MIND IF I SMOKE
WHILE YOU'RE EATING?
KISSING WITH THEIR TONGUE.
AND THAT'S FIRST CLASS?
CORRECT.
WHICH PART OF FIRST CLASS?
SEX OR NONSEX?
IT'LL BE LIKE I NEVER
EVEN EXISTED.
I'M LUKE SKYWALKER.
I'M HERE TO SAVE YOU.
I'M BEING RESCUED BY
A TRANSVESTITE?
MY GOD, HE'S A PERVERT, TOO.
WHAT WE DID WAS
TERRIBLY WRONG.
IS THIS SEXUAL HARASSMENT?
YEAH...
DO YOU THINK YOU'RE
LIBERATED?
(PADDLE SMACKS)
(SOBBING)
YOU'RE A FUCKING ASSHOLE!
I DESPISE YOU!
FUCK THAT SHIT. RUN.
AND THANK YOU FOR FLYING
STAR TOURS.
MOVIES HAVE BEEN MAKING US
LAUGH AND CRY, GASP AND SCREAM
FOR OVER 100 YEARS.
AND SINCE THE EARLIEST DAYS
OF CINEMA, ADULT FILMS HAVE
BEEN A PART OF THE MOTION
PICTURE LANDSCAPE, MAKING US
GASP FOR ENTIRELY DIFFEREN REASONS.
AS FAR BACK AS THE 1880's,
FILMMAKERS SAW THE GOLDMINE
POTENTIAL OF EROTIC FILM--
LOOPS, STAG FILMS,
PEEP SHOW BOOTHS.
FOR THE NEXT 90 YEARS,
SOCIETY WATCHED SEX IN
A VARIETY OF WAYS.
THEN IN THE 1970's,
EVERYTHING CHANGED.
TAKING ADVANTAGE OF A MORE
SOCIALLY PERMISSIVE ATMOSPHERE,
DIRECTORS BEGAN TELLING STORIES
SURROUNDING THE HARDCORE SEX.
FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER,
FULL-LENGTH MOVIES WITH
EXPLICIT SEX WERE BEING SHOWN
IN THEATERS FOR A MASS AUDIENCE.
IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO OVERSTATE THE
IMPORTANCE OF GERARD DAMIANO'S
FILM, "DEEP THROAT."
THIS MOVIE OPENED THE DOOR FOR
VIRTUALLY EVERY ADULT FEATURE
THAT CAME AFTER.
WHILE THE EXAGGERATED CLOSE-UPS,
CAMPY PERFORMANCES, AND
FIREWORKS GOING OFF DURING
ORGASMS MIGHT SEEM A LITTLE
COMICAL TO A MODERN AUDIENCE,
IN 1972, AUDIENCES HAD NEVER
SEEN ANYTHING LIKE IT.
WHETHER DISCUSSING ADULT OR
MAINSTREAM, "DEEP THROAT"
REMAINS ONE OF THE MOS YOU SAY THAT YOU WANT MORE
OUT OF SEX THAN JUST A LOT OF
LITTLE TINGLES?
YES, I WANNA HEAR BELLS
AND BOMBS--
YES, WE JUST WENT THROUGH
THAT, MISS LOVELACE. LET'S NO DO THAT PART AGAIN.
I DON'T THINK PEOPLE UNDER
A CERTAIN AGE UNDERSTAND JUS HOW EDGY AND HOW RADICAL IT WAS
TO PUT ACTUAL SEX IN A BIG MOVIE
THEATER.
"DEEP THROAT," IN PARTICULAR,
OPEN A LOT OF DOORS.
IT MADE IT-- SEEING SOMETHING
LIKE THAT MORE ACCESSIBLE,
AND THEN THAT HELPED IN MAKING
"DEEP THROAT" AND...
"THE DEVIL IN MISS JONES"
PLAYED THE DOUBLE BILL FOR,
WHEN "DEEP THROAT" CAME OU IN NEW YORK THEATERS, LINES
AROUND THE BLOCK-- JACKIE O.
JACKIE KENNEDY WENT TO SEE--
DEEP THROAT IS THIS GIRL
SHE'S-- SHE'S TIRED OF-- OF SEX.
SHE THINKS THAT IT SHOULD BE
MORE THAN JUST LITTLE TINGLES.
IT MAKES ME FEEL SORT OF
TINGLY ALL OVER, AND THEN--
AND THEN WHAT?
NOTHING. I MEAN THERE SHOULD
BE MORE TO SEX THAN A LOT OF
LITTLE TINGLES.
THERE SHOULD BE BELLS RINGING,
SEAMS BURSTING, BOMBS GOING
OFF-- SOMETHING.
DO YOU WANNA GET OFF, OR DO
YOU WANNA WRECK A CITY?
SHE CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHY SHE
CAN'T HAVE AN ORGASM, BECAUSE
SHE HAS ALL THIS SEX, AND
NOTHING-- I MEAN IT'S NICE, BU NOTHING HAPPENS.
SO, UM, SHE GOES TO SEE A SEX
THERAPIST, MR. HARRY REIMS,
WHO, UM, EXAMINES HER AND
DISCOVERS THAT HER CLITORIS
IS ACTUALLY ALL THE WAY IN
THE BACK OF HER THROAT.
WELL, THERE IT IS.
YOU LITTLE BUGGER!
THERE IT IS!
WHAT?
WELL, YOUR CLITORIS, IT'S
DEEP DOWN IN THE BOTTOM OF YOUR
THROAT.
(SOBBING)
NOW, NOW, MISS LOVELACE,
LISTEN, HAVING A CLITORIS DEEP
DOWN IN THE BOTTOM OF YOUR
THROAT IS BETTER THAN HAVING
NO CLITORIS AT ALL.
THERE'S A THEME SONG--
I FORGOT.
UM, THERE'S A THEME SONG
WHEN SHE DISCOVERS THIS--
THIS, UH, SKILL.
DEEP THROAT
DEEPER THAN DEEP YOUR THROAT
DEEP THROAT
ROW ROW YOUR BOAT
SHE FINALLY HAS AN ORGASM.
THERE'S A MONTAGE OF FIREWORKS
AND BELLS RINGING AND A ROCKE SHIP GOING UP WHILE IT'S
FLASHING BETWEEN HER FACE COMING
AND... SO FUNNY.
SO HE HIRES HER AS A NURSE,
AND SHE GOES OUT ON CALL
AND FUCKS ALL THESE GUYS.
TELL ME, MR. MOORE,
HOW DO YOU FEEL NOW?
AND, EVENTUALLY, SHE FINDS
THE PERFECT PENIS
FOR HER THROAT.
AND THEY HAVE ANOTHER MONTAGE.
IN MOST '70s PORNO, EVERYONE
HAS A LOT OF HAIR, BUT IN
"DEEP THROAT," LINDA IS
COMPLETELY CLEAN-SHAVEN.
I WONDERED IF MAYBE SHE STARTED
THAT TREND PERHAPS?
OR MADE IT POPULAR AT LEAST?
I DON'T KNOW, BECAUSE SO MANY
PEOPLE SAW IT,
NIXON, ALONG WITH KEATING,
AND THAT ADMINISTRATION WAS OU TO STOP THE NEGATIVE PRESS OF
WATERGATE AND, UH, VIETNAM.
I THINK REVISITING THIS STORY
AND REVISITING, YOU KNOW, THE
TACTICS THAT CAME INTO PLAY
THAT, UH, THEY HAD A PROBLEM
MORALLY WITH SUBJECT MATTER,
AS IN "DEEP THROAT," THE FILM,
UM, IS IMPORTANT.
AND THE EASIEST TARGET WAS
THE ADULT FILM INDUSTRY.
NIXON RIGGED THE COURTROOM AND
RIGGED THE JUDGE AND GOT HIS,
UH, CONVICTIONS AGAINST THE CAS MEMBERS OF "DEEP THROAT."
I DEFINITELY THINK SHE'S--
SHE'S BETTER AT, UM,
DEEP-THROATING THICKER COCKS
THAN I AM, BUT I DEFINITELY
DROOL A LOT MORE THAN SHE DOES.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, YOU ARE
ABOUT TO WITNESS THE RAVISHMEN OF A WOMAN WHO HAS BEEN
ABDUCTED.
I ANSWERED AN AD IN THE
"SAN FRANCISCO CHRONICLE"
THAT SAID "NOW CASTING FOR A
MAJOR MOTION PICTURE."
SO I WALKED UP THE STAIRS, AND I
SAT IN THEIR OFFICE, AND HERE'S
THESE TWO BROTHERS WHO ARE
ABSOLUTELY CHARMING, FABULOUS
NOT THE LEAST BIT OF A QUESTION
IN MY MIND THAT THEY WERE
TOTALLY HONEST GUYS.
(SCREAMING)
THEY EXPLAINED TO ME THE STORY
OF "BEHIND THE GREEN DOOR,"
WHICH I THOUGHT WAS VERY COOL,
BECAUSE THAT WAS THE TIME OF
DRUGS, SEX, AND ROCK-N-ROLL.
IT WAS JUST, YOU KNOW,
ANYTHING WENT.
BEFORE I LEFT, I SAID, "IF YOU
DO WANT ME TO DO THIS, BY THE
WAY, I WANT THIS AMOUNT OF
MONEY AND THIS PERCENTAGE OF
WHATEVER FOR SO MANY YEARS."
AND THEY SAID, YOU KNOW, "DON' CALL US, WE'LL CALL YOU."
SO ABOUT AN HOUR LATER, I'M
SITTING AT MY HOUSE, AND THEY
CALLED AND SAID, "WE WANNA
DO IT."
SO THEY CAME OVER FOR ME TO
SIGN THE CONTRACT, AND THAT WAS,
UH, THAT WAS THE END OF THAT.
ALTHOUGH, AT FIRST,
HER REACTIONS MAY LEAD YOU TO
BELIEVE THAT SHE IS BEING
TORTURED, QUITE THE CONTRARY
IS TRUE, FOR NO HARM WILL COME
TO THOSE BEING RAVISHED.
IN THE MORNING, SHE WILL BE
SET FREE, UNAWARE OF ANYTHING
EXCEPT THAT SHE HAS BEEN LOVED
AS NEVER BEFORE.
THE WHOLE THING ABOUT THE
MOVIE WAS-- AND I SAID TO THEM,
"I'M AN ACTRESS, AND I SAY
NOT ONE WORD."
HE SAID, "OH, NO, THAT'S EVEN
MORE DIFFICULT," WHICH IT IS.
BECAUSE YOU REALLY HAVE TO
CONVEY YOUR FEELINGS, WHATEVER
THEY MAY BE, THROUGH YOUR EYES
AND YOUR ACTIONS.
AND I SAID, "I DON'T REALLY
WANNA KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.
I KNOW IT'S GONNA BE WILD AND
SEXY, AND IT'S GONNA BE SCARY,
PROBABLY, FOR ME AT CERTAIN
TIMES, BUT I DON' WANT TO KNOW."
JOHNNIE KEYES, HE WAS THE BLACK
GUY WITH THE SHARK TEETH
AROUND HIS NECK AND, UM,
VERY ETHNIC LOOKING.
AND WHEN WE STARTED TO HAVE SEX,
IT WAS THE KIND OF THING WHERE
I WAS, LIKE, TOTALLY FREAKED
OUT, I DIDN'T THINK I WAS GONNA
I FUCKED HER FOR A LONG TIME.
I FUCKED HER FOR 43 MINUTES
WITHOUT STOPPING. NOBODY DOES
THAT. THAT WAS A MARATHON FUCK.
WHERE IT TURNED FROM TERROR
TO PLEASURE, AND I REALLY
BELIEVE YOU CAN SEE THAT.
AND I KNOW THAT THERE WAS A TIME
THAT I FELT MYSELF SLIP ON TO
THE OTHER SIDE,
IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.
UH, MARILYN, SHE PASSED OUT,
SHE FAINTED. AND I-- IN MY MIND,
I SAID, "SHIT, I'M GOING TO
JAIL. I DONE KILLED THIS WHITE
WOMAN WITH MY DICK."
WELL, THE TRAPEZES
WERE A BIT MUCH.
IT'S A GOOD THING I WAS IN
PRETTY GOOD SHAPE, BECAUSE THERE
WAS A LOT OF STANDING AROUND,
LITERALLY, ON TOP OF PEOPLE,
AND THERE WAS TRAPEZES
AND WHATNOT. YOU HAD TO BE
A GYMNAST, DEFINITELY.
THE WAY THAT THE STORY OF--
WHEN "BEHIND THE GREEN DOOR"
AND "IVORY SOAP BOX" CAME OUT,
I TOLD THE MITCHELL BROTHERS
THAT, "OH, BY THE WAY, I DID
THIS COMMERCIAL FOR PROCTER &
GAMBLE, UH, IVORY SOAP BOX."
AND THEY'RE SAYING, "WHAT?"
WE WALKED DOWN THE SOAP AISLES,
WE LOOK, AND THERE IS MY MUG
ON ALL THESE BOXES, STARING DOWN
AT US, AND IT JUST HAPPENED TO
BE THE VERY SAME WEEK THA "BEHIND THE GREEN DOOR" OPENED
IN THE THEATERS.
I'M NOT GONNA SAY THAT I CREATED
PORNO CHIC, BUT I KNOW THAT I
WAS PART OF IT.
AND THAT WAS A VERY IMPORTAN TIME IN OUR HISTORY WHERE PEOPLE
LIKE JOHNNY CARSON WERE WAITING
IN LINE TO SEE "DEEP THROAT."
IT WAS COUPLES, AND IT WAS
ALL DIFFERENT PEOPLE FROM
DIFFERENT WALKS OF LIFE GOING
TO SEE ADULT FILMS AND GETTING
YOU'RE TELLING ME THA I'M DEAD, AND YOU'RE TRYING TO
DECIDE WHETHER TO SEND ME UP TO
HEAVEN OR DOWN TO HELL.
I REALLY HONESTLY THOUGH NOBODY I KNEW-- MUCH LESS
ANYBODY I WAS RELATED TO--
WOULD EVER KNOW ABOUT IT.
I CERTAINLY DID NOT EXPEC IT TO BECOME A HOUSEHOLD WORD.
"THE DEVIL IN MISS JONES"
WAS DEFINITELY AN ART MOVIE,
AND I'M STILL NOT REALLY 100%
SURE EXACTLY WHAT THE STORY WAS.
BUT I STILL THINK IT WORKED.
CAN YOU HELP ME?
I-- I SEEMED TO HAVE LOS MY WAY.
I'LL HELP YOU ALL I CAN,
BUT YOU'RE NOT LOST.
THEN WHERE AM I?
YOU'RE HERE.
JERRY DAMIANO WAS
THE SWEETEST GUY I EVER MET.
HE LOOKED BACK OVER AT ME,
AND HE SAYS, "CAN YOU COOK?"
I SAID, "YEAH."
HE SAID, "OKAY, YOU WANNA
COOK ON THE FILM?"
I SAID, "SURE."
HE SAID, "I GOT SOMEBODY COMING
IN TO READ THE PART OF THE DEVIL
IN THIS FILM I'M DOING.
WOULD YOU MIND READING
WITH HIM?"
AND I SAID, "SURE,
I'D BE GLAD TO."
I'VE DONE EVERYTHING THA I'VE BEEN TAUGHT.
DOESN'T THAT COUNT FOR ANYTHING?
AND HE LOOKS OVER AT ME,
HE SAID, "WOULD YOU LIKE TO PLAY
MISS JONES?"
AND I SAID, "AND COOK?"
HOW ABOUT LUST?
LUST?
YES, LUST.
IT IS ONE OF THE SEVEN DEADLY
SINS, ISN'T IT?
HE OFFERED ME $100 A DAY TO
DO MISS JONES.
AND I SAID, "THAT SOUNDS GOOD."
SO I WAS MAKING 125 A DAY,
INSTEAD OF JUST 100.
GEORGINA WAS AMAZING.
HER ACTING WAS FANTASTIC,
AND THE WAY THAT SHE FUCKED
WAS SO PASSIONATE.
LIKE, SHE-- SHE BROUGHT ENERGY
TO ALL OF THE SCENES, AND I REALLY, REALLY SHOWED.
FOR THAT DAY, IT WAS A BIG
BUDGET FILM.
I THINK THEY WERE SPENDING
SOMETHING LIKE $25,000.
IT DIDN'T PUT MY KIDS THROUGH
COLLEGE, BUT IT CERTAINLY DID
OPEN UP AN INTERESTING CAN OF
WORMS FOR MY LIFE.
THAT SUICIDE SCENE-- EVERY ACTOR
AND ACTRESS IN THE WORLD,
FROM THE BEGINNING OF TIME,
WANTS TO PLAY A DEATH SCENE.
A SUICIDE AT THE BEGINNING
OF A PORN MOVIE REALLY SETS
THE TONE.
AND I THINK IT'S ALSO VERY
BRAVE TO START A MOVIE THAT'S
SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT SEX
WITH DEATH.
AH, HERMAN, HERMAN, THA BEAUTIFUL, SWEET, AFFECTIONATE
BOA, WHO COULD TURN AND LOOK AS
FIERCE AS YOU WANTED HIM TO.
WHAT AN ACTOR.
IT WASN'T PLANNED FOR HIM
TO BE IN THE FILM.
AND I'M TALKING TO THE SNAKE
ON THE BED, AND JERRY WALKS BY
AND SKIDS TO A HALT AND SAID,
"YOU'RE A SNAKE WRANGLER."
HE SAID, "WOULD YOU DO
A SCENE WITH IT?"
MARKS SAYS, "$100 A DAY,
SAME AS I GET."
SO HERMAN WAS IN THE FILM.
THE ANAL SCENE, WHICH EVERYONE,
OF COURSE, ALWAYS ASKS ABOUT--
I DON'T KNOW-- IT'S-- IT'S A
HUGE FANTASY IN EVERYONE'S MIND,
I THINK, TO-- TO GIVE IT A TRY.
AND WHEN IT GETS ALL BIG AND FA AND HARD AND SLIPPERY, AND YOU
COULD STICK IT IN MY ASS.
GETTING FUCKED IN THE ASS
IS JUST A COUPLE OF MINUTES OF--
YOU GET USED TO IT.
ONE OF MY FAVORITE THINGS
ABOUT THE SEX SCENES WAS
GEORGINA'S DIRTY TALK.
CAN YOU FEEL HIS PRICK?
CAN HE FEEL YOU?
CAN YOU FEEL HIM?
CAN YOU FEEL YOUR COCKS
TOGETHER?
CAN YOU, RUBBING AGAINST MY...
IT SO ADDED TO THE SEX SCENE.
THE DIRTY-- THE DIRTY TALK
WAS ONE OF THE HOTTEST THINGS
OF THE MOVIE FOR ME.
WHEN JERRY CALLED ME ABOU A YEAR AFTER WE DID THE FILM
AND SAID, "I WANT YOU TO GO TO
TORONTO FOR THIS GRAND
OPENING--"
IT WAS LAVISH, IT WAS ELEGANT,
IT WAS COVERED BY A MILLION
CAMERAS ALL OVER THE ROOM, AND
SPLASHED ALL OVER THE PLACE.
AND...
I SAID, "WELL, SO MUCH FOR
ANIM-- ANONYMITY NOW.
I GUESS I-- I GUESS I'LL
HAVE TO TELL MY PARENTS WHA WHAT'S YOUR NAME?
MISTY BEETHOVEN.
IS THAT YOUR REAL NAME?
NO, IT'S NOT.
I THOUGHT IT WOULD SOUND
MORE IMPORTANT.
WHAT WAS IT BEFORE?
I WAS CAST IN "MISTY BEETHOVEN"
AND I FLEW TO NEW YORK,
AND I MET HIM, AND HE TALKED TO
ME AND EVERYTHING AND TOLD ME
TO GO BACK HOME AND TO GE EVERY BIT OF CLOTHING,
EVERY PHOTOGRAPH THAT HAD EVER
BEEN TAKEN OF ME IN MY ENTIRE
LIFE, AND BRING IT ALL BACK
TO NEW YORK.
AS HYMAN MANDEL ONCE SAID,
"NEVER LET THE FACT THAT THEY
ARE DOING IT WRONG STOP YOU
FROM DOING IT RIGHT."
WHO WAS HYMAN MANDEL?
I DON'T KNOW.
I READ THAT ON THE MEN'S ROOM
WALL AT THE NEW YORK
IT'S A TAKE ON GEORGE BERNARD
SHAW'S "PYGMALION" OR MODERN-DAY
"MY FAIR LADY" OR EVEN "SHE'S
ALL THAT," IF YOU'RE IN THE
BUT IT'S TAKING THIS WOMAN,
WHO IS, LIKE, A DIME-STORE
HOOKER, BASICALLY, GIVING
HAND JOBS IN MOVIE THEATERS.
EXCUSE ME,
MY GUM WAS IN FRONT OF YOU.
HOW'D YOU KNOW
THAT WAS YOURS?
FIVE SEATS IN.
FIVE'S MY LUCKY NUMBER.
YOU AMERICAN?
MOST OF THE TIME.
FIVE BUCKS FOR A HAND JOB.
I'LL MEET YOU OUTSIDE IN
TEN MINUTES.
TEN MINUTES?
MM-HMM. TEN MINUTES.
I HAVE TO MEET NAPOLEON.
NAPOLEON?
NAPOLEON.
HI. YOU'RE RIGHT ON TIME.
JAMIE GILLIS WAS A
SEXOLOGIST, AND HE WAS GOING
TO TRAIN ME TO BECOME THE
HE TAKES HER ON AS A PROJEC WHERE HE FEELS HE CAN TURN THIS
LOWLY STREET GIRL INTO A
MY DEAR, YOU ARE THE ABSOLUTE
NADIR OF PASSION, THE MOS UNEXCITING THING GOD HAS EVER
CREATED, A SEXUAL CIVIL
SERVICE WORKER.
NOBODY NEEDS TO READ MY LAS BOOK MORE OR DESERVES TO BE IN
MY NEXT BOOK LESS THAN YOU.
IT'S FASCINATING, BECAUSE
YOU'RE WATCHING THIS VERY
INSECURE CONSTANCE MONEY
GO FROM THIS VERY UNATTRACTIVE
WIG AND MAKEUP TO THE END, WHERE
SHE'S BASICALLY TAKING ONE OF
THE MOST PRESTIGIOUS MEN IN TOWN
AND PUTTING A STRAP ON
AND FUCKING HIM WITH IT.
I WENT UP TO SEE A FELLOW
BY THE NAME OF RADLEY METZGER,
WHO, UH, HIS NOM DE PORN
BECAME HENRY PARIS.
AND, UM, UH, INSTEAD OF BEING,
UH, ON THE FILM, HE'S A BIT OF A
SVENGALI, AND I WOUND UP BEING
IN THE FILM.
YOU DON'T THINK I'M GONNA LE HIM MAKE THAT PERILOUS JOURNEY
ALONE?
IT WAS QUITE AN EXPERIENCE,
BECAUSE I WAS UNFAMILIAR WITH
WHAT BEHAVIOR AND PROTOCOL WAS
SUPPOSED TO BE LIKE, UH, ON AN
ADULT SET, SO IT WAS REALLY
BREAKING INTO SOMETHING THA BROKE ALL THE RULES.
WISH I HAD HER BESIDE ME
IT'S FUNNY-- I WASN'T EVEN
AWARE-- IT WAS-- I WAS WATCHING
THE FILM, BUT I WAS ROOTING FOR
BOTH OF THEM TO BE TOGETHER
UNTIL THE ACT-- END MOMENT WHERE
SHE'S GIVING HIM A BLOW JOB,
AND HE'S DEGRADING HER AS IF
SHE'S NOT IN THE ROOM, UH,
PRETENDING THAT SHE'S NOT THERE,
AND THEN THEY HAVE THIS MOMEN WHERE THEY-- THEY COME TOGETHER.
IT'S JUST-- IT'S BEAUTIFUL.
YOU KNOW WHY MOST PEOPLE
HAVE SEXUAL PROBLEMS?
THEY TALK TOO GODDAMN MUCH!
JAMIE IS A VERY SWEET PERSON
ON ONE HAND, AND ON THE OTHER
HAND, IS A VERY DISTURBED
INDIVIDUAL.
JAMIE HAD HIS DEMONS.
YOU INSTANTLY JUST ARE SO
ENGAGED BY HIM.
IN FACT, WHEN I STARTED WATCHING
THE-- THE OPENING IN "MISTY
BEETHOVEN," I WASN'T EVEN AWARE
THAT JAMIE GILLIS WAS A PORN
PERFORMER.
I THOUGHT HE WAS GOING TO NO HAVE ANY SEX IN THE MOVIE,
BECAUSE HE WAS SO GOOD.
YOU THINK TO YOURSELF, "HOW
COULD THIS GUY BE A PORN ACTOR?"
WORKING FOR RADLEY METZGER
WAS, UM-- I DON'T REALLY KNOW.
I-- I DON'T KNOW HOW TO REALLY
SAY IT-- IT COMES BACK TO THA THING, "IF YOU CAN'T SAY
ANYTHING NICE..."
OKAY, LET'S GET YOU
UNDRESSED.
NO, NO, NO, YOU DON'T DO I YOURSELF.
YOU DON'T KNOW HOW,
FOR ONE THING.
HE TOLD ME HE DIDN'T THINK
I COULD ACT, AND THAT'S WHY HE
PUT ME THROUGH EVERYTHING.
THAT WAS HIS JUSTIFICATION.
I THINK MEN STINK.
WELL, THEY THINK YOU STINK.
IN FACT, IT'S ONE OF THE MOS PERFECTLY BALANCED EQUATIONS
IN NATURE.
I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT MOVIE
WAS MADE MORE WITH BLOOD AND
SWEAT THAN MONEY.
HE REALLY DID
MAKE A MASTERPIECE.
I'VE HEARD SO MANY PEOPLE QUOTE
LINES FROM IT THAT HE MUST HAVE
BEEN DOING SOMETHING RIGHT.
IT HAS AN EXTREMELY STRONG
STORY WITH BEAUTIFUL IMAGERY.
AND, ALSO, I MEAN, LOOKING A IT ALL THESE YEARS LATER, IT WAS
ALSO-- I MEAN I LOOKED
PRETTY GOOD, TOO.
I THINK IT WAS ALSO THE FAC THAT IT WAS MORE REALITY
THAN FANTASY.
THERE IS SO MUCH GOING ON
WITHIN THAT MOVIE THAT REALLY
SAYS, "THIS IS AN ARTISTIC
EXCUSE ME. UH, PARDON ME.
DO YOU MIND IF I BLOW
YOUR WAITER?
NOT AT ALL.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT ON EARTH
HAPPENED TO MINE.
BARBARA BROADCAST WAS A MOVIE
ABOUT A WOMAN WHO IS A SEX
WORKER WHO WROTE A BOOK.
IT'S TAKING PLACE AT A
RESTAURANT, AND PEOPLE ARE
GIVING BLOW JOBS AS IF
IT'S NO BIG DEAL.
NOBODY'S BATTING AN EYE,
NOBODY'S LOOKING AT I PEOPLE ARE HAVING SEX ON TABLES.
AND IT WAS WHAT I FEEL A TRUE
ADULT SHOULD-- FILM SHOULD BE,
WHERE THERE'S ABSOLUTELY ZERO
JUDGMENT ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT'S
GOING ON AROUND THEM.
YES, WE'LL HAVE YOUR
RESERVATION IN ABOUT FIVE
MINUTES.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
YOU'RE QUITE WELCOME.
THERE'S A LOT OF JOKES IN
"BARBARA BROADCAST."
ONE OF THEM IS WHEN THE
MAITRE 'D, UM, HE RECEIVES A
BLOW JOB EVERY TIME SOMEBODY
DROPS A PLATE OR MESSES UP.
AND IT'S JUST SO CAVALIER IN
THAT HE JUST UNBUTTONS
HIS PANTS, AND THEY GE DOWN ON THEIR KNEES.
WELL, BOBBY ASTER I REMEMBER
VERY WELL, BECAUSE HE'S THE VERY
FIRST PERSON THAT I EVER WORKED
ANNETTE HAVEN'S A BEAUTIFUL
WOMAN, AND IT LENDS ITSELF TO
THIS IDEA THAT YOU CAN BE
A BEAUTIFUL WOMAN
AND BE A SEXUAL WOMAN.
MY BROTHER'S KIND OF SHY,
AND, WELL, HE'S A BIG, BIG FAN
OF YOURS.
WELL, WOULD YOU MIND GIVING HIM
AN AUTOGRAPH AND A LITTLE HEAD?
ANNETTE, UM, WAS JUST, UH,
JUST ONE OF THE MOST FLAWLESSLY
BEAUTIFUL WOMAN I HAD EVER SEEN,
LET ALONE I THINK IT WAS THE--
THE FIRST RED BUSH
THAT I HAD EVER SEEN.
SERIOUS AS A HEART ATTACK AND A
GREAT BUSINESSWOMAN,
AND, UH, NUTTIER THAN A
FRUITCAKE AS WELL.
IN "BARBARA BROADCAST,"
METZGER'S USING THESE VERY WIDE
SHOTS WHERE YOU'RE SEEING SEXUAL
ACTIVITY HAPPENING WHILE THERE
IS DIALOGUE HAPPENING BETWEEN
THE MAIN CHARACTERS.
THERE ALSO WAS ANOTHER JOKE IN
"BARBARA BROADCAST" THAT I LOVED
WHERE I BELIEVE IT WAS THEY
ORDERED UP A NUMBER 17, WHICH,
BASICALLY, WAS A MAN CAME ON
A SALAD.
HE DOES A WONDERFUL
CAFE AU LAIT.
IT'S CINEMATICALLY BEAUTIFUL,
THE LOCATIONS, I MEAN, SHOOTING
AT, UH, A RESTAURANT.
I MEAN, THE KITCHEN SCENE WITH
C.J. LAING WITH ALL THE STEAM
AND THE POTS AND THE PANS AND
THE THIS AND THE THAT AND...
THEY TOOK A SCENE FROM "MISTY
BEETHOVEN," I UNDERSTAND, AS A
FILLER FOR THE GIGANTIC CLIM--
CLIMAX OF THE FILM.
SO WE HAVE THIS LITTLE PE WORKING FOR US, AND TO SET HER
STRAIGHT, WE LET CURLY AT HER,
TO ACT OUT ONE OF HIS FANTASIES.
JIMMY WASN'T VERY NICE TO ME
WHEN HE FIRST MET ME.
THE MAKEUP LADY,
SHE KEPT PUTTING MORE HAIRPIECES
IN MY HAIR, MORE AND MORE
HAIRPIECES. SHE SAID, "WELL,
I DON'T WANT HER BRAINS TO SPILL
AND JAMIE SAID, "WELL, IF IT'S
GONNA BE REALISTIC-- IF THEY'RE
GONNA COME OUT, THEY'RE GONNA
COME OUT.
STOP PUTTING THOSE HAIRPIECES
IN HER HAIR."
I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT WAS
GOING ON.
JAMIE WOULD CALL ME WHENEVER
HE WAS IN KIND OF ONE BIND OR
ANOTHER.
HE SAYS, "MITCH, YOU'VE
GOTTA COME HERE RIGHT AWAY.
YOU'VE GOTTA COME RIGHT-- RIGH AWAY," AND I HEAR THIS, LIKE,
WATER SOUND, LIKE,
THIS FLUSHING SOUND.
HE'S LIKE, "HURRY, HURRY."
SO I THREW SOMETHING ON,
AND I JUMPED IN A CAB.
I GET THERE, AND JAMIE WAS
FUCKING C.J. FROM BEHIND,
BUT HAD HER HEAD IMMERSED
IN THE TOILET BOWL, AND SHE HAD
A NECKLACE ON, AND THE CATCH GO CAUGHT, AND SO HE HAD TO KEEP
FLUSHING THE TOILET IN ORDER FOR
HER TO GET AIR.
AND I GOT THE CATCH FROM
UNDERNEATH HER NECK, AND, UH,
SHE COMES UP FOR AIR AND SAYS,
I'LL GIVE YOU $10 IF YOU LE ME LOOK AT YOUR TITS.
MR. GREENFIELD!
PLEASE, PLEASE, I JUST WANNA
LOOK AT YOUR PRETTY LITTLE TITS.
YOU KNOW WE'RE ALL
GOOD GIRLS.
THE DIRECTOR AT THE TIME--
I'D WORKED FOR HIM QUITE A FEW
TIMES-- I HELPED CAS SOME PEOPLE IN THAT FILM.
I ALSO, UM, FOUND A WAY TO GE ACCESS TO BROOKLYN COLLEGE.
AND WE KINDA KNEW WHEN THE
FACILITIES WERE OPEN.
WE-- IT WAS LIKE "DO WHAT YOU
CAN WHEN YOU CAN."
WE JUST LUCKED OUT.
WE DIDN'T GET CAUGHT DOING
ANYTHING.
I DON'T THINK I WAS EVER
ON SET WHEN BAMBI WOODS WAS
ON SET.
MAYBE I MET HER ONE TIME.
SHE WAS, FOR THAT TIME,
INCREDIBLY HOT-LOOKING.
DEBBIE, WHAT ARE YOU
GONNA DO?
RAISE THE MONEY FAST.
WHEN DO YOU HAVE TO
LEAVE, DEBBIE?
IN TWO WEEKS.
BUT THAT'S NOT ENOUGH TIME
TO RAISE THE FARE.
THE WORST THING ABOU "DEBBIE DOES DALLAS" IS
R. BOLLA'S THE ONLY GUY THA GETS TO FUCK HER.
YOU WANNA FUCK THAT GIRL.
I MEAN, IT'S A COMPLETE TEASE.
IT'S A-- IT'S A COCK-TEASING
FILM, AND IT WORKED
ON THAT LEVEL.
SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT...
OH!
(WHISTLE BLOWS)
THE DALLAS COWBOYS STARTED
THE WHOLE CHEERLEADER CRAZE,
AND IT REALLY WENT VIRAL.
IF YOU COULD USE THAT WORD
BACK THEN. AND SOMEBODY WAS
SMART ENOUGH TO CAPITALIZE ON
THAT. THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY IDEA
IT WOULD BLOW UP LIKE IT DID.
NO, MOM. YOU KNOW
I'M GONNA STAY WITH YOU.
OH, DARLING, I'M SO GLAD.
KIRDY STEVENS.
WE MET-- WE MET AT A RESTAURAN IN, UM, WEST L.A., AND HE TOLD
ME IT WAS ABOUT INCEST, AND I
SAID, "NO, ABSOLUTELY NOT."
I LOVED "TABOO" AS A MOVIE.
IN FACT, THE ENDING WAS SO
DISTURBING AND BOTHERSOME TO ME
THAT SHE DIDN'T END UP WITH HER
SON, IT MADE ME QUESTION MY OWN
HE PERSISTED, AND THEN, UM,
AGAIN, I-- I CAN ONLY DESCRIBE
THIS AS MY HIGHER SELF JUMPED IN
AND SAID, "DO IT."
BECAUSE SOMEBODY'S GOING TO
DO IT.
YOU-- IF YOU DO IT, YOU CAN
BRING CONSCIOUSNESS AND QUALITY
TO IT, SO DO IT.
WE ARE CENSORING OURSELVES
FROM DOING THINGS THAT ARE AS
FREE AND AS OPEN AS THEY WERE
35 YEARS AGO.
I MEAN THEY WERE MORE FREE
35 YEARS AGO.
I HATED THE SCRIPT THE FIRS TIME I READ IT.
IT WAS-- IT WAS REALLY
DIFFICULT TO, UM-- TO READ ABOU INCEST IN SUCH A SORT OF
FLIPPANT, UM, MANNER.
BUT IT WAS SO WRONG.
LOOK, MA, I DON'T THINK ANY
LESS OF EITHER ONE OF US.
IT HAPPENED,
AND I GOTTA TELL YA,
I WANT IT TO HAPPEN AGAIN.
DON'T-- DON'T... NO, PAUL,
DON'T. THE WORLD HAS
A DIRTY WORD FOR THIS.
THERE'S THESE-- THESE MOMENTS
THAT KIND OF MAKE YOU SAY,
"WHOA!" THESE JARRING MOMENTS,
LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN KAY
PARKER IS IN THE KITCHEN, AND
HER BREAST IS HANGING OUT OF HER
SHIRT, AND SHE'S STANDING THERE
WITH HER SON, AND IT'S ALMOST AS
IF THERE'S NO COVERING UP,
AND IT-- IT'S JUST, AGAIN,
SEX IS OUT THERE.
I MEAN I'M NOT EXACTLY
OVER-THE-HILL, YOU KNOW.
YOU'RE TELLING ME.
YOU SEE IT A LOT WITH KAY
PARKER'S FRIEND IN THE MOVIE,
WHO IS HAVING ORGIES AND-- AND
DOESN'T HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH--
SHE THINKS IT'S HOT IMAGINING
THAT HER SON WOULD BE
HAVING SEX WITH HER.
SHE REFERENCES THAT KAY PARKER
IS, YOU KNOW, HAS BEEN KIND OF
ASSAULTED BY HER BOSS.
AND SHE'S ON THE PHONE WITH HER
FRIEND, AND THE FRIEND SAYS...
WHAT'S GOING ON OVER THERE?
IS JERRY RAPING YOU?
CUT THAT OUT,
YOU SON-OF- A-BITCH!
WHAT'S HE DOING?
DOES HE HAVE HIS COCK OUT?
BUT IT-- IT-- IT LENDS ITSELF
TO THIS IDEA THAT THERE'S LOTS
OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT PEOPLE
FIND SEXUALLY AROUSING, EVEN IF
IT IS NEC-- EVEN IF IT IS
FORBIDDEN.
WHENEVER I THINK ABOUT THE--
THE SCENE, THE SEDUCTION SCENE
WITH MIKE RANGER IN "TABOO,"
I-- I GET GOOSEFLESH--
I'M GETTING RIGHT NOW, AS I--
AS I GET READY TO TALK ABOUT IT,
BECAUSE I DO REFER TO IT AS A
VERY, UM, SPIRITUAL EXPERIENCE.
SHE'S JUST LEFT THIS ORGY
PARTY THAT SHE FELT EXTREMELY
UNCOMFORTABLE AND DID NO PARTICIPATE IN, AND SHE JUS FINDS IT WITHIN HERSELF THA SHE MUST HAVE SEX,
AND HE'S SAFE FOR HER.
HE IS SAFE.
(GROANING)
I LOST MYSELF IN THAT SCENE.
I WAS NOT THERE.
I SURRENDERED, IF YOU WILL, TO
THE PART, AND THE PART, OR THE
ROLE, THE MOTHER, JUST TOOK ME,
UM, ON THIS TRIP.
IT WAS ALMOST LIKE, YES, THIS
IS THE NATURAL THING THAT SHOULD
HAPPEN BETWEEN MY MOTHER AND I.
THAT'S--
(INTERVIEWER) I'M APPALLED.
THERE'S NOTHING WRONGER
WHAT'LL IT BE, GENTS?
OH, THE MASTER WILL HAVE
A BEER, ANYTHING IMPORTED.
BOTTLE OF BUFFALO PISS,
PLEASE.
THE AMERO BROTHERS MADE A BIG
BUDGET COMEDY. WE JUST HAD A LO OF FUN. I SWEAR, THE BURNING OF
ATLANTA SCENE OR WHATEVER WAS
THE FUNNIEST THING I'VE EVER
NOW, REMEMBER, PAY NO
ATTENTION TO ME WHEN I'M TALKING
TO YOU, JUST DO WHAT I SAY.
THIS IS A VERY SIMPLE LITTLE
SCENE I'D LIKE TO GET DONE
QUICKLY, BECAUSE WE ARE SHOOTING
THE BOMBING OF ATLANTA
THIS AFTERNOON.
(ALL SCREAMING)
IT WAS FUNNY AND QUIRKY.
IT WAS-- IT WAS VERY HORNY,
IT HAD SO MANY SEX SCENES.
I WAS REALLY IMPRESSED.
I DID IT IN A BOAT ONCE,
AND I HAD TO DO ALL THE ROWING.
R. BOLLA AND I ARE IN
WYOMING, WHERE WE MEE THE CANE SISTERS.
I DECIDE TO TAKE THEM TO
NEW YORK WITH US, AND-- AND SHE
SAYS SOMETHING LIKE, "WHAT,
YOU GOT AN AIRPLANE?"
ANYWAY, I'M TO BE QUEEN
OF THE FAIRIES, AND I'VE GO THIS TERRIFIC GOWN RIGGED UP.
A GOWN?
ARE YOU ONE OF THOSE
TRANSYLVANIANS?
SUSIE MANDELL WAS THE-- MY
FAVORITE OF THE TWO CHARACTERS.
CANDY, WHAT'S A FILM LOOP?
YOU'VE GOT ME.
THEY'RE LOOKING FOR 46 GIRLS
AND A MONKEY.
IT WAS REALLY A TRIBUTE TO
THE, UH, MGM MOVIES,
ONLY WITH HARDCORE SEX.
FUCK.
THE RAPE SCENE WHERE THE
YANKEES CAME IN AND, LIKE,
BANGED ALL THE CHICKS.
I WANT A CUM SHOT, OR NONE OF
YOU FAGGOTS GET PAID!
"BLONDE AMBITION" WAS PLAYING
IN NEW YORK-- THE R-RATED
VERSION AT ONE THEATER,
AND THE X-RATED VERSION A IT'S SANDY, AM I RIGHT?
OH, BUT THERE IS AN AMAZING
RESEMBLANCE.
BUT NOW THAT I LOOK AT YOU,
WELL, IS MY SISTER HERE
OR NOT?
"NEON NIGHTS" HAD A VERY
VERONICA HART PLAYED A MADAME,
AND I WAS KIND OF HER BOY-TOY,
I'M GONNA MAKE YOU SWEAT,
BABY.
YOU'RE MY PRIVATE FUCKING
THE FILM WAS ACTUALLY
KIND OF FUCKED UP.
UM, THE DAUGHTER IS LISTENING TO
HER MOM AND HER MOM'S BOYFRIEND
AND THEN SHE STARTS
MASTURBATING WITH A HAIRBRUSH.
AND THEN SHE'S IN THE BATHROOM,
AND HE COMES IN,
AND HE'S TELLING HER TO SHUSH
AND TURN AROUND, AND HE'S
GRABBING ON HER
AND TOUCHING HER.
NO.
TURN AROUND, COME ON.
TURN AROUND, BABY.
THAT'S A GIRL.
THAT'S A GOOD GIRL.
WHEN JAKE TEAGUE MAKES
LYSA THATCHER ELEVATE, THEY DID
IT VERY WELL, LIKE, HE WAS
PUTTING HIS ARMS UNDERNEATH HER
BUTT AND OVER HER BOOBS AND
OVER HER VAGINA AND, LIKE, DOING
THE WHOLE CREEPY THING, AND THEN
I LOVE HOW HE GOT IN HER MIND.
HE WAS HAVING SEX WITH ANOTHER
WOMAN WHILE HE WAS INSIDE OF HER
MIND, AND SHE WAS FEELING
EVERYTHING THAT HIM AND THE
OTHER WOMAN WERE DOING.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS PRETTY
INTERESTING.
SO VERONICA, BACK HOME,
IS TAKING A SHOWER, AND A LA
HITCHCOCK IN "PSYCHO," UH, I
ENTER-- BUT I HAD SOME FLOWERS--
AND I PULL BACK THE CURTAIN,
AND SHE SCREAMS.
(SCREAMING)
(STRINGS SHRIEKING)
GOTCHA!
OH, MAN, WERE YOU EVER GOIN'!
NO!
PEEING IN YOUR PANTS,
YOU WERE SO SCARED.
YOU FUCK!
SHE'S ALL PISSED OFF AT THAT,
AND THEN WE GO OFF IN THE
BEDROOM AND MAKE REALLY FRANTIC
AND HARD, HARD SEX.
I THOUGHT HE DID VERY WELL A KEEPING THE PLOT TOGETHER AND
MAKING IT AN INTERESTING MOVIE
THAT IS, NOT ONLY RISKY AND
DIFFERENT AND VERY INTERESTING
WITH THE MAGICIAN AND HER
HITCH-HIKING AND BEING IN LOVE
WITH HER MOTHER'S BOYFRIEND,
I WANNA GIVE IT A TRY.
I DON'T WANNA LOOK BACK
WITH REGRETS.
YOU KNOW, IF ONLY I'D GONE
TO NEW YORK, I COULD'VE BEEN
THE PLOT OF "ROOMMATES" IS
SHE HAPPENS TO BE A HOOKER,
AND SHE DECIDES TO GET OU OF THE BUSINESS.
AND HER APARTMENT'S TOO BIG
FOR HER, SO SHE CONSIGNS
TWO ROOMMATES TO COME
WELL, THERE YOU HAVE IT--
ONE WAS, UH, A BEAUTIFUL,
GORGEOUS MODEL, WHO,
UNFORTUNATELY, SEEMED TO HAVE
A DRUG PROBLEM AND GET IN
AND I PLAYED A COLLEGE STUDEN WHO, ACTUALLY, I THINK,
RAN AWAY FROM COLLEGE.
I WAS HAVING AN AFFAIR WITH MY
COLLEGE PROFESSOR, AND I FINALLY DAWNED ON ME THA HE DIDN'T LOVE ME AT ALL.
MY CHARACTER HAD SOME BAD
PEOPLE IN HER LIFE, AND, UH,
STUFF HAPPENS BECAUSE I RUN
RAMPANT, AND I KIND OF
LEARN MY LESSON.
WHERE AM I?
YOU'RE IN QUEENS. WHERE THE
FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE?
THE FAMOUS RAPE SCENE
FROM "ROOMMATES."
SO MUCH OF IT WAS INFERRED.
THE BACKS OF THE ACTORS WERE TO
THE CAMERA.
I WAS LAYING ON THE FLOOR.
RUB SOME ON HER FACE, SAL,
RUB IT IN.
MAKE HER EAT IT.
AGAIN, YOU HEAR THE SOUNDS,
YOU HEAR THEIR VOICES, YOU CAN
ONLY IMAGINE THE WORST POSSIBLE
THING IS HAPPENING TO ME.
JAMIE GILLIS COMES BURSTING IN,
STARTS KNOCKING THE GUYS ASIDE,
AND THEN JAMIE STARTS DOING
JAMIE GILLIS.
DID THEY HURT YOU?
NO.
LET ME SEE IF THEY HURT YOU.
THEY STUCK THE BOTTLE--
DID THEY HURT YOU WITH--
DID THEY HURT YOU WITH THE
BOTTLE WHEN THEY-- WHEN THEY
SHOVED IT IN?
HE'S NOT THERE TO HELP ME,
HE'S THERE TO JERK OFF ON ME,
YOU KNOW?
SICK, TWISTED JAMIE GILLIS.
HE WASN'T INTERESTED IN
DEGRADING ANYBODY, YOU KNOW?
CHUCK'S IDEA OF A GREAT TIME
WAS TO-- TO HAVE FUN.
(LAUGHING)
COME ON, YOU GUYS ARE ANIMALS.
TAKE A BREAK ALREADY.
IT DIDN'T FIT INTO ANY CATEGORY.
SO CHUCK REALLY WENT OU ON A LIMB TO MAKE THIS.
IT WAS ONE OF THE FIRST MOVIES
WHERE EVERYBODY WASN'T RUNNING
AROUND, GOING "FUCK ME, FUCK ME,
FUCK ME."
IN THE END OF THE 1970s,
THEATRICAL PORN FILMS
BEGIN TO STRUGGLE.
OBSCENITY PROSECUTIONS ROSE,
ZONING LAWS HAD FORCED ADUL THEATERS INTO THE WORS NEIGHBORHOODS, AND THE PORN CHIC
THAT FUELED TICKET SALES
DIED OUT.
BUT THERE WAS A NEW FRONTIER
OPENING FOR ADULT MOVIE
PRODUCERS-- THE VCR WAS ABOU TO REDEFINE THE PORN INDUSTRY
WHEN DID PEOPLE STAR TO BUY VHS's?
WHEN WAS THAT STARTING TO BE
THE NORM VERSUS, UH,
GOING TO THE THEATER?
IN THE MID-'70s, THE MACHINES
CAME OUT, AND PEOPLE THOUGH THIS WAS THE GREATEST INVENTION
AND THEY HAD TO HAVE ONE--
YOU HAD TO GO OUT.
BUT, LIKE YOU SAID, THEY WERE
EXPENSIVE. THEY WERE
$1,000 A MACHINE.
AND THE MOVIES THEMSELVES
WERE $95.
THEY WOULD HAVE PARTIES, THOUGH.
THEY WOULD GO IN AND CHIP IN
THERE WAS MORE WORK THAN--
THAN GIRLS IN THE BUSINESS.
LIKE, THERE WERE, LIKE, 12 OF US
REALLY IN THE BUSINESS,
IT SEEMED, AND I THINK WE ALL
I MEAN, IT WAS JUST-- THE--
THE PRODUCERS COULDN'T GE ENOUGH GIRLS.
SO WHAT WAS IT LIKE
SHOOTING-- WHAT WAS A DAY ONSE LIKE BACK THEN?
UM, LET'S SEE, THERE WAS
USUALLY A SCRIPT, LIKE, A
20-PAGE SCRIPT, WHICH ALWAYS
IRRITATED ME, 'CAUSE I WAS NO GOOD AT MEMORIZING THINGS.
IT WAS ALWAYS SHOT AT, LIKE,
A REALLY NICE HOUSE,
THE LOCATION-- NOT ALWAYS, BU FOR THE MOST PART IT WAS, YOU
KNOW, SHOT IN REALLY NICE HOUSES
UP IN PORN VALLEY SOMEWHERE.
THEY ALWAYS HAD CATERING,
HAIR, AND MAKEUP.
I MEAN, IT WAS LIKE-- IN A WEIRD
WAY, IT WAS KINDA LIKE BEING ON
A REAL MOVIE SET, ONLY WE WERE
NAKED HAVING SEX.
YOU COULD ACTUALLY SEE THE
PLAYBACK AT-- ON THE SET.
IT WAS LIKE A WHOLE NEW WORLD.
BUT THE VIDEO QUALITY IN THOSE
DAYS WAS NOT THE BEST.
BUT EVERYBODY WANTED TO DO I BECAUSE IT WAS CHEAP,
IT WAS QUICK, IT WAS PAINLESS.
SO, AS A PERFORMER, WHAT...
DID THE CONSUMERS
SORT OF EXPECT FROM YOU?
LIKE, WERE YOU GUYS SHOOTING
A LOT OF CRAZY SEX ACTS?
NUDITY. NO.
OR DID THEY WANT YOU TO BE
A GOOD ACTRESS? DID THEY CARE?
DID THEY JUST WANNA SEE YOUR--
I THINK, IN 1984, THEY WERE
JUST HAPPY THAT THEY COULD WATCH
A FILM IN THEIR HOUSE OF A NAKED
GIRL SUCKING A GUY'S DICK.
LIKE, THERE WAS DEFINITELY NO
CRAZY SEX ACTS LIKE THERE ARE--
I MEAN, IT WAS KINDA LIKE, YOU
KNOW, THE TYPICAL THREE
POSITIONS, HEAD, HIM EATING ME
OUT, BUT IT WASN'T CRAZY SEX.
I REALLY THINK, BACK IN '84,
PEOPLE WERE JUST SO HAPPY THA THEY COULD WATCH PEOPLE HAVE SEX
GOOD EVENING, MUTANTS
AND MUTETTES, AND WELCOME TO
THE STORYLINE IS THERE'S BEEN
THING AND, IN THE WAKE OF THAT,
STILL STAND THE TOUCH OF ANOTHER
HUMAN BEING, AND THE REST OF
THEM CAN'T.
TRUST ME, FOLKS, I KNOW WHA YOU WANT, AND I KNOW WHAT I FEELS LIKE WHEN YOU DON' GET IT.
NEED IS MY FIX, LADIES AND
GENTLEMEN.
AND SO THE PEOPLE WHO CAN
TOUCH OTHER PEOPLE AND,
THEREFORE, HAVE SEX ARE FORCED
TO STAGE THESE LIVE SEX SHOWS
FOR THE PEOPLE WHO CAN'T HAVE
SEX LIKE THAT.
IT'S, LIKE, WEIRD AND
EXPERIMENTAL, BUT THEN IT'S GO THIS VERY OBVIOUS METAPHOR
ABOUT PORNOGRAPHY AND ITS PLACE
IN THE WORLD.
LEAVING SO SOON, FRIEND?
FEELING A LITTLE QUEASY?
LIVE THEATER, ON THE OTHER
HAND, AND THE HISTORY OF LIVE
THEATER, YOU CAN SEE A LOT OF
WHERE "CAFE FLESH'S" REFERENCES
PROBABLY CAME FROM.
"CAFE FLESH" STANDS THE TES OF TIME BECAUSE IT'S A PORNO
ABOUT PORNO.
IT, IT VERY MUCH IS WHAT IT IS,
AND THERE'S SOMETHING SO
WONDERFULLY HONEST ABOUT IT.
BUT THEN IT'S GOT ALL OF THE
OTHER LAYERS, SO IT REMAINS
INTERESTING.
I MEAN, YOU WATCH IT SIX OR
SEVEN TIMES, YOU'RE STILL GONNA
DOES IT EVER BOTHER YOU
FUCKING YOUR BEST FRIEND'S
WIFE?
(CHUCKLING) YOU'RE IN
"SCOUNDRELS" WAS THE FIRS FILM TO WIN A BEST PICTURE AWARD
AND HOWARD SAID TO ME, CECIL
HOWARD, "YOU'RE NOT GONNA CRACK
ONE JOKE IN THIS.
YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE-- NO MUGGING
TO THE CAMERA.
YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE A HAM."
RON JEREMY SCARED ME AT THA TIME, UM...
IT WAS, IT WAS REALLY ODD
BECAUSE, BEFORE I HAD ME RON JEREMY, I HADN'T HEARD
ANYTHING ABOUT HIM, UM, BUT HIS
HEADSHOT TO ME LOOKED LIKE
HOWARD WAS A TOUGH GUY.
CECIL HOWARD WAS TOUGH.
HE WANTED THINGS HIS WAY.
BUT I RESPECT THAT.
I REALLY ENJOYED WORKING WITH
CECIL HOWARD, AND HE WAS ONE OF
MY FAVORITE DIRECTORS,
AND I WORKED FOR HIM
EVERYTHING IN THE MOVIE IS
VERY DARK LIT AND VERY DARK
IN GENERAL.
THE DRAMA OF THE MOVIE, I THINK,
AH, I'M GONNA CHANGE.
THAT'LL BE THE DAY.
IT'S A FASCINATING
PSYCHODRAMA.
THROUGHOUT THE MOVIE,
I'M IN CLOWN WHITE
TALKING ABOUT MY LIFE.
I'VE BEEN GOOD.
I'VE BEEN REAL GOOD.
FUCK IT, NOBODY TELLS THE TRUTH
ALL THE TIME.
EVERYBODY'S FUCKING EVERYBODY
IN THIS MOVIE, BUT IT'S NOT A
HAPPY-GO-LUCKY THING, YOU KNOW.
THE DOCTOR IS CHEATING ON HIS,
UM, HIS WIFE WITH HIS SECRETARY.
AND, YOU KNOW, HIS SECRETARY'S
CHEATING ON HIM WITH HIS BES FRIEND WHO, I BELIEVE, HIS WIFE
IS ALSO SLEEPING WITH.
(SIGHING)
AND THEN THEY HAVE THIS TEENAGE
DAUGHTER WHO FEELS INVISIBLE.
MY PERFECT PARENTS.
THEY DON'T KNOW ANYTHING
ABOUT ME.
WHAT DO I LIKE?
I LIKE MAKING LOVE.
SO SHE'S TAKING IT OU BY BECOMING A WHORE
AND HAVING ALL THE SEX
IN THE WORLD THAT SHE CAN.
SHE'S THE GIRL AT THE CANDY
STORE ON THE CORNER.
THAT'S WHY I GET TO SEE HER
EVERY DAY, AND THEN FINALLY,
I JUST TELL HER TO HOP IN.
SHE GETS IN MY CAR, AND WE'RE
GONNA ESCAPE AND RUN AWAY.
MY MOM ALWAYS TOLD ME
I SHOULD MARRY A DOCTOR.
(HORN HONKING)
(SCREAMING)
WE CRASH MY CAR AND DIE.
WHICH IS CERTAINLY A STATEMEN AGAINST INFIDELITY, YOU KNOW?
EVERYBODY HAS A DARK SIDE,
AND IT'S REALLY HARD TO HIDE
NO MATTER HOW PRETTY
YOUR SURROUNDINGS ARE.
AND THIS MOVIE REALLY DIGS INTO
EVERYBODY'S SEXUALLY DEVIAN DARK SIDE.
NO ONE FILMS LIKE
THAT ANYMORE.
CECIL HOWARD, CHUCK VINCENT,
RADLEY METZGER, HENRI PACHARD,
ANTHONY SPINELLI ON THE WES COAST, THESE GUYS MADE FILMS
WHICH HAD SEX IN IT.
BY THE WAY, WHAT'S YOUR NAME?
ELIZABETH.
THAT'S A NICE NAME.
SPINELLI, HIS NAME WAS SAM,
HE WAS THE BACKBONE
HE WAS MORE THAN, UH,
A TALENTED DIRECTOR.
HE WAS MAKING THE BEST MOVIES.
AND HE BECAME A FRIEND
AND A MENTOR.
ANTHONY SPINELLI...
WHO IS...
HE WAS MY-- HE'S A DIRECTOR.
HE'S MY DAD.
IT WAS A GREAT TEAM.
HE WOULD USUALLY SAY,
"I HAVE AN IDEA."
AND I'D GO, AND I'D WRITE THE
ROUGH DRAFT, AND WE, UH,
SHOWED IT TO HIM, AND WE--
GREAT COLLABORATION,
THE PLOT OF "NOTHING TO HIDE"
REALLY REMINDED ME OF
"OF MICE AND MEN."
AND I THINK THAT THAT'S
REALLY DIFFEREN FOR A PORN MOVIE.
HOW TO BE A MAN.
AND "LOVE'S FOR SUCKERS,"
HE'S TEACHING ME.
AND I FALL IN LOVE,
AND I WANNA MARRY.
HAVE YOU EVER LOVED SOMEBODY?
NO.
HAVE YOU EVER WANTED
TO LOVE SOMEBODY?
NO.
I THINK THAT THERE IS PARTS
OF THIS MOVIE THAT YOU CAN
JERK-OFF TO.
SLOW AND DEEP.
AS LONG AS YOU'RE INTO
JOHN LESLIE.
ONE OF THE SCENES IN THERE
HAS SOMETHING FOR MOST PEOPLE TO
JERK OFF TO.
OH, JACK!
I'M NOT SURE YOU CAN JERK OFF
TO THE RICHARD PACHECO SCENE.
NONE OF THE WOMEN THAT HAD
COME BY FIT WHAT SAM WANTED TO
COME OUT OF THAT CHARACTER.
AH!
WHY DON'T YOU WATCH WHERE
YOU'RE GOING?!
SHE WAS PERFECT.
THE SEX SCENE BETWEEN RICHARD
AND CHELSEA WAS MY FAVORITE.
IT WAS SO REAL.
I SORT OF GOT MY--
SOME SPITTLE ON MY FINGER AND
PLAYED WITH HER NIPPLE AND...
"NO, NO, NO,
WHAT ARE YOU DOING?
LENNY WOULD NEVER DO THAT!"
SEE?
OH, IS THAT A RUBBER?
HOW'D YOU KNOW?
I SAW ONE IN
MY BROTHER'S DRAWER.
I'VE NEVER SEEN THAT IN
A PORN MOVIE BEFORE WHERE THEY
ACTUALLY STOP THE SEX TO PUT ON
A CONDOM, AND THEY TALK ABOU PUTTING ON THE CONDOM AND HOW
SHE'S NEVER DONE THAT BEFORE,
AND IT JUST-- IT WAS SO,
SO REAL. I LOVED IT.
THERE'S A GREAT AWKWARDNESS
AND PLAYFULNESS ABOUT WINNING
THIS, ABOUT PUTTING ON THE
CONDOM 'CAUSE IT'S PLAYED,
PLAYED REALISTICALLY.
SPINELLI PLAYED THE OWNER
OF A HOT DOG STAND.
YOU DON'T FOOL ME.
YOU DON'T WANNA STOP BEING
A MOTHER AND A FATHER, RIGHT?
HE AND JOHN HAVE A LONG SCENE
WHERE THEY TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW,
"YOU'RE JUST JEALOUS
IS WHAT IT IS."
YOU'RE GONNA LOSE THE KID.
WHEN AVN DID THEIR FIRST AWARDS,
THEY GAVE ME BEST ACTOR FOR
"IRRESISTIBLE", AND THEY ALSO
GAVE ME BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR
FOR "NOTHING TO HIDE."
THAT PROBABLY WAS THE
FOR SEVERAL MONTHS, I'VE BEEN
WRITING STORIES, NOT FOR
PUBLICATION BUT FOR A VERY
CURIOUS MAN,
A PRIVATE CLITEROTICA.
JANINE AND I BECAME BES FRIENDS WHEN WE WERE
18 AND 19 YEARS OLD.
AND I DON'T THINK EITHER OF US
REALLY KNEW WHAT TO BE
TOTALLY PREPARED FOR.
I THINK SHE'D DONE SOME...
SHE'D BEEN A "PENTHOUSE" PET SO
SHE'D DONE SOME "PENTHOUSE"
VIDEOS, BUT NOT EXACTLY THE
HARDCORE WE WERE ABOUT READY
TO GET INVOLVED IN.
WORKING WITH ANDREW BLAKE,
HE'S, UM... HE'S VERY
UNDERSTATED, YOU KNOW, QUIE GUY, BUT HIS WHEELS ARE ALWAYS
ANDREW BLAKE IS THE
QUINTESSENTIAL ARTIST.
I MEAN, HE'S QUIRKY.
HE'S INTERESTING.
SOMEWHAT INTROVERTED.
BIT OF A RECLUSE, UH, EXCEPT FOR
WHEN HE'S FILMING, AND I THINK
THAT'S KIND OF WHEN IT ALL
I HIRED THIS GUY TO MAKE
THESE-- HE MADE, LIKE,
AND BOY, AT THE BEGINNING,
THERE'S SOME MIGHTY HEFTY ONES.
THEY WERE QUITE BIG.
AND WHEN HE ARRIVED ON THE
SET, HE WAS BLOODY, AND HE HAD
CUT HIMSELF, AND HE NEEDED TO GO
TO THE HOSPITAL.
AND HE DROPPED OFF THE DILDOS,
AND, YOU KNOW, I NEVER HEARD
FROM HIM AGAIN.
(CHUCKLING)
AND, OF COURSE, BY THE TIME
WE WERE DONE,
WE WERE COMPLETELY NUMB.
I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOU THE ADULT INDUSTRY.
AT THAT TIME OF MAKING "HIDDEN
OBSESSIONS," I HAD NEVER
HEARD OF VIVID.
I KNEW NOTHING ABOUT THE
BIG-BUDGET CONTRACT GIRLS
AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
I MEAN, BASICALLY, I'M ONE TO
FLY UNDER THE RADAR.
THAT WAS THE WRONG FIRST SCENE
TO EVER DO.
I'M THE LAST MAN STANDING,
UH, STILL SHOOTING FILM.
WHEN I'M 80, AND I'M STILL
SHOOTING SOME 19-YEAR-OLD GIRL,
AND I WANNA KEEL OVER, AND MY
BOLEX GOES INTO HER PUSSY.
THAT'S WHAT I ENVISION FOR
WELL, I GUESS THESE ARE FOR
IF YOU'RE LONELY AT NIGHT AND,
UH, NEED SOMEONE TO TALK TO.
YEAH.
I TOOK THE IDEA OF "JUSTINE"
FROM A FRENCH FILM BY, UM,
A DIRECTOR NAMED LOUIS MALLE.
IT'S ABOUT A FATHER WHO
FALLS FOR HIS SON'S GIRLFRIEND.
I SAID, I'VE SEEN IT.
AND HE SAID, "WHAT'D YOU THINK?"
AND I SAID, "I HATED IT."
HE SAID, "YOU HATED IT, WHY?"
I SAID, "BECAUSE OF THE MORALITY
THAT THIS MAN WOULD DESTROY HIS
SON AND HIS WIFE FOR THE SAKE OF
IT WAS AN EVENT OF MY...
SORT OF... HAVING A SON WHO'S IN
SOME WAYS MORE GROWN-UP THAN ME.
HE'S TELLING ME, YOU KNOW,
WHY DON'T YOU TELL ME WHA YOU'RE THINKING.
I'M THINKING ABOUT MY FATHER.
YOUR FATHER?
IN "DAMAGE", UH, JEREMY IRONS
IS THE FATHER.
HE KNEW THAT THIS WAS HIS SON'S
GIRLFRIEND.
HE DIDN'T CARE.
BUT IN OUR MOVIE,
THE FATHER WOULD NOT DESTROY
HIS SON.
HE WOULD GIVE UP THE GIRL
BECAUSE HIS SON IS HIS SON.
MMM.
WOULD YOU LIKE A TASTE?
I LIKE OUR VERSION BETTER.
ROXANNE BLAZE HAD A SERIES OF
ENDLESS ORGASMS FROM A WATER
HOSE I WAS SPRAYING HER WITH.
AND THAT WAS VERY REAL,
IT WAS VERY INTERESTING.
SHE'S ONE OF HIS GIRLS,
HE WOULD LOOK AND-- AND SAY,
"WHAT'S A NICE GIRL LIKE YOU
DOING IN A PLACE LIKE THIS?"
WHY'D YOU COME BACK, HMM?
BECAUSE I SHOULDN'T HAVE.
BECAUSE YOU'RE DANGEROUS FOR ME.
WE REALLY FEL WHAT WE WERE DOING--
YOU KNOW, WE KNEW IT WAS
ONLY PORN.
BUT WE WANTED TO MAKE IT THE
BEST PORN WE COULD POSSIBLY
MAKE IT.
"JUSTINE" DOES QUALIFY AS ONE
OF THE BETTER MOVIES MADE, UH,
UH, BOTH IN THE HISTORY OF PORN,
BUT IN MY PERSONAL HISTORY
WORKING.
IT WOULD BE IN MY TOP TEN
MY CRIME WAS TO SHARE THESE
VISIONS WITH YOU.
THE TRUTH.
AND FOR THIS, I HAVE BEEN
"LATEX" WAS VERY INEXPENSIVE
BUT THEN THERE WAS ABOU 12 MONTHS OF POST MAKING ALL OF
THIS STUFF, SO THAT MIGHT'VE
THIS IS A WHOLE MOVIE FULL OF
COMPUTER-GENERATED EFFECTS.
THIS WAS SO FAR BEFORE ANYBODY
EVER THOUGHT TO DO ANYTHING LIKE
THAT FOR PORNO, YOU KNOW?
EVERYBODY WHO WORKED ON
A MICHAEL NINN FEATURE KNEW THEY
WERE IN FOR A RIDE.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE
NOT GONNA WALK IN AND BE OUT OF
THERE IN AN HOUR.
UH, MORE OFTEN THAN NOT, I MIGHT TAKE YOU A COUPLE OF HOURS
JUST TO GET YOUR MAKEUP ON.
HE SAYS THAT YOU CLAIMED TO BE
ABLE TO "SEE INSIDE OF PEOPLE."
DID YOU SAY THAT?
YES.
I'D CALL THAT E.S.P.,
WOULDN'T YOU?
I WOULD CALL IT SEEING
JON DOUGH REALLY TOOK HOLD OF
THAT ROLE AND CREATED THAT ROLE
ALMOST ON HIS OWN.
UM, MICHAEL NINN MADE IT INTO
VISUALLY POWERFUL MOVIE AND
TECHNICALLY FAR SUPERIOR THAN
MOST EVERYTHING ELSE THAT HAD
BEEN MADE BEFORE THAT.
YOU'RE ASKING ME TO EXPLAIN
SOMETHING THAT I DON'T REALLY
UNDERSTAND MYSELF.
HE WAS SO DEEPLY DEDICATED TO
WHAT WAS GOING IN THERE, MORE
THAN I EVER SAW HIM
IN ANY MOVIE.
THERE WAS ONE SET,
THE KITCHEN SET WITH ZACK
AND SUNSET THOMAS.
THAT'S THE ONLY SET WE SHOT ON.
EVERYTHING ELSE WAS SHO AGAINST GREEN SCREEN, WHICH
MEANS EVERYTHING ELSE IN THE
MOVIE HAD TO BE MANUFACTURED
I'M IN THE KITCHEN, YOU KNOW,
LATEX GLOVES ON.
AND THERE'S THESE BIG, WHITE
AND I WAS IN THE DRESSING ROOM.
I WAS JUST ALL UPSET BECAUSE
I WAS SO USED WEARING THESE
LITTLE SKIMPY UNDERWEAR.
I SAID, "MIKE, I CANNOT WEAR
THESE GRANNY UNDERWEAR."
MICHAEL NINN SEEMS TO DEAL
MORE WITH, UM, BROAD SYMBOLISM,
LIKE, SYMBOLIC STORIES.
THEY WERE HUGE STORIES THA TALKED ABOUT BASICALLY
GOOD AND EVIL.
THERE'S ALWAYS THE INNOCENCE
THAT GETS CORRUPTED.
THERE'S THE, THE SOCIETY THA CHURNS UP THE INNOCENTS IN ITS
GEARS, IT'S-- IT'S VERY SYMBOLIC
AND BROAD IN ITS SCOPE, AND
I THINK ANDREW BLAKE WAS MORE
ABOUT INSTANCES.
HOME VIDEO BECAME SUCH
A POPULAR FORMAT FOR PORN THAT,
BY THE MID-90'S, ADULT THEATERS
WERE ESSENTIALLY A THING
OF THE PAST.
PRODUCERS TRADED NEW YORK AND
SAN FRANCISCO FOR SUNNY L.A.,
AND THE SAN FERNANDO VALLEY
BECAME THE UNDISPUTED CAPITAL
OF THE ADULT BUSINESS.
VHS AND THE INDUSTRY SEEMED LIKE
A MARRIAGE THAT WOULD LAS FOREVER.
BUT PROGRESS NEVER STANDS STILL.
AND A POWERFUL NEW FORMAT WAS
ABOUT TO BRING NEW OPTIONS AND
WHY ARE YOU GOING THROUGH
MY PURSE?
TO FIND YOUR BADGE.
YOUR FIREMAN I.D.
YOU'RE THE KIND OF GIRL WHO
TAKES OUT PERSONAL ADS.
"OH, HOT-BLOODED BLONDE
IT WAS SHORTLY AFTER
"BACKDRAFT," THAT BIG FIREMAN
AND WHEN IT CAME TO
"FLASHPOINT," WHAT WE WERE
TRYING TO DO IS WE HAD KIND OF
STARTED TO ELEVATE OUR ADUL MOVIES INTO WHAT WE THOUGH SEX OUT OF THEM, BECOME KIND OF
LIKE THAT "B" MOVIE VIBE.
I JUST WISH I HAD
IT HAD A STORYLINE.
AND IT HAD REAL ACTING.
FOR ITS TIME, IT WAS A HUGE
MOVIE, AND, UH, AS LUCK WOULD
HAVE IT, I JUST HAPPENED TO MEE A BIG PYROTECHNICS GUY WHO
WORKED IN THE MAINSTREAM.
THEY ACTUALLY WORKED ON
"BACKDRAFT."
WHEN WORKING WITH FIRE,
OF COURSE, THERE'S ALWAYS A HUGE
AMOUNT OF SAFETY PRECAUTIONS
ESPECIALLY WITH THE MAINSTREAM
GUY DOING IT ALL, YOU KNOW,
WE HAD SAFETY MEETINGS
ALL THE TIME.
AT THE TIME, I DIDN'T REALLY
THINK ABOUT HOW HARD IT IS
TO BE A FIREFIGHTER.
SO THEY HAD ME CARRYING
DUMMIES UPSTAIRS.
I THINK A COUPLE OF PEOPLE
STARTED THINKING THEY WERE GONNA
PASS OUT RUNNING UP AND DOWN
STAIRS WITH ALL THE GEAR ON.
STEVENS, WHAT DO YOU THINK
YOU'RE DOING?
SHH!
IF THE CAPTAIN CATCHES YOU,
YOUR ASS IS HISTORY.
I DIDN'T REALLY REALIZE HOW
INCREDIBLY REAL
THIS WAS GOING TO BE.
WHEN YOU'RE HAVING SEX BEHIND
FIRE, YOU DON'T REALLY REALIZE
THE FEAR THAT YOU'RE
GONNA BE FEELING.
WE REALLY ONLY HAD ONE HUGE
FIRE DAY, AND HE HAD A HUGE CREW
IN THERE TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY
KNEW WHAT THEY WERE DOING.
AND REALLY HAD A GRASP OF WHA THE ISSUES WERE WHEN IT CAME TO
SAFETY AND ANY, UH-- AND KEEPING
THE ACTORS OUT OF DANGER.
I REALLY THINK THAT WE--
WE ACCOMPLISHED SOMETHING
REALLY BEAUTIFUL AND SOMETHING
TO BE HONEST WITH YOU,
I DIDN'T EXACTLY INHERI MY FATHER'S SIN...
IT WAS NO A HIGH-BUDGET MOVIE.
OVER FIVE DAYS FOR 70 GRAND.
SO 2-1/2 DAYS, $35,000...
IT'S NOTHING FOR FILM.
TO ME, IT WAS A BIG DEAL
BECAUSE THIS WAS ANOTHER ONE--
YOU KNOW, THE FILMS WERE HERE
AND THERE, JUST FEW AND FAR
DIDN'T YOU APPLY A THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IN COUNCIL
BLUFFS OR SOMETHING?
YEAH, I GOT ACCEPTED, TOO,
BUT I'M NOT READY TO LEAVE YET.
THE ACTORS THAT CAME ON
REALLY TOOK IT SERIOUSLY AND
REALLY, YOU KNOW, I GOT GOOD
PEOPLE WITH ACTING CHOPS.
SHANNA McCULLOUGH WHO,
YOU KNOW, LATER WON AN AWARD
FOR IT FOR BEST ACTRESS.
THIS WAS A FILM NOIR
AND IT WAS A DETECTIVE STORY
AND HE WANTED ME TO STAR IN IT.
IT'S A STORY OF TWO DETECTIVES
AND THIS WOMAN
WHO'S A FEMME FATALE KILLER.
AND SHE'S, YOU KNOW, SEDUCING
MEN AND THEN KILLING THEM.
AND SHE'S BEEN STALKING
MY PARTNER.
APPARENTLY, HIS FATHER DEAL WITH THIS ALSO FEMME FATALE
IN HIS CAREER AS A POLICEMAN.
AND HE THINKS IT'S THE SAME
WOMAN AND SHE'S STILL AROUND
AFTER 50 YEARS.
AND I SAID, "NO, IT MUS BE HER DAUGHTER."
THE LOOK OF "LOOKER" IS VERY
GRITTY AND NOIR INSPIRED
AND THIS IS NO ACCIDENT.
I WANTED TO DO A MOVIE THA COULD'VE BEEN SHOT IN THE 30s.
HE WAS A REAL SLAVE DRIVER.
HE LITERALLY WOULD WORK
A 24-HOUR DAY IF THAT WAS WHA WAS NECESSARY BECAUSE HE WAS
A PERFECTIONIST AND HE WANTED
EVERYBODY ELSE TO BE.
WHEN WE SHOT THAT MOVIE, WE
KNEW WE HAD SOMETHING SPECIAL.
WE PUT A LOT OF HEART INTO I AND NIC PUT A LOT OF HEART INTO
IT, AND WE DIDN'T GE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT MUCH
ANYMORE SO IT REALLY FELT GOOD
THAT IT WAS RECOGNIZED FOR WHA WE REALLY WANTED IT TO BE.
EARLY ON IN THE SHOW,
SHANNA WON FOR BEST ACTRESS.
AND WE WERE LOOKING AT EACH
OTHER LIKE, "COULD THIS BE?"
AND THEN JUST THE FLOODGATES
JUST OPENED UP AND WE WON BES FILM DIRECTOR FOR ME, BEST FILM,
ART DIRECTION, SCRIPT, EDITING.
I MEAN, TRIFECTA, SWEEP.
SO IT WAS ONE OF THE BETTER
DOGS LICK.
MEN FUCKING EAT PUSSY.
EAT MY PUSSY.
"SEVEN DEADLY SINS" WAS
THE OBVIOUS CANDIDATE FOR
THE VIGNETTE STYLE OF SHOOTING.
I WANTED TO BE ABLE TO HAVE
EVERYTHING DISTINCTLY,
UH, REPRESENTED
BY THE SIN ITSELF.
WHERE AM I?
YOU STUPID BITCH.
THE BASIC STORY IS A CRISIS
OF THIS WOMAN WHO'S IN LOVE
WITH THE REAL JANINE.
AND SHE'S BEEN TOLD THAT SHE
ACTUALLY KIND OF LOOKS LIKE
JANINE, BUT OF COURSE, WE HAVE
A REALLY DOWDY VERSION OF HER.
SO THE CHALLENGE WAS HOW DO WE
IT WAS A STRETCH, YOU KNOW,
IT WAS, UH...
I WAS JUST KIND OF... IT'S HARD
NOT TO JUST EMBRACE HER.
SO, UH, TO TAKE MYSELF OUT OF
THAT SITUATION AND BE LIKE,
"YEAH, IT'S ME AND IT'S ME,"
YOU KNOW, THERE WERE CERTAIN
THINGS THAT WE HAD TO HIDE.
WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO SHOOT AND
BE SOMEBODY, AND YOU CAN'T SHOW
YOUR FACE OR YOU'RE TRYING TO
IT WASN'T EASY.
THAT I CAN TELL YOU.
YOUR A WHINY, DRIED-UP
OLD MAID.
SHUT UP!
THAT NOBODY WANTS.
SHUT UP.
THERE WAS A LOT OF FOOD.
THERE WAS AN ABUNDANCE OF--
(GIGGLING)
IT'S A PERFECT SCENE IF YOU'RE
A FOOD FETISH KIND OF GUY.
WE HAD TO BUILD SUPPORTS
FOR THESE-- I THINK THEY WERE
TEN-FEET TALL--
AND WE DID AN ARC AROUND THAT.
AND THEN SET THAT IN
A STAGE THAT, AT THE TIME,
I THINK WAS BLACK.
SO WE COULD, YOU KNOW--
AND THEN WE ACTUALLY GOT A
TURNTABLE FOR THEM TO HAVE SEX
ON SO THAT COULD REVOLVE, SO THE
IMAGE BEHIND IN ALL THE MIRRORS
WAS REVOLVING AT THE SAME TIME.
IT HAD A VERY, YOU KNOW, KIND OF
A SURREAL DEPARTMENT STORE
HEY, WATCH THE TEETH,
SWEETIE.
SORRY, FORCE OF HABIT.
"DARK ANGELS" CAME OUT--
SCOTT TAYLOR, THE OWNER
OF NEW SENSATIONS.
HE GOES, "I'VE ALWAYS REALLY
KIND OF LIKED HORROR MOVIES AND
STUFF AND VAMPIRE-TYPE STUFF."
AND I SAID, "WELL, WE CAN DO
YOU LOOKING FOR SOMETHING
SPECIAL TONIGHT?
IT DEPENDS, YOU A COP?
YOU SEE A BADGE, SWEETHEART?
WHEN I CONCEIVED THE WHOLE
STORY AND WAS WRITING THE SCRIP AND EVERYTHING, MIKE HORNER WAS
ALREADY CAST IN MY HEAD.
WE HAD TO SPEND MORE TIME
PREPPING AND SETTING UP FOR THE
BLEEDING SCENE THAN WE DID ON
THE ENTIRE SEX SCENE, BECAUSE I TOOK SEVERAL HOURS FOR THEM TO
THEY HAD TO CLEAN THE CAR ONE
TIME FROM ALL THIS BLOOD--
ALL OVER THE WINDOWS.
IT JUST DIDN'T WORK FOR
I WAS JUST GETTING TO THAT.
WE DIDN'T GET STARTED DOING
THAT SCENE UNTIL ABOUT MIDNIGHT.
AND WE WENT TILL LIKE
4:00 IN THE MORNING,
5:00 IN THE MORNING.
WE GOT OUT OF THERE JUST IN TIME
FOR THE SUNRISE.
WHEN I APPROACHED SYDNEE TO
DO THE MOVIE, I SAID,
"ALL RIGHT, I DON'T KNOW IF
YOU'VE DONE SOMETHING LIKE THIS
BEFORE, WE'RE GONNA DO, LIKE,
YOU KNOW, FULL-BODY CAS OF YOU, PROSTHETICS."
'CAUSE THAT'S HER IN THE MONSTER
SUIT AT THE END.
AND, YOU KNOW, AND YOU'RE GONNA
BE WEARING CONTACTS
AND ALL THIS.
AND, YOU KNOW,
WOULD YOU COMMIT TO THIS?
AND I'M LOOKING AROUND THE
WAREHOUSE AND THINKING, "MAN,
YOU KNOW, I'M WORKING IN THIS
WAREHOUSE AND, YOU KNOW, I'M A
NEVER TOOK THE TIME TO TAKE CARE
OF ALL THESE PALLETS THAT LAY
HERE ALL OVER, BROKEN."
"AH, I'LL NEVER FALL ON THAT."
IN THE DUMPSTER,
WOULDN'T YOU KNOW IT?
PALLET, RIGHT, RIGHT?
A PALLET AND BROKEN GLASS.
JEWEL DE'NYLE WAS THE
CONTRACT GIRL, AND SHE ACTUALLY
QUIT, UH, FIVE DAYS BEFORE
WE FINISHED SHOOTING.
SHE STORMED OFF THE SET.
IT'S ACTUALLY ON THE
BEHIND-THE-SCENES.
FORTUNATELY, I HAD SHOT THE END
ALREADY.
IT BROKE A LOT OF RULES
WHEN IT CAME OUT.
IT UPSET SOME PEOPLE,
IT EXCITED A LOT OF PEOPLE, I MADE A LOT OF MONEY, YOU KNOW?
IT WAS-- IT WAS ONE OF
THOSE GREAT EXPERIENCES THA I WAS NEVER ABLE TO DUPLICATE,
EVEN WITH BIGGER BUDGETS, BIGGER
CREWS, NEWER EQUIPMENT,
EVERYTHING.
I WAS NEVER ABLE TO CAPTURE
THE MAGIC THAT WENT INTO
YOU TRIED TO GET MY
ATTENTION.
YES.
WELL, YOU DID.
I WAS VERY IMPRESSED
BY YOUR DVD.
ANYTHING ELSE IMPRESS YOU
I THOUGHT I HAD A GOOD MOVIE
BECAUSE, UH, THE SCRIPT WAS THE
BEST SCRIPT THAT I THOUGHT I HAD
EVER COME UP WITH IN TERMS OF
INTERESTING IDEAS.
IT TOOK A LONG TIME TO WRITE IT.
(SHRIEKING)
TO BE DIRECTED BY JOHN,
ESPECIALLY FOR THIS MOVIE,
WAS SO SPECIAL FOR ME
I WAS A BIG FAN OF ALL
THE "BUTTMAN" SERIES.
I WAS A BIG FAN OF JOHN, SO I WAS LIKE BEING IN A DREAM.
I HAD A GOOD MEETING WITH MY
CINEMATOGRAPHER WHO SAID,
"WELL, WHAT'S THE RELATIONSHIP
BETWEEN THOSE TWO GIRLS?"
AND I SAID, "OH.
THEY COULD HAVE A RELATIONSHIP."
THAT'S MORE THAN JUST THE GIRL
IN THE BACK ROOM TRYING TO
SEDUCE ROCCO.
WAS HORRIBLE, LIKE,
ROCCO SPEAKS FRENCH VERY WELL
SO HE WOULD TRANSLATE SOME OF
THE THINGS, BUT THE FUNNIES PART WAS-- WAS THE DIALOGUE
I HAD, I WAS BASICALLY DOING
IT-- DOING IT-- PHONETICALLY.
I TOLD YOU THEY ARE STILL
IN THE DARK AGES.
I'M ALREADY NOT A GREAT ACTOR
TO START WITH,
BUT HERE, IT WAS LIKE--
LIKE ROBOTIC ACTING.
I'LL DO THIS THING ABOU THIS LITTLE FASHION COMPANY
'CAUSE I WANNA DO STUFF WITH
FASHION 'CAUSE I LIKE CLOTHES
AND SEXY CLOTHES ON GIRLS.
IT GIVES ME AN EXCUSE, AND I'LL
HAVE THIS LITTLE MOUSEY GIRL
SITTING IN THE CORNER AND
SHE'LL JUST-- SHE'LL REALLY BE
THE BRAINS BEHIND THE OPERATION.
AND WE'LL DO THIS LIKE NORMAL,
LIKE TV SHOW KIND OF THING.
BUT THAT MORPHED INTO A FETISH
FASHION COMPANY AND THE GIRL
SITTING IN THE CORNER WAS
BELLADONNA WHO SENDS THE GUY
SHE'S TRYING TO SEDUCE AN
EXTREME S&M DVD WHERE HE FINDS
THIS STUFF WITH EASTER EGGS
ON THE DVD.
IT MORPHED INTO SOMETHING THA WAS REALLY LIKE A PRIMER
FOR S&M SEX.
WHEREAS, IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE
THIS MIDDLE-OF-THE-ROAD THING,
BECAUSE I CAN'T THINK
MIDDLE-OF-THE-ROAD SOMEHOW.
305 ROLLS OF FILM AS I RECALL.
AND MOST OF THOSE WERE THE FOUR
MINUTES, ALTHOUGH, WE DID HAVE
ON TWO DIFFERENT DAYS, WE HAD
THE BIG CAMERA WHICH COULD SHOO 11 MINUTES AT A TIME
WHICH WAS SO GREAT, 11 MINUTES.
I DON'T THINK I'VE DONE MY BES MOVIE YET, THAT'S FOR SURE.
I HOPE TO BE DOING MY NEXT MOVIE
IS GONNA BE MY BEST MOVIE,
WHAT CAN I DO FOR YOU TODAY?
I'D LIKE A MASSAGE.
WELL, YOU'VE CERTAINLY COME
TO THE RIGHT PLACE.
I MADE THE ORIGINAL
"MASSEUSE" IN ABOUT 1990
OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND IT WAS REALLY A DEPARTURE
HELLO, THIS IS JIM.
I THINK IT IS THE BES I FELT SO INCREDIBLY
COMFORTABLE WITH THE SCRIPT,
THE DIRECTNESS, THE
SIMPLICITY, THE TRUTHFULNESS
OF IT.
THERE'S NO BELLS AND WHISTLES.
IT'S JUST A MASSEUSE
AND HER CLIENT TALKING.
YOU KNOW, WHAT DID I CALL IT--
"MY DINNER WITH ANDRE"
OF X-RATED MOVIES.
IF YOU WATCH THE MOVIE
CLOSELY, YOU CAN ALMOST SEE ME,
THE REAL ME,
DISCOVERING MYSELF.
SO THAT'S WHY I LIKE IT SO MUCH.
HOW OLD ARE YOU?
28.
GIRLFRIEND?
CAN I TELL YOU A SECRET?
SURE, I LOVE SECRETS.
I'M A VIRGIN.
I LIKE TO STAB
AND SEE HOW FAR I CAN GO.
PAUL THOMAS HAS A WAY ABOUT HIM,
AND I THINK I GAINED
A LITTLE BIT OF HIS RESPECT.
HE'S USED TO BEING ABLE TO TELL
PEOPLE POP, POP, POP, POP, POP.
AND I WOULD BE LIKE, "LISTEN,
NO, THIS IS THE WAY THIS SHOULD
BE, AND THIS IS THE WAY
THIS SHOULD BE.
WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT?"
SHE BROUGHT A LOT TO
THE TABLE, SHE LISTENED TO ME,
ALWAYS ON TIME-- I'M THE ONE
WHO HAD TO STEP UP MY GAME.
YOU KNOW, WITH JENNA,
NO PARTYING, YOU KNOW?
I'LL SEE YOU LATER,
I PLAYED JUSTINE JONES,
JONES," AND JENNA JAMESON
PLAYED THE DEVIL, WHICH WAS
QUITE INTERESTING BECAUSE I GO THE SCRIPT AND THEN HEARD THA AND MY-- MY FIRST THOUGHT WAS
NOT ONLY DO YOU HAVE TO REMAKE
THIS AMAZING CLASSIC FILM,
"THE DEVIL AND MISS JONES," BU ALSO NOW NEXT TO JENNA JAMESON
AT FIRST IT FEELS LIKE
A NO-WIN SITUATION, YOU KNOW?
WHAT AM I GONNA MAKE
ONCE IN A WHILE, YOU GE "GODFATHER TWO," BUT MOST OF THE
TIME, THE SEQUEL'S JUST AREN' SO GOOD IF THE ORIGINAL'S
I HAD BEEN OUT OF
THE BUSINESS FOR A LONG TIME.
AND PAUL THOMAS CALLED ME ONE
NIGHT AND SAID, "WE'RE GONNA DO
A REMAKE OF 'THE DEVIL
AND I SAID, "WELL, VERY GOOD,
PAUL, CONGRATULATIONS,
GOOD LUCK," AND SO FORTH.
AND HE SAYS, "YOU'RE GONNA
BE IN IT," AND I SAID,
"OH, NO, I'M NOT."
AND HE SAID, "OH, YES, YOU ARE."
HE SAYS, "YOU'RE JUST GONNA DO
A CAMEO, THREE LINES."
I SAID, "I DON'T EVEN WANNA
LEARN THREE LINES."
HE SAYS, "I'LL GIVE YOU
$10,000," I SAID, "OKAY."
WHEN SHE COMES OUT AT THE END
OF THAT MOVIE, YOU GET CHILLS.
ESPECIALLY IF YOU KNOW
WHO SHE IS.
IT REALLY WORKS, AND, UH...
SHE'S JUST DELIGHTFUL.
DO YOU READ, MISS JONES?
ONLY ROMANCE NOVELS,
IT'S MY JOB.
YOU ARE SO PRIVILEGED.
AND YOU FEEL SO SORRY
FOR YOURSELF.
IS ONE OF THE MOS GROUNDBREAKING WOMEN EVER.
OWNING HER SEXUALITY AND NO BACKING DOWN AT THE TIME WHEN
SHE WAS FAME-- UBER FAMOUS.
I HAVE ULTIMATE RESPECT FOR HER,
AND I MADE SURE I TOLD HER THAT.
AND HER ACTING WAS FANTASTIC,
TOO.
IT WAS REALLY COOL TO DO THA BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, AT THE TIME,
WE WERE THREE OF THE BIGGES NAMES IN THE BUSINESS,
AND IT WAS LIKE, "WOW, THIS
WHILE I'M GETTING DP'D,
I SAY THIS MONOLOGUE FROM--
THAT GEORGINA SPELVIN SAID IN
THE ORIGINAL "MISS JONES."
IF YOU TOUCH ME, I'LL COME,
I KNOW I WILL.
TOUCH ME, TOUCH ME, TOUCH ME.
I'LL MAKE YOU COME, TOO.
SO WHEN I DID HOWARD STERN,
HE SAID, "WELL, DID YOU FUCK
A SNAKE," BECAUSE THAT'S WHA PEOPLE THINK OF THE ORIGINAL
MISS JONES.
THEY DON'T REMEMBER MUCH, BU THEY REMEMBER THE SNAKE SCENE.
AND WHAT THEY ACTUALLY REMEMBER
ABOUT IT, BUT THEY THINK MOSTLY
THAT THERE WAS A SEX SCENE
WITH A SNAKE.
SO I WENT TO VIVID AND I SAID,
"LOOK, WE HAVE TO DO
A SNAKE SCENE."
IT WAS A GOOD TIME
IN EVERYONE'S LIVES.
THEY WERE TIGHT.
VIVID WAS TIGHT.
WE WERE ALL TIGHT AND WORKING--
REALLY WORKING BOTH FOR
"THE DEVIL IN MISS JONES" AND
FOR "MASSEUSE", WORKING AT THE
TOP OF OUR PROFESSIONAL LEVELS
AND OUR PERSONAL LIVES.
WE'RE ALL PRETTY DAMN TOGETHER.
SO IT WAS NOTHING BUT--
NOTHING BUT POSITIVE.
THE 2000s WERE THE DECADE
WHEN PORN GREW UP.
FLUSH WITH MONEY FROM THE DVD
BOOM, PRODUCERS BEGAN SHOOTING
BIGGER MOVIES WITH MAJOR
BUDGETS, GIGANTIC CASTS,
AND ELABORATE SCRIPTS.
THESE ADULT BLOCKBUSTERS NEEDED
A BETTER FORMAT THAN SIMPLE
VIDEO, AND FILM WAS BECOMING
TOO COSTLY TO JUSTIFY.
COMING WITH ITS OWN SET OF
TECHNICAL ISSUES AND CONCERNS,
THE FAST-GROWING HD FORMA THE FEATURES OF THAT TIME,
WERE PEOPLE SPENDING A LO OF MONEY ON THEM...
YEAH.
WHEN IT WAS NEW, WERE THEY--
YEAH, I MEAN, LIKE,
FIRST FEATURE LEADS WAS FOR
"WICKED."
IT WAS THIS REALLY BIG,
LIKE, MICHAEL RAVEN MOVIE.
I REMEMBER IT HAD, LIKE, THESE
OOZING, LIKE, TENTACLE DILDOS
AND FOG MACHINE, AND, LIKE,
THESE BIG SETS AND IT WAS THE
FIRST TIME, YOU KNOW, WE SHO OUT IN THE DESERT AND IT WAS,
LIKE, A WIND STORM AND IT WAS
JUST-- IT WAS AWESOME. IT WAS,
LIKE, REALLY FUN TO GO FROM,
LIKE, JUST GETTING, LIKE,
YOU KNOW...
NAILED.
FUCK-NAILED ON A GONZO SET,
JUST POUNDED, LIKE, "YEAH,
MOTHERFUCKER, COME ON, I CAN
TAKE IT," YOU KNOW,
TO, LIKE, CATERING.
(LAUGHING)
YOU KNOW, LIKE, "WOULD YOU LIKE
A SNACK?"
"YES, I WOULD."
THERE'S BREAKFAST ON SET?
SO HOW HAS INTERNET AFFECTED
THE INDUSTRY TODAY?
I THINK IT MAKES THE FANS
ACCESS YOUR FAVORITE STARS AND
HAVE CONVERSATIONS AND GIVE THEM
GIFTS AND, YOU KNOW, JUST TO
TALK TO WHOEVER YOU'RE A FAN OF.
SO THE INTERNET, LITERALLY, THEY
CAN SEE WHO'S SHOOTING WHEN,
THAT DAY, THEY KNOW WHEN IT'S
GONNA COME OUT.
IT'S JUST, LIKE, RIGHT NOW,
I'M LOOKING FOR A PIRATE.
WE KNOW MANY, MANY PIRATES.
BY FAR, THE BIGGES PRODUCTION THAT I'VE EVER BEEN
INVOLVED IN HAD TO BE
THE "PIRATES."
SHOT STUFF IN L.A., THEN TOOK
THE WHOLE TROOP, CREW, EVERYBODY
THAT WAS INVOLVED IN I ALL THE WAY TO FLORIDA.
WE SHOT ON THE U.S.S. BOUNTY.
IT TOOK THREE WEEKS TO SHOO HELMSMAN, PREPARE
TO SET SAIL.
ARE YOU REALLY GONNA
LET HER GO UNSCATHED, SIR?
OF COURSE NOT.
WORKING WITH JOONE,
HE HAS A VISION,
HE'S AN ARTIST.
HE HAS THIS GREAT VISION
OF SOMETHING BIGGER
THERE'S SOME DIRECTORS THA ACTUALLY GET INVOLVED IN THEIR
STUFF, THEY HAVE THE VISION IN
THEIR HEAD, AND JOONE IS ONE
OF THOSE DIRECTORS.
HE ALREADY HAD THE SET IN HIS
HEAD AND THEY BUILT IT AND
THEY TOOK THEIR TIME TO DO I AND HE KNEW EXACTLY
WHAT HE WANTED.
ALREADY HAD THE SHOTS
IN HIS HEAD.
IT'S A BIT SLOW TONIGHT,
IT'S AWKWARD.
LINE UP THE CREW ON THE BOW.
BRING ME THE PASSENGERS
FROM THE DECK BELOW.
AND, SERENA,
AS MUCH AS I LOVE YOUR METHODS,
DON'T EVEN CONSIDER KILLING
I DON'T THINK I WAS EVER
A CRUEL PIRATE.
I'M GONNA HAVE TO WATCH THA AGAIN... UH, WAS I A CRUEL--
SHE WAS A HORNY PIRATE.
I DON'T KNOW IF SHE WAS CRUEL.
WELL, THERE'S THE VICIOUS
LADY I REMEMBER.
DON'T EVER SECOND-GUESS ME.
HE BUILT THE TENSION.
SO WE WERE, OF COURSE,
THE LAST SCENE OF "PIRATES."
HE JUST WAITED, AND THEY WOULD
SAY LITTLE THINGS TO US TO LIKE
GET US READY AND TURNED-ON
AND READY TO GO.
THEY KEPT JESSE JANE
AND I SEPARATE, UH, SEPARATED
JUST SO THE TENSION AND
THE, YOU KNOW, THE ANTICIPATION
WOULD BUILD UP AND...
AND HE'S COME TEASE ME.
"I WONDER WHO'S GONNA WIN?
I GUESS SHE'S GONNA SHOW YOU."
SHE'S ABOUT HALF MY SIZE
AND THIS LITTLE-- THIS LITTLE
CUPCAKE THOUGHT SHE WAS GONNA...
DOMINATE ME?
I HAD TO-- I HAD TO PUT HER IN
HER PLACE, BUT I LET HER PRETEND
TO THINK THAT FOR A LITTLE BIT.
OKAY, SO CARMEN GETS PUT--
CHOKED OFF THE BOA BY TOMMY GUNN.
AND THEY WANTED TO DO THIS
STUNT WHERE, UH, STUNT GIRL GOES
OFF IN THE WATER, NO BIG DEAL.
AND SHE GOES, "NO."
WELL, JESSE WOULDN'T HAVE
NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT.
SHE WANTED TO DO THE STUN HERSELF.
AND OF COURSE, I'M A
DAREDEVIL, SO I'M LIKE,
"I'LL DO IT."
AND I KNOW WHAT'S GONNA
HAPPEN BEFORE IT EVEN HAPPENS.
SO I ALREADY GOT MY STUFF OFF,
GOT MY BOOTS OFF, AND
I'M JUST STANDING HERE AND JUS WAITING FOR HER TO JUMP IN.
AS SOON AS SHE JUMP IN
AND THEY GOT THE SHOT AND THE
SPLASH, I'M IN THE WATER
AFTER HER.
THEY'RE NOT EVEN THINKING THA THIS BIG, BALLOONING DRESS IS
JUST GONNA SUCK UP RIGHT TO HER,
AND SHE'S NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO
KICK, SHE'S NOT GONNA BE ABLE
TO DO ANYTHING.
WELL, MY DRESS, HER DRESS,
GETS CAUGHT ON A NAIL
UNDERNEATH THE BOA AND I START SINKING
AND I CAN'T COME UP.
BUT SHE WENT IN
AND SHE ALMOST DROWNED.
I THINK SOME OF THAT WAS
BEHIND-THE-SCENES, NOT ALL OF I WHERE I WAS DROWNING,
'CAUSE THAT WAS PROBABLY
NOT GOOD.
I DEFINITELY DIDN'T KNOW
IT WOULD BE AS BIG AS IT WAS
AND THE NUMBER ONE MOVIE EVER.
AND PEOPLE WHO EVER WATCHED PORN
HEARD OF THE MOVIE AND WEN TO WATCH IT.
IT WAS THE FIRST MOVIE TO BE CU INTO A RATED R VERSION AND
RENTED IN BLOCKBUSTER.
IT WAS A BLOCKBUSTER HIT.
YOU MUST THINK ME A MONSTER.
"CORRUPTION" WAS PROBABLY
THE FIRST BIG-BUDGET MOVIE
I WAS THAT INVOLVED IN.
I'D, YOU KNOW, BEEN IN OTHER
BIG-BUDGET MOVIES AS TALENT,
BUT YOU'RE NOT AS INVOLVED
YOU SHOW UP AND, YOU KNOW,
YOU PRETTY MUCH DO YOUR THING
IT WAS SOMETHING BEING DONE
AND BEING DONE WELL AND WITH,
LIKE, HEART.
THAT, LIKE, ATTRACTS ME.
YEAH, I GOT YOU
RIGHT WHERE YOU WANT ME.
I ALSO HAD A PRETTY
DECENT ACTING ROLE.
AND THAT WAS PLAYING THE PAR OF CAROLYN HELMS,
WHO WAS THE SENATOR'S WIFE.
AND SHE'S KIND OF THE CENTRAL
PART OF THE MOVIE.
HERE'S CAROLYN IN THE MIDDLE,
AND SHE'S KIND OF STARTS
MANIPULATING EVERYBODY
I'M A UNION LEADER,
A TEAMSTER.
AND I'M A-- I'M TRYING TO WORK,
TO GAIN AN ADVANTAGE.
WORD IS YOU'RE PLANNING A RUN
AT THE BIG TICKET IN TWO YEARS.
IF THAT'S TRUE, YOU'RE GONNA
NEED MONEY, US, AND GOD
ON YOUR SIDE... IN THAT ORDER.
I'M BEING BLACKMAILED IN THIS
SCENE, SO I'M-- SO I'M DOING--
I'M PERFORMING A SEXUAL AC THAT IF I GET CAUGHT,
MY OWN CAREER WOULD BE DONE.
SO I WAS-- IT WAS ANOTHER SCENE
OF HUMILIATION FOR ME, WHICH I'M
COMFORTABLE WITH IN MY OWN LIFE
WITH TWO MARRIAGES BEHIND ME.
HOW MANY TIMES DID THEY PUSH
ME OUT OF THE CAR?
HOW MANY TIMES DID THEY ALMOS HIT ME WITH THE CAR?
I THINK THEY WERE JUST HAVING
FUN THROWING JAMES OUT OF A CAR.
I HAD TO BE LIKE LIMP AND GE THROWN OF THIS CAR, UM,
ONTO A PILE OF GARBAGE.
I THINK THEY MUST'VE SHO THAT SCENE. FOR WHATEVER REASON,
LIKE 15 TIMES.
IT FELT LIKE FOREVER 'CAUSE
I'D BEEN PUSHED OUT OF THE CAR
IN TO GARBAGE.
AND THEN THERE WAS THIS ONE TIME
WHERE, UH, MY LEGS FELT A LITTLE
WEIRD AND, LIKE, EVERYONE
STARTED SCREAMING 'CAUSE THE CAR
ALMOST ROLLED OVER MY ANKLE.
IT WAS FUN, IT WAS FANTASTIC
BECAUSE WE'D ALL WORKED SO HARD
ON IT AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAD THIS
SENSE OF FAMILY AND HARD WORK,
AND THE MOVIE JUST LOOKED
INCREDIBLE.
AND THEN WE WON.
AND I REMEMBER JUMPING UP
WHEN WE WON AT THE AVN AWARDS
AND I HAD A CORSET ON AND I WAS
SO EXCITED AND I ACTUALLY PEED
WOW.
THAT WAS THE CLOSEST THING
TO GOD I'VE EVER FELT.
I DON'T KNOW, BUT IT'S...
IT'S A LOT BIGGER AND A LO IT WAS MY FIRST LEAD,
BIG FEATURE FILM LIKE THAT.
I HAD DONE THE SMALLER ONES
WHERE I WAS LIKE SUPPORTING
ACTRESS.
BUT THIS WAS LIKE-- IT REALLY
PUT ME ON THE MAP AS FAR
MY PARTNER DIES,
LIKE, IN THE LINE OF DUTY.
I'M DEVASTATED.
BUT I'M KIND OF LIKE A HARD-ASS,
TOO, AND I DON'T LET ANYBODY
KIND OF SEE MY EMOTIONS.
AND WE DISCOVER THIS HACKER
GIRL, WHICH WAS PLAYED
BY HILLARY SCOTT.
AT THAT POINT, SEXY PICTURES
HAD JUST SIGNED HILLARY
TO UNDER CONTRACT.
AND THEY TOLD US
WE HAD TO USE HER.
IN THE END,
HILLARY DID AN AMAZING JOB.
SHE ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW...
SHE WAS PREPARED AND SHE CAME
AND WHO AM I KIDDING?
SHE DID NOT WORK HARD AT ALL.
SHE DIDN'T, I'M LYING TO TRY
THROUGH THE MIRACLE OF EDITING
AND GOOD ACTING COACHING,
I THINK THAT SHE FILLED
THE ROLE FINE.
DAVID, I KNOW YOU CAN
HEAR ME.
SHOWED UP ON SET AND I WAS
LIKE, "OH, THIS IS A BIG MOVIE,
AND THEY'RE LIKE, "YEAH, YOU'RE
LIKE THE STAR OF IT."
I'M LIKE, "BUT I'M ONLY HERE
FOR A DAY."
AND THEY'RE LIKE, "WELL, ALL
RIGHT, YOU'RE NOT THE STAR OF
IT, YOU'RE JUST-- THE WHOLE
YOU SEE A LOT OF MOVIES IN
PORN WHERE THEY SAY, "WE SPEND
A MILLION DOLLARS, WE SPEND $2
MILLION," WHATEVER THE CASE IS.
AND I'M GOING TO TELL YOU THA FOR THE MOST PART, THEY LIE.
PEOPLE WILL SAY, "WE SPEND ALL
THIS MONEY," AND THEY USUALLY
DOUBLE THE AMOUNT.
NOW LET ME TELL YOU,
"UPLOAD" COST $350,000.
THAT'S AN UNHEARD OF AMOUN OF MONEY IN PORN.
WE SHOT FOR 20 DAYS.
I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER KNOWN
A PORN MOVIE THAT SHO FOR 20 DAYS.
WHEN "UPLOAD" WON
ALL THE AWARDS, PICKED UP PRETTY
MUCH ALMOST EVERYTHING UNDER
THE SUN AT AVN'S, I FELT LIKE
SUCH A STRONG FEELING
OF ACCOMPLISHMENT.
ONE OF THE THINGS THA I LEARNED FROM ELI CROSS IS HE
SAID, "THERE'S TWO THINGS YOU
NEED, YOU NEED MONEY AND TIME.
AND THOSE TWO THINGS WILL ALWAYS
HELP YOU WITH A BETTER MOVIE."
WE WERE ABLE TO TAKE THE MONEY
THAT WE HAD AND TURN I INTO TIME, AND THAT MADE
FOR A BETTER MOVIE.
WHATEVER YOU ASK...
I AM YOUR SERVANT.
"FALLEN" TO THIS DAY IS
IN "FALLEN" I AM A GUARDIAN
ANGEL AND MY CHARGE
IS JENNA HAZE.
(EXPLOSION)
NO!
I THEN LOSE MY WINGS,
AND I'M SORT OF ROAMING
THE EARTH IN LIMBO IF YOU WILL.
AND I PRETTY MUCH HAVE SEX
WITH EVERYONE IN MY PATH.
THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS.
WHEN YOU'RE IN THAT FANTASY
REALM, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE
AND A LOVE STORY AT THAT WITH
ALL THIS FANTASY STUFF WITH
ANGELS AND FLYING AROUND ON
ROOFTOPS, IS CAN YOU ACTUALLY
OH! OH!
A LOT HAS CHANGED.
I'M NO LONGER AN ANGEL.
"FALLEN", I THINK WE SHOT I OVER TWO WEEKS, BUT IT WASN' EVERY DAY OF THOSE TWO WEEKS.
WE HAD PREP DAYS AND THEN WE HAD
DOWN DAYS, SO-- SO PEOPLE COULD
REST THEIR PARTS, YOU KNOW?
WE HAD A LOT OF REALLY
AMAZING PEOPLE IN IT.
IT HAD ACTING, IT HAD A REALLY
GREAT STORYLINE.
IT HAD A LOT OF SEX.
IT HAD A LOT OF HARDER SEX, TOO.
A LOT OF "FALLEN" TAKES PLACE
ON ROOFTOPS, AND THOSE ARE
ACTUALLY IN CAMERA.
I'M-- I'M SCARED OF
GREEN SCREEN MYSELF.
I THINK "FALLEN" STANDS
ON ITS OWN MERITS.
IT'S A GREAT STORY.
IT KIND OF PROPELLED JESSICA
INTO THAT SUPERSTAR STATUS.
AND, UH, DIDN'T DO BAD FOR ME
AS A DIRECTOR, AS WELL.
THE REAL REASON TO DO "FALLEN"
WAS TO KIND OF HAVE JESSICA
HIT THAT OTHER LEVEL.
AND IT'S GREAT IF YOU CAN PU HER IN THIS GREAT MOVIE.
BUT IF THE SEX FALTERS,
THEN IT'S JUST A GREAT MOVIE
AND, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVEN'T DONE
WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO WITH
YOUR STARLET BY TAKING HER
WHAT HAPPENED?
NO ONE KNOWS FOR SURE.
THEY CALL IT THE BIG BURN.
AND ON THE EIGHTH DAY,
WHEN I THINK OF
A POST-APOCALYPTIC WORLD,
UH, IT'S MORE THAN
JUST BROKEN DOWN BUILDINGS.
THERE'S A PRIMAL ELEMENT TO I WHERE PEOPLE ARE STEALING FROM
EACH OTHER IN MORE WAYS THAN
ONE, AND LIFE BECOMES CHEAPER
BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH
MY CHARACTER WAS BASICALLY
BEING SEX TRAFFICKED
IN POST-APOCALYPTIC, UH--
I DON'T THINK IT WAS ACTUALLY
I MEAN, JUST POST-APOCALYPTIC
EARTH.
YOU A BUTCHER NOW, TOO?
SPECIAL COMMISSION
FOR THE PRINCE.
HE GETS FIRST LOOK
AT ALL MY TRADE.
"THE 8TH DAY" WAS CONCEIVED
BY ME WITH AMBER RAYNE IN MIND
AS THE LEAD CHARACTER.
SHE IS THE SCRUFFY TANK GIRL
IN THE WHOLE MOVIE.
BUT IT WAS PERCEIVED BY EVERYONE
THAT KAYDEN, BEING ADAM & EVE'S
CONTRACT GIRL, WAS THE STAR
OF THE SHOW.
AND SHE CERTAINLY WAS
THE BOX COVER, BUT SHE IS
THE SUPPORTING ACTRESS.
AND, UM, WHEN AWARDS TIME CAME
OUT, IT WAS THE OTHER WAY
AROUND.
AMBER GOT SUPPORTING ACTRESS
NOMINEE AND KAYDEN GET,
YOU KNOW, ACTRESS NOMINEE.
"THE 8TH DAY" WAS PROBABLY
THE HARDEST MOVIE I'VE EVER
WORKED ON.
THERE WERE SOME DAYS WHERE WE
HAD STARTED THE DAY BEFORE.
THERE WERE EXAMPLES IN THE MOVIE
OF, UM, LIKE A MARKETPLACE, LIKE
A BAZAAR THAT WE HAD TO BUILD
WHERE PEOPLE WERE HAWKING JUNK
OR THEY WERE HAWKING FOOD
OR CLOTHES, THINGS THA THEY'D SCAVENGED.
THAT WAS A HUGE UNDERTAKING
AS FAR AS ART DIRECTION
WAS CONCERNED.
THE ART DIRECTOR, KYLIE IRELAND,
SPENT WEEKS RUNNING AROUND L.A.
FINDING STUFF TO DO THERE.
MY FAVORITE KAYDEN MOMENT, UM,
IN THE WHOLE SHOW WAS WHEN
SHE'S SUPPOSED TO BREAK DOWN
AND CRY ABOUT HER DAD.
IT WAS BEFORE I LEARNED
HOW TO CRY BY MYSELF.
AND CAN'T GET ANY TEARS
TO FLOW AT ALL.
WE WAITED A GOOD LONG TIME,
AT LEAST A HALF AN HOUR.
I WALK BACK IN AND I SAID,
"YOU GOT NOTHING?"
SHE GOES, "NO, NOTHING BAD'S
EVER HAPPENED TO ME."
I THINK THEY SQUIRTED CITRUS
JUICE OR SOME SORT OF CITRUSY
FRUIT IN MY EYES TO MAKE IT GO.
SHE SAID, "HOLY SHIT, LET'S
SHOOT RIGHT NOW 'CAUSE GOD DAMN
IT, THIS BURNS."
AND I SAID, "PERFECT."
MY DAD DID THIS.
(CRYING)
ALL OF THIS.
AND SHE GOES, "WHY DID YOU DO
THAT TO ME?"
I SAID, "FUCK YOU, YOUR LIFE'S
PERFECT."
NO WONDER YOU CAN'T CRY.
IT WAS ONE OF THOSE THINGS
AFTER THE BLOOD, SWEAT, AND
TEARS THAT WENT INTO IT,
IT WAS REALLY A NICE PAYOFF.
IT WAS NICE TO BE ABLE TO SAY
SOMEONE ACKNOWLEDGED THIS.
IT WASN'T JUST US, YOU KNOW,
FUCKING AROUND IN THE DESERT.
'CAUSE THERE WERE TIMES WHEN I HOW DID MY FATHER DIE?
A YOUNG JEDI NAMED DARTH
VADER, WHO WAS A PUPIL OF MINE,
OFF AND LEFT HIM BURNING
IN A RIVER OF LAVA.
"STAR WARS" IS PROBABLY THE
AND THERE'S SO MUCH TO PARODY
IN IT, SO, UM...
WE REALLY DID-- WE REALLY DID,
THAT COULD BE HAD, EVERYTHING
SINGLE REFERENCE THAT WE COULD
HAVE, AND RECREATING A LO OF THE SCENES.
IT WAS REALLY A LOT OF FUN.
IT'S A LOT OF WORK,
BUT WE HAD A LOT OF FUN.
SHOOT FIRST, SHOOT OFTEN.
SORRY FOR THE MESS.
HAD TO KNOW "STAR WARS" TO ONE,
GET THE HUMOR.
TRYING TO GO WITH IT AND WHA WAS HAPPENING WITH STILL KIND OF
TRYING TO STICK TO THE ORIGINAL
SCRIPT.
THE THING THAT ALL THE FANS
WOULD ASK ME IN THE BEGINNING
WHEN I ANNOUNCE THE MOVIES,
LIKE, OKAY, THERE'S ONLY ONE
GIRL IN "STAR WARS."
YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A PORN MOVIE--
TO THIS DAY, PEOPLE WRITE ON
YOUTUBE, THEY WATCH, YOU KNOW,
THEY READ ABOUT IT LIKE THERE'S
GONNA BE ONLY ONE GIRL?
IT'S NOT TRUE, WE FOUND OTHER
GIRLS THAT ARE PART OF
THE "STAR WARS" UNIVERSE.
THE GIRLS IN THE CANTEEN,
I MEAN, THERE'S-- THERE'S
A TON OF PEOPLE THAT WE
WERE ABLE TO PUT TOGETHER,
IT'S WAS REALLY INTERESTING.
YOU CAN FIND SEX IN ANYTHING.
I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK THAT,
YOU KNOW, THE MOVIE OR THE THEME
HAS TO BE SEXY TO MAKE IT SEXY.
THAT'S OUR JOB,
THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE.
WE'RE SUPPOSED TO MAKE THE
THINGS THAT AREN'T SEXY SEXY.
DON'T ACT SO SURPRISED,
YOUR HIGHNESS.
I'M NOT SURPRISED.
I'M DISGUSTED.
WE SAT IN A ROOM AND HE TALKED
INTO A POT.
WE RECORDED ALL HIS SOUND IN A
GIANT POT, LIKE A SPAGHETTI POT.
IT WAS HILARIOUS.
EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE
I HAVE A GOOD IDEA.
AND IN "STAR WARS" IT WAS LIKE
CHI CHI LARUE.
I'M SAVED!
OVER HERE.
HEY, SAILOR!
C-3PO HAS ALWAYS BEEN VERY
METROSEXUAL, AND I FIGURE WE
TAKE IT, YOU KNOW, TO PARODY
THAT, TO EXPLORE THAT.
"STAR WARS" WON A TOTAL OF
EIGHT AWARDS AT AVN WHICH IS THE
MOST THAT ANY PARODY HAS EVER
WON, AND I THINK THAT'S AMAZING.
IT'S CRAZY, UM,
AND WHAT'S EVEN MORE AMAZING
ABOUT THAT IS MOST OF ALL THAT--
ALL THE WORK FOR THE MOVIE WAS
DONE BEHIND-THE-SCENES, WITHOU THE SETS, WITHOUT THE COSTUMES,
WITHOUT THE TIME AND DEDICATION
FOR THE SCRIPT.
THE SHOOTING, THE ANGLES,
THE GREEN SCREEN,
THE POST PRODUCTION.
THE MOVIE WOULD'VE BEEN NOTHING.
AND I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, THA REALLY SHOWS AND, YOU KNOW,
BY WINNING EIGHT AVN AWARDS,
IT DEFINITELY SHOWS THAT OTHER
PEOPLE APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD
MOST KNOW ME AS DEATH.
WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM ME?
I'VE COME FOR YOU.
THE BASIS BEHIND
"UNDERWORLD--" I PLAY
A CHARACTER NAMED TANYA,
AND I HAVE BEEN WITH MY FIANC
AND WE HAVE MADE THE SWEET LOVE,
TO DRIVE ME HOME,
WE'RE IN HIS PARKING GARAGE,
AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, WE'RE
VICTIMS OF A VIOLENT MUGGING.
SAY GOOD-BYE TO YOUR
BOYFRIEND.
NO, PLEASE!
THE OPENING IS, UH,
A BIT DRASTIC
AND A BIT BLOODY
AND VIOLENT, UH,
BUT WE ACTUALLY
WENT BACK AND FORTH ON
HOW VIOLENT TO MAKE IT.
AND THEY'RE TRYING TO SAVE MY
LIFE, I'M PUT UNDER ANESTHESIA.
AND WHEN I GO UNDER ANESTHESIA,
THE REST OF THE MOVIE IS THAT,
GOING BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN
ME FIGHTING FOR MY LIFE IN THE
OPERATING ROOM AND THE THINGS
THAT ARE HAPPENING TO ME
IN THE UNDERWORLD.
IF YOU REALLY WATCH THE
MOVIE, EVERYTHING PRETTY MUCH
IS-- HAS A MIRROR IMAGE WITH THE
PEOPLE IN THE OPERATING ROOM
AND THE UNDERWORLD BELOW.
EVERYTHING'S KIND OF TIED IN
AND EVERYTHING'S, UH, GO A YING AND A YANG SORT OF THING.
XANDER CORVUS PLAYS SLICE
AND HE WAS SORT OF, UH,
HE HAD SCALPEL FINGERS
AND HE WAS UP ON STILTS AND
SO HE WAS THE SCALPEL THA WAS STARTING THE SURGERY.
THIS JOURNEY THAT YOU'VE
EMBARKED UPON IS YOUR
SUBCONSCIOUS SELF REACTING
TO THE WORLD AROUND IT.
THE NURSE WAS PASSING
THE GAUZE TO THE DOCTOR.
DURING MY OPERATION IT FELL.
AND AS IT DROPPED, YOU SEE
AN AERIALIST FALL OUT OF THE SKY
SO ME AND JESSICA DRAKE GO TO HAVE SEX ON WATER, OR I LOOKED AS THOUGH IT WAS DIRECTLY
ON THE WATER, BUT IT WAS
WAS BUILT AND, UH, THERE WAS
MAYBE LIKE AN INCH OF WATER
ON TOP OF IT.
AND I'M BLOODY IN A SHALLOW
POOL OF WATER FOR LIKE
EIGHT HOURS THAT DAY.
WHEN THE INTIMIDATION MELTED
AWAY WAS WHEN SHE STUMBLED ON
A FEW OF HER LINES AND LAUGHED
AT HERSELF.
AND THEN YOU REALIZE, LIKE,
SOMEONE'S A HUMAN BEING,
AND THEY'RE A NORMAL PERSON
AND... THAT'S OKAY.
OH, I LOVE HAVING SEX
WITH ASA AKIRA.
RIGHT BEFORE THE SCENE, WE'RE
TAKING PRETTY GIRLS AND I'M
LIKE, "OH, THIS IS GONNA BE
REALLY FUN."
WE JUST SORT OF GOT ON EACH
OTHER AND ROLLED OFF THE SET.
WE DID IT EVERYWHERE.
LIKE, WE WERE JUST HAVING SEX,
SO, AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, YEAH,
I WOULD LIKE TO, UH,
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE
YOU WANT?
I MEAN, WHAT ELSE IS THERE
APART FROM LUXURY?
THAT CAN'T BE
A SERIOUS QUESTION.
AN INDIE PORNO,
THAT'S WHAT WE CALL IT.
IT'S-- IT'S LIKE A REAL MOVIE
WITH EMOTION AND ACTING
IT'S PORN WITH A REAL STORYLINE.
WHY DID YOU COME?
I CAN'T DO THIS AGAIN.
WHY DID YOU COME
AFTER FIVE FUCKING YEARS?
MY CHARACTER, HER NAME'S JACKY.
SHE'S THE BADASS.
SHE'S DEFINITELY THE BADASS
OF THE MOVIE AND SHE, UH,
IS TRYING TO OPEN
THE OTHER LILY UP TO THIS WORLD
MY ROLE IN "WASTELAND"
WAS VERY SIMPLE.
THERE'S TWO GIRLS AT THE BAR.
I SAY SOMETHING IN THEIR EARS
WHICH IS EASY FOR ME.
TAKE HER UP TO THE BATHROOM
AND HAVE SEX WITH LILY LABEAU
IN THE BATHROOM.
IT'S A VERY, VERY CLOSED
ENVIRONMENT, IT'S LITERALLY
REAL TOILET SO THERE WAS NO ROOM
TO OPEN THE DOOR, SHOOT, LIKE,
THROUGH THE OPEN DOOR.
THEY SHOT IT ALL FROM ABOVE.
I THINK HE KNEW THAT THE BES WAY TO USE ME IS NOT TO HAVE ME
SPEAK BUT LET ME JUST FUCK.
I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE
BIGGEST THINGS THAT SEPARATES
"WASTELAND" FROM A LOT OF
THE OTHER PORN IS THAT THE SHOTS
ARE SO BEAUTIFUL
AND THEY ARE THOUGHT OUT.
EVERY SINGLE SHOT IS THOUGHT OU AND PLANNED TO JUST--
IT WAS REALLY, REALLY DARK,
UM, WHERE WE SHOT THAT SCENE,
FOR ME BECAUSE I'VE NEVER SHO ANYTHING IN SUCH DARK LIGHTING.
IT WAS JUST COMPLETELY DARK.
I WAS LIKE, "REALLY, LIKE, CAN
YOU GUYS REALLY SEE
WHAT WE'RE SHOOTING?"
THEY'RE LIKE,
"YEAH, YEAH, IT LOOKS COOL."
IT'S THIS WHOLE STORY
COMBINING TO MAKE THIS BEAUTIFUL
JUDGMENT HAD REARED
ITS UGLY HEAD.
AND RIGHT WHEN MY GUARD
WAS FULLY DOWN,
IT SUDDENLY HAD POPPED BACK UP.
EMMA GOES INTO INTERVIEW
A MAN BY THE NAME OF
WILLIAM FITZGERALD WHO IS THIS
VERY PROMINENT BUSINESSMAN WHO
EMPLOYS PREDOMINANTLY FEMALES.
THERE'S AN UNSPOKEN ATTRACTION
PROPOSITIONS HER FOR
THE ROLE OF BEING HIS SUB.
SHE'S NOT A VERY SEXUAL PERSON.
SHE DEFINITELY DOESN'T CONFORM
TO NORMAL SOCIETY'S VIEWS
I DIDN'T READ THE "50 SHADES
OF GREY" BOOK OR ANYTHING LIKE
THAT BECAUSE I REMEMBER JACKY
WE WANNA DO PRETTY MUCH
THE OPPOSITE OF THAT.
I READ "50 SHADES OF GREY"
AND I HATED HOW THE FEMALE
PROTAGONIST WAS PORTRAYED.
SHE WAS INCREDIBLY WEAK AND HER
ENTIRE MOTIVATION WAS TO PLEASE
A MAN AND TO MAKE A MAN HAPPY.
I WANTED TO SET ABOUT WRITING
A BDSM STORY THAT REALLY
EXPLORED A STRONG WOMAN'S
SUB ROLE AND HOW THAT CAN BE
SO EMPOWERING FOR HER.
SHE WAS, UM, LIVING, LIKE,
A KIND OF RESERVED LIFE
AND NOT REALLY BEING HERSELF,
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I CAN
VERY MUCH RELATE TO BECAUSE
I ALWAYS WANTED TO JUST, LIKE,
BE THE PERSON THAT EVERYONE
WANTED ME TO BE.
BDSM IS NOT JUST BEATING
SOMEBODY AND HARMING SOMEBODY
AND PHYSICALLY HURTING THEM.
IT'S SO MUCH ABOUT THE MENTAL
ASPECT OF THOSE RELATIONSHIPS.
SO FOR ME, I WANTED TO TELL
A STORY ABOUT THAT.
I DID FEEL LIKE, UH, I HAD
A LITTLE BIT OF AN ADVANTAGE
JOINING THE MOVIE BECAUSE I HAD
SOME BDSM EXPERIENCE WORKING
WITH DIFFERENT BONDAGE COMPANIES
IN THE INDUSTRY.
SO IT WAS NICE TO BE ABLE TO
BRING IN A LITTLE BIT OF
MY KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE
WITH THAT FOR A MOVIE THA SO MUCH, LIKE, REVOLVES AROUND
THE BDSM COMMUNITY.
SO "THE SUBMISSION OF
EMMA MARX" WON BEST BDSM MOVIE
AT AVN.
AND I WAS COMPLETELY FLOORED
BECAUSE WE'RE UP AGAINS BDSM COMPANIES.
AND NEW SENSATIONS MAINLY IS
A FEATURE GONZO STUDIO
THAT DOESN'T REALLY FOCUS ON
ANYTHING PARTICULARLY HARDCORE.
I WAS REALLY FLATTERED THA THEY WOULD RECOGNIZE THAT FILM,
ESPECIALLY GIVEN THAT IT WASN' REALLY THE PHYSICALITY
THAT WAS EXPLORED.
IT WAS THE MENTAL ASPECT.
WHEN I FIRST STARTED,
WE WERE DOING FILM,
IT WAS A THRILL.
IT WAS GREAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE
LUGGING THESE BIG ASS CAMERAS
AROUND SAN FRANCISCO
AND HAVING A FIELD DAY.
NOBODY BOTHERED US, NOBODY
CARED, YOU JUST DID THE MOVIES.
AND THE DRUGS WERE GREAT.
AND VIDEO CAME OUT AND IT WAS--
IT WAS A SMALLER PARTY.
YOU DIDN'T NEED THE CREW
YOU HAD FOR 35 MILLIMETER.
YOU HAD WAY SMALLER CREW, AND
YOU WOULD JUST SORT OF LOAD I IN A VAN, SHOW UP AT A LOCATION,
SHOT YOUR FOUR OR FIVE SCENES
AND RAN OUT THE DOOR,
YOU WERE DONE.
AND THE DRUGS WERE OKAY.
AND-- AND TOWARD THE END,
IT REALLY JUST GOT, "HOW FAS CAN YOU CRANK IT OUT AND GET I BACK TO ME AND I GOTTA PEDAL
IT..." AND THE DRUGS SUCKED.
IT'S HARD TO SAY WHERE THE
PORN INDUSTRY WILL GO FROM HERE.
THE INTERNET ERA SEEMS TO DEMAND
A RETURN TO THE LOOPS AND
VIGNETTES THAT GAVE BIRTH TO THE
EROTIC FILM IN THE FIRST PLACE.
IT'S A SHAME TO THINK THAT THIS
LIST OF THE GREATEST ADUL MOVIES MAYBE THE LAS OF ITS KIND.
BUT THE FUTURE IS HARD TO SEE.
AND MAYBE THE ADULT FEATURE WILL
SURPRISE US WITH ITS LONGEVITY.
I'M CHANEL PRESTON, GOOD NIGHT.
IF THE BRILLIANT SWEDISH
FILMMAKER INGMAR BERGMAN EVER
MADE AN X-RATED MOTION PICTURE,
IT WOULD LOOK EXACTLY LIKE THIS.
"PRISONER OF PARADISE" STARS
SUCH FILM GREATS AS SEKA.
(LAUGHING)
FIBBER.
AMERICAN, I SAID OVER HERE!
FUCK ME!
AMERICAN GIRLS ARE LOVELY
CREATURES.
ILSA, TIE HER UP!
DON'T YOU COME IN ME,
YOU AMERICAN SWINE.
YOU'D NEVER GUESS WHAT THESE
SEXY YOUNG LADIES IN THE
FUNNY-LOOKING UNIFORMS
DO FOR A LIVING.
GARAGE GIRLS, GOOD MORNING.
WATCH AS THESE GORGEOUS
GARAGE GIRLS MIX BUSINESS
AND PLEASURE AS THEY CLIMB
THEIR WAY TO THE TOP.
HERE SHE COMES,
THE INCREDIBLE, VOLUPTUOUS
LESLIE BOVEE IN HER MOS ELECTRIFYING ROLE AS
"THE SENATOR'S DAUGHTER."
CO-STARRING THE FABULOUS
JOHN HOLMES.
YOU ARE AN EROTIC
FILM STAR NOW LACKING
AN ESSENTIAL MEMBER,
BUT WE CAN REBUILD IT.
"THE SENATOR'S DAUGHTER"
COMING TO THIS THEATER SOON.
(MAN LAUGHING)
I'M STILL SORE HERE FROM WHA THE DEVIL DID TO ME.
HE EVEN MADE IT TALK.
IN THIS CASE, CURIOSITY
DIDN'T KILL THE CAT.
DO YOU WANT TO FIND OU WHAT LOVE IS ALL ABOUT?
HONEY, I'M ALMOST READY.
I'M GETTING READY.
DON'T MISS
"HERE COMES THE BRIDE."
COMING SOON TO THIS THEATER,
"THE PLEASURE PALACE."
THE NEWEST X-RATED FILM
FROM CARTER STEVENS.
THE MAN WHO GAVE YOU SUCH FILMS
AS "LICKITY-SPLIT", "THE LOVE
COUCH," AND "TEENAGE TWINS."
SUZIE SUPERSTAR.
BABY TAKE OFF
YOUR CLOTHES
MAKE LOVE TO ME
GOD DAMN IT, YOU KNOW HOW
HORNY I GET WHEN I SING.
FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN
TWO SEXY 16-YEAR-OLD GIRLS
TAKE THEIR PARENTS CAR
AND GO AWAY FOR THE WEEKEND.
THIS IS EXCITING.
I'VE NEVER BEEN TO AN ORGY
BEFORE.
NEITHER HAVE I.
WHAT'S AN ORGY?
"NAKED AFTERNOON" IS MORE
THAN EXPLICIT DRAMA.
IT IS THE REAL STORY OF
A GENUINE HONEST-TO-GOD
WOMAN-CHILD.
HOLLYWOOD IN THE 30s
IN A BIG, BRIGHT, AND BUBBLING
BLOCKBUSTER OF A MOVIE.
YOU'VE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE
"PINK CHAMPAGNE."
YOU GOTTA SEE IT TO BELIEVE IT.