # # No future for you # # God save the Queen # # We mean it, man # # We love our Queen # # God saves # # God save the Queen # # 'Cause tourists are money # # Our figurehead... # Shall I be plain? | I wish the bastards dead. # Oh, God save history # # God save the mad parade # # Oh, Lord God have mercy # # All crimes are paid # # When there's no future | how can there be sin # # We're the flowers | in your dustbin # # We're the poison | in your human machine # # We're the future -- | your future # # God save the Queen # # We mean it, man # # We love our Queen # # God saves # I really don't think what he | was singing about was outrageous. He's not saying "Let's kill her," | or "Let's fuck her." He was pointing out | what the truth was. # God save the Queen # # We mean it, man # # There is no future # # ln England's dreaming # # No future # # No future # # No future for you # # No future # # No future # # No future for me # Chop off his head, man. # No future # # No future # # No future for you # # No future # # No future for you # It alienated | the entire country. If they'd have hung us | at traitor's gate, it would have been applauded | by 56 million. You can't beat that, man. | That's National Gallery status. It's raining silver | in "The Sun" this week. "God Save the Queen" was the alternative | national anthem. What we offered to England... was... a pivotal point. | We were the maypole that they danced around. # Go away, I hate you, | hate you, hate you # # Go away, I hate you, | far across the sea # Where better to celebrate | the release of "God Save the Queen" than down the Thames, | and start playing outside the Houses | of Parliament? "God Save the Queen," and | "Anarchy in the UK" on Jubilee Day. I just wanted out | of the country -- and there was no way out. Ever get the feeling | you've been trapped? This is obscene, | the whole thing. All of this, | it's bullshit. Well, I've had enough | of your bullshit. I'm too cold now. | I'm going back downstairs. I loved it. I was getting | my 20 quid a week, thinking everything | was great. I didn't wanna fucking deal | with the business side of it, I didn't really question it. I was McLaren's friend | before the band, so I trusted McLaren | like a friend. # Too many problems | why am I here # # Don't need to be me | 'cause you're all too clear # # I can see there's something | wrong with you # # But what do you | expect me to do? # # At least I gotta know | what I wanna be # # Don't come to me | if you need pity # # Are you lonely | you got no one # # You get your body | in suspension # # That's no problem # # Problems # # Problems | the problem is you # The reason we're here | is because it's the Sex Pistols. If it wasn't the Sex Pistols | there'd be no interest in this, in this... boat tonight. Look, we've got Richard Branson | looking like "Catweazel." # They know a doctor | gonna take you away # # They take you away | and throw away the key # # They don't want you | and they don't want me # # You got a problem... # What happened to Malcolm? # Problems, problems # # Problems, problems # # Problems, problems... # # Problems... problems... # # Problems... problems. # We declared war on england... without meaning to. At eight, the Muppets' | "Halfway Down the Stairs," at seven, the Alessi Brothers | and "O, Lori," at number six, | Emerson, Lake and Palmer and "Fanfare | for the Common Man," at five, The Electric Light | Orchestra, "Phone Line," four -- | Stranglers and "Peaches," three -- | Queen, "Lover Boy," and two, | Eagles, "Hotel California," the Sex Pistols' current record | "God Save the Queen" is at number one | in the Capital Hit Line today. But the IBA, which administers | the broadcasting act has advised us that | particularly at this time, this record is likely | to cause offense to a number | of our listeners, and have asked us not to play it | in our normal programming. "God Save the Queen" | was never number one. There was no number one | that week. Whatever we were saying | and doing really hit a nerve, | a raw nerve. It was fucked up. I still had to bunk | on the subways, couldn't afford a cab, and all of that the management | didn't want to deal with. Completely | from there on in, walking around | the streets of London on my own, | was impossible. I would be attacked | on sight. You felt like a werewolf | being, like hounded. Constantly in fear | of your life, really. "God Save the Queen", | eh, John? I got a machete blade | ripped down this leg, and the blade stuck | in my kneecap... and they couldn't | pull it out, so I had to like, | walk off with that. I got a stiletto blade | through my wrist here, Iucky not to have had | one of my eyes gouged out, 'cause a bottle | was shoved in here. Got to the hospital... first thing they do | is call the police. And I get arrested for | "suspicion of causing an affray." And the telephone call | from the editor... who would say, "Malcolm, | we'll print anything, 'cause you sell more papers than we ever did | on Armistice Day." It's 7:00 on Wednesday, | the 1 7th of August. Elvis Presley, at one time | known to millions as "The King | of Rock and Roll," has died suddenly | at the age of 42. The king of rock and roll | died yesterday. He was found face down | on a bathroom floor. There had been | numerous reports that Presley | was a heavy drug user. All that time | when Malcolm was saying, "We can't get gigs in the UK," | we could have played abroad. We could have fucking done that, | couldn't we, Julien? Who needs the fucking UK? | It's a load offucking shit. Got a lot of wax | in my ears today. So we were left doing nothing. | I was just sitting there, with -- Iike, we didn't even | fucking rehearse, nobody wanted to fucking | rehearse or do anything. So, like, you know -- | it's a logical conclusion, d'you know what I mean? | Boredom... And, like, I'm that way inclined | so what do I turn to? No, I couldn't take them off. My nose is broken, | I'm keeping them on. And she showed up with Sid, | and I was thinking, "Who the fuck is this cunt? | This is an 'orrible person." It was like, | the weirdest thing... I'd never felt such | a negative energy from someone. There was just a dark cloud... Over this bird, | and I fucking hated her. The first time | I came across Nancy, I think Steve was shagging her | in the toilet. I didn't like her. Nancy was a hooker... That was on the coattails | of the "New York Dolls." And I actually introduced her | to Sid. Shame on me. In New York I was dancing | without any clothes on. I used to go down to the guys | and dance in front of them, and then get | tips off them, and you'd do | a little hand job, you know, for... ten bucks, | or they wanted to fuck. I just -- you know... did it, you know, I just -- there wasn't really | anything to it, I just give good blowjobs. "lt'll rip your balls off." I read the first Sex Pistols | review, which was shit, and I said, | "l gotta get over there." I wanted to see | something exciting. Nancy, as his heroin dealer/ | girlfriend... Was pumping him up with gear | every chance she could get. He didn't like me | 'cause I was ajunkie. He tried to keep me and Sid | apart for months, months, months. Everyone knows when a bird | starts poking her nose into a rock and roll band, | that it's suicidal. 'Cause that's when he really | started getting fucked up, and not caring about playing. And I didn't want | anything to do with her. We did everything | to get rid of Nancy that was physically | possible. I even dangled her out of a window one night, | by her ankles. And the rest of the band | hated me... 'cause I was with | the New York Dolls -- Johnny and Jerry, | and they were junkies. # Fix # # My baby... # They definitely brought | a lot of heroin around, too. And I know Sid was totally into | Johnny Thunders. I like the New York Dolls, 'cause they were nasty and mean, | and they wore makeup, and they didn't | give a shit. And they played | godawful rock and roll. And they had good names, | and good hairdos. It definitely had | a big effect on me. I thought he was | the coolest thing ever -- Thunders, at that time. I started stealing | some of his stances, and his looks, and, you know, | his moves on stage. I look back at it now, | and I'm embarrassed at how much I fucking was trying | to copy him. I didn't need to do that. | I had my own thing already. My invention | to the Sex Pistols was the hanky on the head. It was kind offunny, actually, | when I used to see fans doing it, I thought, "Oh, look, they're | doing something I invented." Cunt, shit, bollocks. Bill Grundy's a poof! Because I've made my self-esteem | rise an inch. Leatherjackets | came with the heroin. Vampirish goth look | came with the heroin. This ruined Sid... Here, want one of these? Because he was a complete | gullible fashion victim. Sid went straight into the worst | kind of rock and roll idiot you could ever hope to have | a nightmare about. He didn't get that | what we were doing was -- Who wants | some safety pins? Our culture, | our life. Who else wants | something? Come on if you want | something, you cunts! Alls I can tell you is yes, | I can take on England, but I couldn't take on | one heroin addict. Oh, look, Sid. At a time where we should have | been the tightest, it couldn't be looser. # There's no point in asking, | you'll get no reply # # Oh, just remember | I don't decide # # I got no reason, | it's all too much # # You'll always find us # # Out to lunch # # We're so pretty, | oh, so pretty # # We're vacant # It's a pity in a way. | All these rich kids... Becoming punks. | I find that revolting. It's like an army now, a faction -- chic. I'm not chic. I could never be chic. I was in it | from its inception. # There's no point in asking, | you'll get no reply # # Just remember | I don't decide # The punks ruined it... They adopted a uniform image | in attitude, and the whole thing | was about being yourself. # We're so pretty, | oh, so pretty... # # Ah... vacant # The cliche punk look | which became the postcard punk with a Mohican, and all black, | with spiky hair and all that. It was never like that | to start with. They didn't have | the money to go out and buy | a 50 quid leatherjacket it was very much a do-it-yourself | kind of thing, you know? # ...and we don't care # And all those garbage, | trashy bands -- basically all saying, | "Yeah, we're a punk band," wrecked it outright. | It became acceptable -- absorbed back into | the system. The shitstem. # We're pretty... # # Pretty vacant # I'm a punk! # And we don't care! # Mummy, mummy, come quick! They've killed Bambi! "Who killed Bambi" | was Malcolm's idea. We were musicians. | We didn't want to make a film. Malcolm was very good at | spending other people's money. But there was a load | being put into the film from the band's royalties, | which we didn't know about. I rememberjust turning up | to do a scene... there was this guy there, I thought, | "Oh, he looks familiar..." Do you know the way | to Hindley Airfield, mate? And I said, | "l know you from somewhere," and it was Sting. It was his motion picture debut, | I believe. So it's flying lessons | you're after, is it? Well, you've come | to the right place, Sex Pistol. Be advised, | drummer boy... We're the sensational | new Blow Waves, and we know how to sell | more records than Malcolm McLaren. And I knew | that it was just trash, rubbishing | the whole point and purpose. We believe | in rock and roll, and we don't need you, | Sex Pistol. The record companies know that our music | means more to them than your sick anarchy | ever did. Get out of my car, | you cunts! He used to really | get the hump, McLaren, when we started asking | for money, so I stopped asking for it. We never had our own lawyer, | which is insanity. That's the closest thing to being | in one of these boy bands -- is that they all get reamed, and we were getting reamed | in that department. How can you be a Sex Pistol | with no money? You ring the office, | you get zero response, your checks weren't paid, no rent, no earnings, | a complete disaster. It was wonderful. | "God Save the Queen"! It was a monkey's tea party. What the fuck | was the manager doing? The one that claimed that | he was manipulating everything -- manipulated nothing. He was clueless at that point. Once we said, | "We're fucking leaving the group unless you fucking get us some gigs, | you stupid little cunt," he got something together | the next day. Well, he could have done that | all the time. "Spots" was a good one -- | Sex Pistols on tour. But I thought it was dreadful | that we had to, like, not be ourselves, and go | under secret monikers. I'm a Sex Pistol, | and that's it. And we just did these secret | gigs in the small clubs, and it was just packed with fans | who'd never seen us. And they were like | the best shows, man. They were fucking great. # A cheap holiday | in other people's misery # # I don't want a holiday | in the sun # # I wanna go | to the new Belsen # # I wanna see some history # # 'Cause now I got | a reasonable economy # # Now I got a reason, | now I got a reason # # Now I got a reason, | and I'm still waiting # # Now I got a reason, | now I got a reason # # To be waiting # # The berlin wall # I thought "Holidays in the Sun" | was our crowning glory. # Sensurround sound | in a two-inch wall # # I was waiting | for the communist call # # I didn't ask for sunshine | and I got World War Ill # # I'm looking over the wall | and they're looking at me # # Now I got a reason, | now I got a reason # # Now I got a reason, | and I'm still waiting # # Now I got a reason, | now I got a reason # # To be waiting # # The Berlin Wall # Huddersfield, I remember | very fondly. Two concerts, a matinee, with children | throwing pies at me, and later on that night, | striking union members. It was heaven. He wants dad back at work, which I think | is a very good idea, indeed. It was like | our Christmas party, really. I remember everyone being | really relaxed that day. Everyone was getting on | really well, and everyone | was in such a great mood. 'Cause it was a benefit | for the kids offiremen who were on strike | around that time, and who'd been on strike | for a long time. And I've written | to Santa Claus today, and I have got you | a skateboard. Lot of love in the house, and Sid was great that day. Everything about it | was just wonderful. Okay, gang, this party | is given to you absolutely free and at the expense | of the Sex Pistols, so let's have a big cheer | for the Sex Pistols. Come on, let's hear you! # She was a girl | from Birmingham # # She just had an abortion # # She was a case | of insanity # # Her name was pauline, | she lived in a tree # # She was a no one | who killed her baby # # She sent her letter | from the country # # She was an animal # # She was a bloody disgrace # # Body # # I'm not an animal # # Body # # I'm not an animal # It's not a question | of an Ml5 blacklist, there are certain groups | whom we do not regard with favor, and whom I personally will do | everything I can within the law to prevent | ever coming to London again. # Fuck this and fuck that # # Fuck it all | and fuck the fucking brat # # She don't want a baby | who looks like that # # I don't want a baby | who looks like that # # Body # # I'm not an animal # # Body # # An unborn kid # # An animal # # I'm not an animal # # I'm not an animal, | an animal # # I'm not an animal | I ain't no animal # # I'm not a body # # I'm not an animal, | an animal # # I ain't no an animal | I'm not an animal # # I'm not an animal... # # Mommy! # I think that was | our last gig in England. - Who's this? | - Sex Pistols. Sid Vicious? Yes. This is Rodney Bingenheimer | from "Rodney on the Roq" show. Oh, hi, man. | No future. Is Johnny Rotten there? - Yeah. | - Hey, how are you doing? I'm doing all right. You'll be coming to America | soon, won't you? Get work, | move to California. - Come to California | - It's the best. Oh, I don't know... Can you get egg and chips? You can do anything | you want here, man. No one is repressed in L.A. Oh, yes you are. | Mentally repressed, dear. Right -- that's true. This week on Don Kirshner's | Rock Concert... The incredible Kansas... Family Funk | from the Sylvers... The outrageousness | of the Sex Pistols. Some slick dealing | from Ricky Jay, and funnyman | Robert Aguayo. We had trouble | getting our visas 'cause we had criminal records, | all of us. They strip-searched us | at the airport, and thank god Sid was | the first one they strip-searched, 'Cause as soon as they've seen | his underwear... That was it, | we were safe. They had no wish to play with the rest of our willies | after that point. Across the globe they achieved a notoriety | in 19 languages. In the city, voted | "Young businessmen of the year" by the lnvestors' Review. On Fleet Street, | they sold more papers than the Armistice. They didn't care | about the music -- they were purely into chaos. Security was tight | for the arrival of the infamous punk rock group | known as the Sex Pistols, that naughty bunch | of counter-culture radicals. Warner records had warned that the group might attack | members of the American Press, but when Steve Jones, | Paul Cook, Johnny Rotten, | and Sid Vicious arrived, this is | what they had to say... Nothing. Well, coming to America... was definitely | a strange experience. Ow-ww! Fucking kick me | in the fucking balls? We had, like, | these bodyguards... With walkie-talkies, | and that... Continually followed by, | like, FBI and fucking CIA, | and 50 journalists. It was kinda scary. And here they are -- | at least two of them -- in a hotel room in Atlanta, waiting for the other two | to do a promised interview. But they're in | a strange mood... Flaky -- demanding they be paid | ten bucks before they'll do any | "bleep-bleep" interview. Denied that, | they stomp off. "Bleep," they say. When the four young men left, | their spit was on the carpet, their butts on the floor. The dregs of an afternoon's | beer and booze, and a couple of empty boxes | of Clearasil. They left the hotel | to go to a sex devices store, and then to their first concert | in America. We didn't come from America, | we didn't understand America, so how the fuck | could they understand us? Okay, all you cowboys. You faggots! And I said, "You fucking | motherfucking faggot cowboys." They were throwing | a rain of bottles and beer cans, and pigs' noses, | and fuck knows what. Anarchy in... I got a full can of beer | smashed right on my lip. The U-S of A. Fucking big fat lip | with blood dripping down it. The gigs were | pretty frightening, 'cause of all the publicity | that had preceded us. People were coming there | just to see this freak show. They thought we were gonna be | sick on stage, crap on stage, | beat each other up, kill each other -- | well, it was partly true. # I am an antichrist # # I am an anarchist... # Then Sid started | beating himself, cutting himself on stage, | and totally being out to lunch. # l... # # Wanna be # Birds were better looking | in America, that's for sure. I really enjoyed | that part of it, and they knew | how to suck dick. They learn at an early | age here. Sid loved the Pistols -- as a fan... but being on stage with us, | he couldn't cope. He wasn't being himself | anymore, he was trying to be | Johnny Rotten... with the drugs. And that showed, I think, | to my mind, very bad. The fucking Texas patrolmen | took me... and threw me out the door. And they have the authority | 'cause they have a badge, and they have a fucking | billy club and a gun. Malcolm, he liked the idea | of Sid being outrageous, however much it | fucked things up for the band. I think he encouraged him. | I remember Sid saying once... "He could never be | outrageous enough." And Malcolm's going, | "Yes, yes, I agree." "You can go mad, | go all the way." It says to me that I should do | what I wanna do, you know? And just fuck everybody else. Just fuck everybody else, | you know? Just fuck 'em. They moved me, | they made me shake more than I've ever | shook before, and that's what... | what makes them the best. I think I heard one time | that they... urinated on the audience | one time. Why, I don't know. | Itjust sounds goofy. - Get outta here! | - What are they saying? Get outta here! It's better than homework. Get the fuck outta here! You faggot fucker! Yeah, the guy fucking tried | to climb up on stage and fucking attack me, so I smashed his fucking brains | in with my guitar. He knew that I meant | physical harm, and I have to say | I was ugly about it. But he came out and hit us | over the head with the bass. They were great. If I could only make out | the words, they'd be greater. That was my first time | in America. Sid would sit next to me, | and we'd look out the window, and we'd stare | at that endless scenery, and imagine John Wayne | and the indians. You wouldn't sleep. | You wouldn't want to, because it was | so first time. Steve and paul flew | around America with Malcolm. Steven, | what kind of badge you got? I don't know. | Safety department. Safety department. | That's very good. Say goodbye. | Say goodbye. They didn't want to be | on the tour bus, 'cause they were "really bored | with that reggae, man." Steve and Paul | are a pair of sheep. They do what Malcolm says. Sid was just | looking for smack, and being an idiot. | Rotten got into his ego... itjust got really depressing, | really quick. But the point is, | Sid's my mate, and I don't want him | to be ajunkie. This is why we traveled | on the bus, this is why Sid was to stick | with me, and like, the others | just didn't understand. They thought, | "Oh, you can handle it, man." But, like, dope sickness | isn't like that. It's not something | that you can just blow away. It's the worst sickness | you could ever imagine. He was far too young | for that shit, and un-american | for that shit. I can drink, | and I can drink a druggie out of being a druggie. And I will do that | for my friends, every time, any time. You can't get comfortable, | and you sweat... and you're boiling hot | and you pour with sweat. And your nose dribbles and... and all of a sudden | you get the colds, and the sweat turns | to fucking ice on you, and you put ajumper on. Then you're boiling hot again, | and you take it off, and, like, you get cold again and, like, | you just can't win. And you lie down, | and that's not comfortable, you sit up, that's not comfortable. | It drives you insane. I despise Sid for it, and I'll despise anyone | for messing with it ever since. It is the only drug that really | cancels out all creativity. It is about self-pity. It is the lowest, | worst form of life. Well, he wasn't even playing | at the end. You know, he could barely | play it anyway. Half the time he wasn't even | plugged in. It was like ajoke. | It was like... "What the fuck | am I up here for? What am I doing with this fucking, | like, kind of circus?" I just didn't want | any part of it. In the end, like, | I was the only one who had any anarchy left in me. The rest of the band, | they couldn't fucking take it. And then we got to, like... | Like I said, San Francisco, and Malcolm's in town, and Sid goes off | with Malcolm, suddenly Sid comes back | smacked up. Winterland -- | the final countdown. It wasn't | a rock and roll party. It was more | like a dying horse that needed putting | out of its misery. But Malcolm saw it more | as a media circus. He didn't realize | what a great band we were. This is KSAM | in San Francisco, with the Sex Pistols, | live from Winterland. Throughout the show, people | were hurling things at them. From all over -- | from above, from the sides, from right down below -- | and there were people jumping up on stage | and being carried off. The stage is... Here they come. It's not really impossible | in San Francisco to have monitors that work. ...is it? Is it impossible | to have a sound check? No. Here's the encore | of the Sex Pistols. Malcolm would set it up | to look ridiculous. We were all cheated -- audience... | and lead singer alike. You'll get one number | and one number only, 'cause I'm a lazy bastard. You have to understand, | they stayed in a very nice hotel. This is "no fun." Me and Sid were not allowed | in that very nice hotel. We had to stay with | the road crew in a motel. The sheer lack of respect... | for Malcolm -- and him not returning a call -- that was it for me. It wasn't connived at all. We got to our hotel | and booked in. I wasn't aware that he didn't | get a room there. So he ended up staying | somewhere else. # No fun, my babe # # No fun # Malcolm was fucking | with me. I had no credit card, | and no money, no ticket. He was trying to wreck the very thing that made | the Sex Pistols great, and he managed to achieve it | that night. # ...fun to be alone # # ln love # # With nobody else # John came over, | and we tried to have a "clear the air" talk, | and we said to him, "l don't wanna carry on, | really much longer the way this is going. | It's, like, just totally pointless. Someone's gonna get killed, | you know?" John said he thought | the problem was Malcolm, and we should get rid | of Malcolm and carry on, and try and work | it out that way. # Fun to be alone # # Walkin' by myself # # Fun to be alone # # ln love # # With nobody else # I didn't really | hang out with John. He was always draining to me. | Took up a lot of energy. Malcolm I got along with, so | I kinda went on to McLaren's side. Another thing I regret. # Maybe call somebody | on the telephone # # Well come on, | my babe # # Come on # I'd have dropped Sid | in a second at that particular point | for the band, because I knew | he was fucking up. # No fun... # That's a load | of cobblers. I was just playing bass, | and going crazy, and leaping up and down. | And he thought I was trying to take over his position | as the "New Johnny Rotten." # No fun # # No fun # I don't wanna be ajunkie | for the rest of my life. I don't wanna be | ajunkie at all. I knew the second | Sid would smack himself up again that was the end. # No -- no fun # # No fun # # Alone -- no fun # # By myself, it's no fun... # I was the one who said | "l've had enough." I couldn't | handle it any more. I didn't want nothing to do | with Rotten and Vicious. Oh, bollocks, | why should I carry on? I regret saying | that I wanted out, and leaving. I regret it, | I really do. And I apologized to John | that I fucking bailed. # No fun # We might have continued | if we'd have got rid of Malcolm. # No fun... # But that's just | the way I felt. And I couldn't get away | from my feelings at the time. I knew it had to end. I didn't think it would end... with them being | total wanker cowards. Steve and Paul | fannied out on me. The last show was the worst show | I think we've ever played. It was just like, | this ain't going nowhere. This ain't going anywhere, | it's fucking over. Cookie agreed, | and we just fucked off. The night the group split up, Vicious was pulled off a plane | at Kennedy Airport, the victim of a drug overdose. Despite all the hassles, | what was it that you thought the Pistols were really | trying to do? Was itjust like really kick | the establishment up the arse? Sid? Sid, he's not interviewing me. | Please try and wake up. Ow-ww! Sid, damn you! Fuck. Everybody was for Sid -- | I mean, Sid was like... I don't know if you saw | any of the gigs, but Sid was like, | really shining out. And John was being | like, nothing. The only people... the only | two people that I can think of... that I would like | to play with... Sid...? Oh, my God... I feel nothing but grief, | sorrow and sadness for Sid. To the point, like, if I really like, | talk about it, I just fucking burst out | in tears. He was someone | I really cared for. You see? | He's one of the Johns. I care about every single one | of the Johns. The gang of Johns | should have been the band. - Wake up, Sid. | - Yeah, okay. I'm waking up. Now what's | the next question? I can't be more | honest than that. Don't drop it | on me again. Well, the room was... | very bloody. There was blood on the sheets, | and blood on the mattress there was tracks of blood | leading into the bathroom, where the body of the female | was found lying under the sink. She was stabbed | in the stomach. The whole thing lasted | no more than three minutes, and out they went. | Vicious made no attempt to duck the cameras waiting | outside the courtroom, but he refused to respond to any | of the reporters' questions, and shoved persistent | microphones out of his path. The grand jury will decide whether | or not to indict Vicious for murder. If indicted, the case moves to the | Supreme Court for further action. Vicious was ordered | to Ryker's lsland. If convicted of the stabbing | death of Miss Spungen, Vicious faces 1 5 years | to life in prison. # No fun... # Are you having fun | at the moment? Are you kidding? No, I'm not | having fun at all. Where would you | like to be? Under the ground. Are you serious? Oh, yeah. I've lost my friend. I couldn't have changed it. | I was too young. God, I wish | I was smarter. You can look back on it, | and go, "l could have done | something." He died, | for fuck's sake. Theyjust turned it | into making money. "Ha, ha, ha, ha..." How hilarious for them. Fucking cheek. I'll hate them forever | for doing that. You can't get more evil than that. | Can you, Julien? You know? No respect. Vicious... poor sod. # No fun... # # No fun! # # No fun -- no fun # # No fun... # # No fun -- my babe # # No fun # # Fun to be alone # # Walkin' by myself # # Fun to be alone # # ln love... # And I said, "You fucking | motherfucking faggot cowboys, you can throw any fucking thing | in the world at us, and you won't get us | off this stage." # Maybe goin' out | maybe stay at home # # Maybe call somebody | on the telephone # # Come on # # No fun # We gave it fucking 200 percent for, like two years, | and that was it. I think we run out | of steam. You dirty fucker. I loved being | a Sex Pistol. I'll always be | a Sex Pistol. But at least, you know, | when I die at least I can say | I've done something. # No fun... # Press the self-destruct button, | and start again. Which is what it | was all about. # No fun... # So creating something | called the Sex Pistols was my painting, | my sculpture, my little artful dodgers. Are you still waffling, | Malcolm? The Sex Pistols ended at exactly the right time | for all the wrong reasons, but the wrong reasons | were continued, and people continued | to perpetrate lies -- about a reality. Ah, ha, ha... Ever get the feeling | you've been cheated? Goodnight. We did what we had to do... and that's why | we didn't survive. Only the fakes survive. All I want is for | future generations to just go, | "Fuck it, I've had enough, here's the truth." Infamy, infamy! They've all got it | in for me. # I'm on a submarine mission | for you, baby # # I feel the way | you were goin' # # Picked you up | on my TV screen # # Feel your undercurrent | flowing # # Submission # # Goin' down, down | draggin' me down # # Submission # # I can't tell ya | what I've found # # You've got me | pretty deep, baby # # I can't figure out | your watery love # # I gotta solve | your mystery # # You're sitting it out | in heaven above # # Submission # # Goin' down, down | draggin' me down # # Submission # # I can't tell ya | what I've found # # The mystery # # Under the water # # ln the sea # # Submission # # Goin' down, down | draggin' me down # # Submission # I wanna drown... | # I can't tell ya what I've found # # ln the water # # ln the sea # # A submarine mission | for you, baby # # Feel the way | you were goin' # # Picked you up | on my TV screen # # Feel your undercurrent | flowing # # Submission # # I'm goin down, down | draggin' me down # # Submission # # I can't tell ya | what I've found # # Sub - miss - ion # # Sub - miss - ion # # Sub - miss - ion # |
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